I hate that fruit has so many carbs
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I love those little clemetines and will have 2-3 a day. It beats any processed food i would normally reach for. Yes they have carbs but, i like to look at the nutritional value first. Pre diabetes can become a problem but also getting your weight in a nice range can also reverse that. Get some fitness, eat healthy whole foods as often as possable .0
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Those carbs you eat are good for the brain and the vitamin C they contain are good for everything. Don't eat a bog but 2 a day is not bad. The best thing to do for pre-diabetes as has been said is lose weight and exercise. If my patients only ate an extra cutie I would do back flips. I am a nurse.0
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fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm pre diabetic so I need to watch my carb intake.
Me too. I miss having oranges! Sometimes I will sneak a segment or two when I'm peeling one for my daughter. A handful of blueberries or blackberries is ok if you can fit it in your macros!
Cauliflower is low carb and actually has more vitamin C than oranges.0 -
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Don't worry, op, you are not the only one who is prediabetic and watching carbs, even in fruits. I follow my doctor's recommendation too and hope for much better bloodwork when I go back in August. And BTW, I am not obese but I am overweight by about 25 pounds. I don't want to have full blown diabetes like my grandmother did, so I'm taking it seriously now. Good for you for being conscientious.
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fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »mommarnurse wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm pre diabetic so I need to watch my carb intake.
No, you need to be at a healthy weight and regular exercise period.
Studies show that preventing DM (and helping those who already have it) should be focused on acheiving/maintaining lean body (so obviously a healthy fat % - abdominal fat is the biggest risk factor - excess of this makes insulin less useful in the body) and regular exercise - a combo of cardio and strength which makes insulin more useful in the body.
I tend not to tell people who have medical conditions that they are wrong because that really should be left up to their doctor since everyone has different circumstances.
Good for you OP.. that was dangerous advice..
Anyone that is diabetic or pre-diabetic knows to limit their carbs and sugars, it's not enough to exercise and be a healthy weight.0 -
The US prediabetes stats are misleading.
First, we lowered the threshold for the diagnosis (there's no hard and fast definition), so that someone with a particular test result would not be prediabetic in the UK, but would be diagnosed as such here.
Second, I'm deeply skeptical of the 9 in 10 of those who have it are undiagnosed (which is an easy way to inflate the numbers). It's based on the assumption that there's a huge number of undiagnosed and that untested people would have similar results to tested people. But that ignores the fact that typically people who are overweight/obese get tested, those who are not, aren't tested (unless there is some other risk factor).
I've been tested when obese, and had no issues. I am not normally tested now that I am normal weight (and wasn't in the past when normal weight). I have no reason to think I might be undiagnosed pre-diabetic just because my doctor did not test me. (Similarly, there are lots of other things I have not been tested for, just like people under a particular age don't have to get mammograms -- it's about risk factors.)0 -
I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.0 -
Wow, there is a lot of bad advice here from people who have no clue about how insulin resistance works.
OP, try to consume fewer tropical and citrus fruits and more berries and cherries. You get a lot more fruit for your carb budget that way, plus a lot more fiber.
I need to be between 75-100G/day myself...which works out to be 1-2 servings of fruit per day. That is a hard-and-fast limit for me, but I make up for it by eating lots of non-starchy vegetables.0 -
fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.0 -
fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »
You are reading way too much into my post. No where did I say my dr told me not to eat fruit nor am I stressing about eating it. I was simply pointing out that I think it's interesting that fruit which is "healthy" has just as many carbs as something branded "not healthy" with added sugar. Relax, it was just my opinion and observation!
Foods are not healthy or not healthy based on the number of carbs they contain.0 -
SherryTeach wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »
You are reading way too much into my post. No where did I say my dr told me not to eat fruit nor am I stressing about eating it. I was simply pointing out that I think it's interesting that fruit which is "healthy" has just as many carbs as something branded "not healthy" with added sugar. Relax, it was just my opinion and observation!
Foods are not healthy or not healthy based on the number of carbs they contain.
They can be if you are prediabetic, diabetic, have PCOS, NAFLD, dementia, or CAD.0 -
SherryTeach wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »
You are reading way too much into my post. No where did I say my dr told me not to eat fruit nor am I stressing about eating it. I was simply pointing out that I think it's interesting that fruit which is "healthy" has just as many carbs as something branded "not healthy" with added sugar. Relax, it was just my opinion and observation!
Foods are not healthy or not healthy based on the number of carbs they contain.
They can be if you are prediabetic, diabetic, have PCOS, NAFLD, dementia, or CAD.
Yep. Which is why I'm always prattling on about the "one size fits all" mentality. We are not all cookie cutter robots who respond to the same ingredients/foods exactly the same as each other.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.
That was kind of a rude thing to say but everything in moderation right!?
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kshama2001 wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.
... Um. Okay.
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FYI, as much as I love blueberries, they are a much higher sugar per serving choice than blackberries or raspberries. Just saying. Personally, I also like tart cherries.
OP, you could also try riced cauliflower. It cauliflower chopped up fine. It works great as a substitute for higher carb/calorie foods if you're looking for volume that has some nutritional value. I love the stuff.0 -
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PlantBasedKnight wrote: »Carbs are bad because people need education.
Carbs heal diabetes, FAT causes diabetes
Fat does not cause diabetes. Being fat can cause diabetes. Fat is the one macro that does not raise my insulin and blood glucose.0 -
Yes, it is really annoying! (almost as annoying as the people telling those with medical conditions they are wrong!)
Berries are my fruit of choice. Getting in exercise after meals is helpful for me when trying to get blood sugar numbers down. I've had T2 diabetes for 14 years and it gets worse with age. Insulin sucks, so definitely stay focused on not getting it!
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fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.
That was kind of a rude thing to say but everything in moderation right!?
/shrug/ Wasn't meant to be an attack. You said you have to make up for the clementine carbs elsewhere in the day. Would be easier without the 56 g of carbs from deep dish pizza. Or you could just skip the goldfish crackers.
Pizza in moderation for me is once per month. Pizza is one of the reasons I'm overweight. Fruit is not.0 -
niamibunni wrote: »Yes, it is really annoying! (almost as annoying as the people telling those with medical conditions they are wrong!)
Berries are my fruit of choice. Getting in exercise after meals is helpful for me when trying to get blood sugar numbers down. I've had T2 diabetes for 14 years and it gets worse with age. Insulin sucks, so definitely stay focused on not getting it!
I need to make more of an effort to exercise. Never gave much thought to doing it after meals but even a brief walk may be helpful. Thanks for the tip!0 -
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PlantBasedKnight wrote: »PlantBasedKnight wrote: »Carbs are bad because people need education.
Carbs heal diabetes, FAT causes diabetes
Fat does not cause diabetes. Being fat can cause diabetes. Fat is the one macro that does not raise my insulin and blood glucose.
True, you forgot to mention that fat makes you fat, the fat you eat is the fat you wear. Fat as macro is guaranteed in the right amounts that human needs when consumed as a part of the whole-plants package. Not as cookies, fried chips, bacon, oil, butter, margarine, lard etc...
Sorry, but that is pure BS! Excess calories make people fat, plain and simple! And that sentence is eerily familiar...
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PlantBasedKnight wrote: »PlantBasedKnight wrote: »Carbs are bad because people need education.
Carbs heal diabetes, FAT causes diabetes
Fat does not cause diabetes. Being fat can cause diabetes. Fat is the one macro that does not raise my insulin and blood glucose.
True, you forgot to mention that fat makes you fat, the fat you eat is the fat you wear. Fat as macro is guaranteed in the right amounts that human needs when consumed as a part of the whole-plants package. Not as cookies, fried chips, bacon, oil, butter, margarine, lard etc...
I think eating too much makes you fat. Some might eat too much fat but hat wasn't my issue. I ate too much sugar. I now eat 75% of my calories (a total of 1500kcal-2000kal) as fat. Coconut oil, cream, butter, and bacon... I lost 40 lbs in about 4 months eating lots of fat. The fat I eat looks very good on me.
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kshama2001 wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.
^This. I know it sounds rude, but when you are stressing over fruit and eat pizza and goldfish, something is wrong in how you approach this. Nothing wrong with pizza btw, but there is no dr ever who told an obese prediabetic patient to limit clementines so there is room for pizza.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.
^This. I know it sounds rude, but when you are stressing over fruit and eat pizza and goldfish, something is wrong in how you approach this. Nothing wrong with pizza btw, but there is no dr ever who told an obese prediabetic patient to limit clementines so there is room for pizza.
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kshama2001 wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.
^This. I know it sounds rude, but when you are stressing over fruit and eat pizza and goldfish, something is wrong in how you approach this. Nothing wrong with pizza btw, but there is no dr ever who told an obese prediabetic patient to limit clementines so there is room for pizza.
The lack of reading comprehension on this site is truly disturbing. No where did I ever say I was stressing about eating a piece of fruit. I was simply pointing out an observation that fruit had just as many carbs as some things with added sugar. The beauty of this plan is that I can eat the pizza and the goldfish and the clementines and still stay under my carb goal. It's all about portion control. Perhaps you should spend more time focusing on your own diet instead of tearing apart mine just because I have the nerve to post an open food diary.
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fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »fastfoodietofitcutie wrote: »I'm trying to stay under 150 grams of carbs a day which I know is not a "low carb" diet but for me it is moderate carbs. If I want to have a tangerine (or two) I have them but then I know I have to make up for it somewhere in the rest of my day. I try as much as possible to pre log what I am going to eat for the day or at least have a good idea in my mind as to what I am eating so I can make the appropriate adjustments. So far so good, I just need to stick with it long term!
The pre diabetes CDC information is very interesting. I can't speak to it's accuracy but everyone should be eating healthy and be active pre diabetic or not.
If I were pre-diabetic, I'd be looking at the deep dish pizza before the clementines.
^This. I know it sounds rude, but when you are stressing over fruit and eat pizza and goldfish, something is wrong in how you approach this. Nothing wrong with pizza btw, but there is no dr ever who told an obese prediabetic patient to limit clementines so there is room for pizza.
The lack of reading comprehension on this site is truly disturbing. No where did I ever say I was stressing about eating a piece of fruit. I was simply pointing out an observation that fruit had just as many carbs as some things with added sugar. The beauty of this plan is that I can eat the pizza and the goldfish and the clementines and still stay under my carb goal. It's all about portion control. Perhaps you should spend more time focusing on your own diet instead of tearing apart mine just because I have the nerve to post an open food diary.
I am not trying to tear your diet apart. The opposite: I am trying to tell you you are overanalysing this. You can fit the pizza and the fruit. And not think twice about it.0 -
PlantBasedKnight wrote: »PlantBasedKnight wrote: »Carbs are bad because people need education.
Carbs heal diabetes, FAT causes diabetes
Fat does not cause diabetes. Being fat can cause diabetes. Fat is the one macro that does not raise my insulin and blood glucose.
True, you forgot to mention that fat makes you fat, the fat you eat is the fat you wear. Fat as macro is guaranteed in the right amounts that human needs when consumed as a part of the whole-plants package. Not as cookies, fried chips, bacon, oil, butter, margarine, lard etc...
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Huh?
Do you truly believe your body cares about the name of the food in which the fat is ingested?0
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