CLA and even C4 pre work out
jakeziskin1
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Has anyone ever used CLA in capsule form?
Does it really
Fuel energy and fat metabolism
Maintain lean muscle mass
Improve body composition
Has anyone ever used C4 pre - workout
Explosive energy with creative nitrate. What exactly does a pre work out do?
Would these be good supplements with working out. I want to be safe, these were recommended by a man from GNC Thanks!
Does it really
Fuel energy and fat metabolism
Maintain lean muscle mass
Improve body composition
Has anyone ever used C4 pre - workout
Explosive energy with creative nitrate. What exactly does a pre work out do?
Would these be good supplements with working out. I want to be safe, these were recommended by a man from GNC Thanks!
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The people at GNC are required to try to "up sell" you. Meaning they have to try to sell something to you, especially GNC brand products.
CLA: human studies on CLA are very unreliable, often with large doses and the control group was rarely given the same dietary guidelines as the test group.
C4 encourages blood flow to the muscles and gives energy. You can get the same effects from caffeine and a bit of food before working out.0 -
The people at GNC are required to try to "up sell" you. Meaning they have to try to sell something to you, especially GNC brand products.
CLA: human studies on CLA are very unreliable, often with large doses and the control group was rarely given the same dietary guidelines as the test group.
C4 encourages blood flow to the muscles and gives energy. You can get the same effects from caffeine and a bit of food before working out.
So I guess these are worthless investments lol0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »The people at GNC are required to try to "up sell" you. Meaning they have to try to sell something to you, especially GNC brand products.
CLA: human studies on CLA are very unreliable, often with large doses and the control group was rarely given the same dietary guidelines as the test group.
C4 encourages blood flow to the muscles and gives energy. You can get the same effects from caffeine and a bit of food before working out.
So I guess these are worthless investments lol
Many people enjoy C4, so I wouldn't say it's worthless. I personally don't like it. It contains beta-alanine and it causes me to be so itchy that I can't focus.
CLA MIGHT provide a tiny bit of benefit, but you have to be on top of diet and exercise anyway if it does happen to work.0 -
I take c4 and I love it. I feel much more motivated while I'm at the gym and I feel as if I can lift more0
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I take or have used both.
I take CLA daily but notice no effect. That doesn't mean there is none, but I pay attention to that kind of thing and it's imperceptible to me. I haven't always taken it, but got some to sample and have been taking it daily for several months now. I wouldn't pay for it as I see no real benefit from it. Progression is as expected without, so take it or leave it.
C4 was my entry level preworkout. I've moved beyond that as my tolerance grew and i needed something a bit stronger. That is the most consistent thing I've seen with any preworkout... use increases tolerance which can lead to a perceived dependence or "inablilty" to lift without. I don't think pre is needed, but it's nice for those that like that... but minus beta alanine, it's nothing a cup of coffee won't get you, either and that's much cheaper. Beta Alanine has not held up well under the tests that I've read and is mostly used for the tingling sensation that leads to one thinking the preworkout is kicking in/working.
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I've been using C4 for a while now. Running, lifting, yard work.0
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I take C4 sometimes. It's mild. I like a pre-workout.0
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »The people at GNC are required to try to "up sell" you. Meaning they have to try to sell something to you, especially GNC brand products.
CLA: human studies on CLA are very unreliable, often with large doses and the control group was rarely given the same dietary guidelines as the test group.
C4 encourages blood flow to the muscles and gives energy. You can get the same effects from caffeine and a bit of food before working out.
So I guess these are worthless investments lol
Many people enjoy C4, so I wouldn't say it's worthless. I personally don't like it. It contains beta-alanine and it causes me to be so itchy that I can't focus.
CLA MIGHT provide a tiny bit of benefit, but you have to be on top of diet and exercise anyway if it does happen to work.
I 100% agree on the c4. I absolutely hate the beta alanine affect on me. I get itchy almost like my face & neck are on fire.
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The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.0
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In regards to all your posts on C4. All I feel to is a tingle in my face. What is C4 suppose to do, also are there any stronger better pre work outs. I don't feel a pump, I don't feel I can lift more or stay longer, pre work out or not I stay the same it seems?0
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Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
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Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
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The thing with c4 is you can use more or less depending on your results. If I use a full scoop my face and ears will itch so I only use half a scoop. My husband on the other hand will use a full scoop, and I have a friend that uses a scoop and a half. It definitely gives me a boost for cardio days. I also drink bcaa during my workouts so I don't get fatigued. Everyone is different and you have to find what works for you.1
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jamacianredhair wrote: »The thing with c4 is you can use more or less depending on your results. If I use a full scoop my face and ears will itch so I only use half a scoop. My husband on the other hand will use a full scoop, and I have a friend that uses a scoop and a half. It definitely gives me a boost for cardio days. I also drink bcaa during my workouts so I don't get fatigued. Everyone is different and you have to find what works for you.
I feel nothing but tingles even after 2 scoops. Seems like a waste of money for a hot itchy face lol0 -
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »The people at GNC are required to try to "up sell" you. Meaning they have to try to sell something to you, especially GNC brand products.
CLA: human studies on CLA are very unreliable, often with large doses and the control group was rarely given the same dietary guidelines as the test group.
C4 encourages blood flow to the muscles and gives energy. You can get the same effects from caffeine and a bit of food before working out.
So I guess these are worthless investments lol
Many people enjoy C4, so I wouldn't say it's worthless. I personally don't like it. It contains beta-alanine and it causes me to be so itchy that I can't focus.
CLA MIGHT provide a tiny bit of benefit, but you have to be on top of diet and exercise anyway if it does happen to work.
Interesting. I've used beta alanine to the point that I no longer get the tingling sensation from it, and I kind of enjoyed it.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jamacianredhair wrote: »The thing with c4 is you can use more or less depending on your results. If I use a full scoop my face and ears will itch so I only use half a scoop. My husband on the other hand will use a full scoop, and I have a friend that uses a scoop and a half. It definitely gives me a boost for cardio days. I also drink bcaa during my workouts so I don't get fatigued. Everyone is different and you have to find what works for you.
I feel nothing but tingles even after 2 scoops. Seems like a waste of money for a hot itchy face lol
How about caffeine pills and some carbs? There's no real need to take something.0 -
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Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »jamacianredhair wrote: »The thing with c4 is you can use more or less depending on your results. If I use a full scoop my face and ears will itch so I only use half a scoop. My husband on the other hand will use a full scoop, and I have a friend that uses a scoop and a half. It definitely gives me a boost for cardio days. I also drink bcaa during my workouts so I don't get fatigued. Everyone is different and you have to find what works for you.
I feel nothing but tingles even after 2 scoops. Seems like a waste of money for a hot itchy face lol
How about caffeine pills and some carbs? There's no real need to take something.
I don't need caffeine. I'm already worked as it is. I don't drink coffee0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Creatine is about the only thing that is going to help and that help is minimal. It's time for you to invest in a high quality trainer.0 -
BTW, the "itchy" feeling from the product is due to the NIACIN in it and not the Beta Alanine.
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Any suggestions on something to help bulk me up.0 -
BTW, the "itchy" feeling from the product is due to the NIACIN in it and not the Beta Alanine.
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I'm not niacin sensitive and products with beta-alanine but no niacin still make me itchy.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Creatine is about the only thing that is going to help and that help is minimal. It's time for you to invest in a high quality trainer.
I'm not interested in wast wing money on a trainer.
I have a best friend who's a food and fitness instructor and her boyfriend is a personal trainer. Aside from that I've taken weight training in high school and college, wrestled, played baseball, basket ball and football, so I know plenty of work outs and routines. My problem is my body and the wear and tear it has taken. I'm looking for aomething to help give me that boost. Creatine isn't great, I've tried it and think it's ok, just bloats me with water, I want muscle not water lol0 -
BTW, the "itchy" feeling from the product is due to the NIACIN in it and not the Beta Alanine.
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What do you suggest to take?0 -
If you have a shoulder injury, then IMO you shouldn't be bench pressing. Flat bench pressing isn't great for the shoulders which is why many heavy benchers HAVE shoulder issues.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Redefine your goals: are you just trying to lift heavy weights for ego? Are you trying to improve your physique? Are you trying to improve your strength? If it's strength, then opt for exercisers that strengthen without compromising an injury.
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If you have a shoulder injury, then IMO you shouldn't be bench pressing. Flat bench pressing isn't great for the shoulders which is why many heavy benchers HAVE shoulder issues.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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IDEA Fitness member
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I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Redefine your goals: are you just trying to lift heavy weights for ego? Are you trying to improve your physique? Are you trying to improve your strength? If it's strength, then opt for exercisers that strengthen without compromising an injury.
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I had surgery over two years ago. I went down to benching 100lbs now I can do 3 sets of 10 of 135lb on my chest days, I've even got one set of 10 of 145! I know it takes time. I recently returned to the gym last February. It's not a big jump but I went from 100lbs to 135lbs on the bench and I feel I'm getting stronger. My should clicks and pops but nothing I can't handle. It would be nice if there was anything I could use to help me focus, feel more testosterone and get a pump for a better maybe alil harder work out.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Creatine is about the only thing that is going to help and that help is minimal. It's time for you to invest in a high quality trainer.
I'm not interested in wast wing money on a trainer.
I have a best friend who's a food and fitness instructor and her boyfriend is a personal trainer. Aside from that I've taken weight training in high school and college, wrestled, played baseball, basket ball and football, so I know plenty of work outs and routines. My problem is my body and the wear and tear it has taken. I'm looking for aomething to help give me that boost. Creatine isn't great, I've tried it and think it's ok, just bloats me with water, I want muscle not water lol
My trainer has been far from a waste. Investing in training has done more for me than any supplement will ever do. Personalized instruction can help recovery and help you build muscle. You can keep throwing money at supplements in hopes that they will be a band-aid solution or you can fix the problem with one on one training.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Creatine is about the only thing that is going to help and that help is minimal. It's time for you to invest in a high quality trainer.
I'm not interested in wast wing money on a trainer.
I have a best friend who's a food and fitness instructor and her boyfriend is a personal trainer. Aside from that I've taken weight training in high school and college, wrestled, played baseball, basket ball and football, so I know plenty of work outs and routines. My problem is my body and the wear and tear it has taken. I'm looking for aomething to help give me that boost. Creatine isn't great, I've tried it and think it's ok, just bloats me with water, I want muscle not water lol
My trainer has been far from a waste. Investing in training has done more for me than any supplement will ever do. Personalized instruction can help recovery and help you build muscle. You can keep throwing money at supplements in hopes that they will be a band-aid solution or you can fix the problem with one on one training.
Did you read my post?
I already have a trainer and food and nutrition specialist. Throwing money away on supplements? There's a reason so many guys take supplements at the gym, it's so they get bigger. I think I'd have much more help from body building men, I'm not new to the gym in anyway so I don't need training advice, thank but it's not the help I'm looking to get0
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