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Blood Type Diet- Is it for real or is it more diet hokum?

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  • tomteboda
    tomteboda Posts: 2,171 Member
    @lemurcat12 B+ here. I should go around telling everyone that I like lamb because I'm secretly part Dothraki now.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    I have told this story here before. I was at a conference a few years back. One of the guest speakers was a naturaopathy doctor. She told the story of how she found this diet, it made so much sense, so she tried it out. Her blood type told her to eat a vegetarian type diet, avoid red meat, etc. She followed it and felt amazing. Her skin glowed, she dropped weight, people complimented her.
    Then during a conversation with her mother, she learned she was mistaken about her blood type. She was supposed to be eating the opposite diet, high in meat, etc.

    @3dogsrunning that was funny but epigenetics (the placebo effect) can give results like that per new research.

    blog.mindvalleyacademy.com/alternative-healing/scientist-show-subconscious-thoughts-can-cause-specific-molecular-changes-genes?utm_source=cm-blog&utm_medium=facebook-share&utm_campaign=mvablog-share
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    I have told this story here before. I was at a conference a few years back. One of the guest speakers was a naturaopathy doctor. She told the story of how she found this diet, it made so much sense, so she tried it out. Her blood type told her to eat a vegetarian type diet, avoid red meat, etc. She followed it and felt amazing. Her skin glowed, she dropped weight, people complimented her.
    Then during a conversation with her mother, she learned she was mistaken about her blood type. She was supposed to be eating the opposite diet, high in meat, etc.

    @3dogsrunning that was funny but epigenetics (the placebo effect) can give results like that per new research.

    blog.mindvalleyacademy.com/alternative-healing/scientist-show-subconscious-thoughts-can-cause-specific-molecular-changes-genes?utm_source=cm-blog&utm_medium=facebook-share&utm_campaign=mvablog-share

    Epigenetics, the placebo effect? What? Neither epigentics nor placebo effect is going to influence your blood type.
    Epigenetics isn't the placebo effect, and most placebo effects aren't working through epigenetics.
    I'm afraid of quantum woo and crystal vibrations if I open that link.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    Haha. I'm a+ and have had many blood transfusions a few being type o. So should I follow both a and o ;)
  • viren19890
    viren19890 Posts: 778 Member
    I don't know about weight loss but some people have certain foods that suit to them and some don't. I know I am new here and don't have any hard evidence but I've seen real life examples. Not blood related diet but a different diet than what their grandparents/parents were eating.

    In my relatives- I've had family members who's grandparents/parents were vegetarians and the kids were non-vegetarians and suffered from health problems (not weight).

    I've also come in contact with people who after eating certain kind of food claim that they feel like *kitten* or bloated and once they are off that specific food or avoid it-all is well.

    It is said that if your family line has never consumed meat and one generation starts consuming - it could have an affect on health (Don't know how true it is) since genes/immune is different in structure especially consuming plant based and then meat consumption.

    The most recent example I have is - one of my friend- she was average weight (not over weight) she had acne. She went of fried foods completely unless it's home-cooked and used coconut virgin oil. Her acne started to clear off. (I don't know what that was because only one factor changed. Maybe divine intervention? lol)

    Also, I'm a believer of -the type of food that goes in our body -really does affect our body.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    I have told this story here before. I was at a conference a few years back. One of the guest speakers was a naturaopathy doctor. She told the story of how she found this diet, it made so much sense, so she tried it out. Her blood type told her to eat a vegetarian type diet, avoid red meat, etc. She followed it and felt amazing. Her skin glowed, she dropped weight, people complimented her.
    Then during a conversation with her mother, she learned she was mistaken about her blood type. She was supposed to be eating the opposite diet, high in meat, etc.

    @3dogsrunning that was funny but epigenetics (the placebo effect) can give results like that per new research.

    Epigenetics has nothing to do with the placebo effect

    And that "article" has nothing to do with either.

  • sarahkanzalone
    sarahkanzalone Posts: 192 Member
    Looked it up for fun I'm AB+.... I enjoyed how often they told me I was "rare" but felt like they got lazy and combined random sections of A and B (a few O "qualities") were thrown in there for good measure I.e. I have A's low stomach acid making it difficult to digest meat BUT ALSO have B's adaptation for that

    Think the diet is likely junk but gave me a few entertaining moments on Google

    The only thing I agreed with was its recommendation to avoid American Cheese because really that stuff is just weird
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    tomteboda wrote: »
    @lemurcat12 B+ here. I should go around telling everyone that I like lamb because I'm secretly part Dothraki now.

    I think we should!
  • dulcitonia
    dulcitonia Posts: 278 Member
    I was so confused about dothraki... I had to google.
    :)
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    dulcitonia wrote: »
    I was so confused about dothraki... I had to google.
    :)

    aBKzv9A_700b.jpg

    All you need to know about Dothraki. <3
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    dulcitonia wrote: »
    I was so confused about dothraki... I had to google.
    :)

    aBKzv9A_700b.jpg

    All you need to know about Dothraki. <3

    :love:
  • dulcitonia
    dulcitonia Posts: 278 Member
    Oh my......Thank you for the introduction :blush:
  • DearestWinter
    DearestWinter Posts: 595 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    dulcitonia wrote: »
    I was so confused about dothraki... I had to google.
    :)

    aBKzv9A_700b.jpg

    All you need to know about Dothraki. <3

    Quoting just so this picture appears again on this thread.
  • SueSueDio
    SueSueDio Posts: 4,796 Member
    Possibly the only good thing about the TV adaptation... :wink:

    *ducks*
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    SueSueDio wrote: »
    Possibly the only good thing about the TV adaptation... :wink:

    *ducks*

    And the saving grace of the DC universe? ;)

    I'll show myself out as well.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    dulcitonia wrote: »
    I was so confused about dothraki... I had to google.
    :)

    aBKzv9A_700b.jpg

    All you need to know about Dothraki. <3

    So worth giving up chicken for?

    (Now I just want to see how many times we can repost the photo!)
  • melissalatzel25
    melissalatzel25 Posts: 149 Member
    i tried it and HATED it. it said i shouldnt be eating the foods i love (berries etc) and i should eat MEAT - well i had such a bad digestion and ate very little because its all high caloric foods!
    i feel much better eating an abundance of plantbased foods full of water and fiber, makes my metabolism work really good because my digestion is amazing with no animal prroducts in my diet (no meat eggs dairy)
  • tomteboda
    tomteboda Posts: 2,171 Member
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    Certainly does make the DC Universe better. But please don't forget Tyrion Lannister. In my opinion, Peter Dinklage's performance is spectacular.

    I wonder what blood type the Lannisters are.

    Here's what WebMD has to say about the Blood Type Diet:
    On The Blood Type Diet, you’ll avoid processed food and simple carbs. That may be enough to help you lose some weight. But any weight loss on this diet has not been linked to your blood type.

    There’s also no research proving that this diet can aid in digestion or give you more energy.

    Although you'll buy and prepare your own foods on this plan, your choices are limited depending on your blood type. So be prepared to spend some time in the kitchen.

    The diet may quickly become expensive, too, since the author recommends you buy organics as well as his own line of supplements .

    If the Blood Type Diet intrigues you, consider this: The science is stacked behind traditional recommendations for healthy eating for weight loss -- not restrictions based on the type of your blood.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited March 2016
    Oh, I'm guessing Lannisters are Type O:

    "Type O was an early success formula. It is the only blood type that carries two opposing blood type antibodies (one blood type A and another against blood type B). These antibodies undoubtably conveyed some survival advantage, as many of the common diseases that plagued our ancestors possessed markers (antigens) that simulated the other blood types. Thus, what is commonly considered a transfusion complication was, in type O, a very useful defensive benefit. However, when misdirected, this innate immune reactivity can sometimes get in the way of good health. Blood Type O may be predisposed to certain illnesses, such as ulcers and thyroid disorders...

    ...This blood type has a very well-developed ability to digest meals that contain both protein and fat...

    ...The legacy of your Type O ancestry causes an immediate “fight or flight” response in people of this blood type. However, this finely tuned response to stress, so vital in early Type O’s, is not always so beneficial in modern times. The Type O response can cause bouts of excessive anger, temper tantrums, hyperactivity and even create a severe enough chemical imbalance to bring about a manic episode. Since there is a powerful, synergistic relationship between the release of dopamine and feelings of reward, Type O is more vulnerable to destructive behaviors when overly tired, depressed or bored. These can include gambling, sensation seeking, risk taking, substance abuse and impulsivity. To avoid becoming overstressed, Dr. D’Adamo recommends following the Type O diet, which focuses on lean, organic meats, vegetables and fruits and avoid wheat and dairy which can be triggers for digestive and health issues in Type O. Additionally, he suggests that Type O’s avoid caffeine and alcohol. Caffeine can be particularly harmful because of its tendency to raise adrenaline and noradrenaline, which are already high for Type O’s."

    Edit: heh, as a Type B, I love that it gets converted into a smiley with sunglasses above.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    I feel cheated. I'm B+ blood type, I do like lamb, but I think I'm more than a tan and linguistics lessons away from being a Dothraki.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    zyxst wrote: »
    dulcitonia wrote: »
    I was so confused about dothraki... I had to google.
    :)

    aBKzv9A_700b.jpg

    All you need to know about Dothraki. <3

    So worth giving up chicken for?

    (Now I just want to see how many times we can repost the photo!)

    *schedules surfing lesson*
    Give me him.

    April 24th- hurry!
  • robot_potato
    robot_potato Posts: 1,535 Member
    My blood type is supposed to avoid meat, caffeine and alcohol. Alcohol I can do without, probably meat too, but you can pry my coffee from my cold, dead hands.

    Also, I've dropped 55 pounds while consuming all of the above.
  • JShailen
    JShailen Posts: 184 Member
    edited April 2016

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    Posting just because...love GOT but season 1 was made because of this man! <3 That's all I have to add here lol
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    edited April 2016
    JShailen wrote: »

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    Posting just because...love GOT but season 1 was made because of this man! <3 That's all I have to add here lol

    I met him once. Very nice.

  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0060582/

    CONCLUSIONS: No evidence currently exists to validate the purported health benefits of blood type diets. To validate these claims, studies are required that compare the health outcomes between participants adhering to a particular blood type diet (experimental group) and participants continuing a standard diet (control group) within a particular blood type population



    http://blogs.mcgill.ca/oss/2012/11/18/what-is-the-“blood-type-diet”/

    The bottom line is that there is no evidence for these silly meanderings and confusing people with such nonsense will not put them on the path for proper nutrition.


    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0084749

    In summary, the present study is the first to test the validity of the ‘Blood-Type’ diet and we showed that adherence to certain diets is associated with some favorable cardiometabolic disease risk profiles. This may explain anecdotal evidence supporting these diets, which are generally prudent diets that reflect healthy eating habits. However, the findings showed that the observed associations were independent of ABO blood group and, therefore, the findings do not support the ‘Blood-Type’ diet hypothesis.

    In short - total hokum.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I have told this story here before. I was at a conference a few years back. One of the guest speakers was a naturaopathy doctor. She told the story of how she found this diet, it made so much sense, so she tried it out. Her blood type told her to eat a vegetarian type diet, avoid red meat, etc. She followed it and felt amazing. Her skin glowed, she dropped weight, people complimented her.
    Then during a conversation with her mother, she learned she was mistaken about her blood type. She was supposed to be eating the opposite diet, high in meat, etc.

    @3dogsrunning that was funny but epigenetics (the placebo effect) can give results like that per new research.

    blog.mindvalleyacademy.com/alternative-healing/scientist-show-subconscious-thoughts-can-cause-specific-molecular-changes-genes?utm_source=cm-blog&utm_medium=facebook-share&utm_campaign=mvablog-share

    Doesn't support anything related to blood type diet. Nope. Those genes do not affect blood type.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    I feel cheated. I'm B+ blood type, I do like lamb, but I think I'm more than a tan and linguistics lessons away from being a Dothraki.

    B RH+ K- here. I guess we are supposed to avoid chicken because it is somehow toxic. And tennis and golf are good exercise for us (I hate both. HATE.).

    Ok, wait, the guy that invented this also sells vitamins for my type on line.
    Take my money!!!




    sigh.
  • seekingdaintiness
    seekingdaintiness Posts: 137 Member
    diet hokum
    *has tried it, back in the 90s*
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    JShailen wrote: »

    aBKzv9A_700b.jpg


    Posting just because...love GOT but season 1 was made because of this man! <3 That's all I have to add here lol

    I met him once. Very nice.

    Honestly, that makes him hotter.

    I don't hold it against celebrities for being kinda jerks since people are always in their faces, I'm sure, but it's nice when they're also nice.
  • seekingdaintiness
    seekingdaintiness Posts: 137 Member
    Total hokum. If your friend is successful, it is because the restrictions are making her/him eat at a deficit.


    ^ pretty much
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