Heavy Lunch

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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    utkarshrai98 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Stanley1903 wrote: »
    No, it won't harm you as long as it's not an every day habit. I'm a 24 year old woman, and I entered sedentary and got a goal of 1237 calories a day at 5'6" and 185. You should be eating a bit more even if you're sedentary, especially since you're a man. 1400 calories a day should be plenty low for you to lose weight.

    1800 is the minimum amount of calories recommended for an adult male, one with only 10 lbs to lose should be consuming far more than that to lose 0.5 lb/week - sedentary or not.

    I read about it. Hmm, it does say that 1200 is too low. I should push it upto 1600+ and instead of weight reduction focus on lean muscle gain. It's just that I have a belly and I want it in! I grow desperate after it.

    You're not going to gain muscle on 1600 cals.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    utkarshrai98 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Stanley1903 wrote: »
    No, it won't harm you as long as it's not an every day habit. I'm a 24 year old woman, and I entered sedentary and got a goal of 1237 calories a day at 5'6" and 185. You should be eating a bit more even if you're sedentary, especially since you're a man. 1400 calories a day should be plenty low for you to lose weight.

    1800 is the minimum amount of calories recommended for an adult male, one with only 10 lbs to lose should be consuming far more than that to lose 0.5 lb/week - sedentary or not.

    I read about it. Hmm, it does say that 1200 is too low. I should push it upto 1600+ and instead of weight reduction focus on lean muscle gain. It's just that I have a belly and I want it in! I grow desperate after it.

    You're not going to gain muscle on 1600 cals.

    Exactly.

    OP - have you worked out your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure - how many calories you burn in a day between your basic bodily functions, your activity level, and any exercise)? What kind of exercise do you do? Many people do not get a body image they are looking for simply by losing weight. Being too aggressive with a calorie deficit can lead to a loss of lean body mass, and the dreaded "skinny fat" image. In order to gain muscle, you need to be at a calorie surplus, or at least, eating at your maintenance (TDEE) level.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    edited February 2016
    I am far older than you and eat 2100 a day to lose. You are likely eating far too little. If you are hoping to gain muscle, it won't happen eating 1600 calories. I would suggest you read some of the pinned topics such as the ones found here http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300331/most-helpful-posts-getting-started-must-reads#latest
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    fittestpal wrote: »
    Of course if you're calorie deficit you're gonna lose weight but it works better when you increase your metabolism. I'm not saying it's impossible to lose weight only eating once a day - I'm saying it's not ideal because your body soaks up everything it can to store it because it doesn't know when the next meal will be. Unless of course you eat 1 1000 calorie meal by which point you should be emaciated lol.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15806828
    http://www.humankinetics.com/excerpts/excerpts/frequent-meals-elevates-metabolism

    If that first pubmed link is an actual study, its abstract is sorely lacking. It makes many statements, but does not lay out how the study is done or the results. It looks more like a population study which makes statements of causation based on what was observed, but that is drawing incorrect inferences. That is, Correlation is not the same as Causation. Add to this that the article is from 2003, and much more research has been done since then, and it really doesn't prove what you think it does.

    The second link is not a study.

    I see someone else has responded with other links so I don't have to.

    If calories are keep the same, meal frequency has not effect on metabolism. The people frequent meals are helpful for are bodybuilders who eat a lot of food to meet their needs and would have a difficult time doing so in fewer meals.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    fittestpal wrote: »
    Of course if you're calorie deficit you're gonna lose weight but it works better when you increase your metabolism. I'm not saying it's impossible to lose weight only eating once a day - I'm saying it's not ideal because your body soaks up everything it can to store it because it doesn't know when the next meal will be. Unless of course you eat 1 1000 calorie meal by which point you should be emaciated lol.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15806828
    http://www.humankinetics.com/excerpts/excerpts/frequent-meals-elevates-metabolism

    The woo is strong with this one.
  • utkarsh_rai
    utkarsh_rai Posts: 40 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    utkarshrai98 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Stanley1903 wrote: »
    No, it won't harm you as long as it's not an every day habit. I'm a 24 year old woman, and I entered sedentary and got a goal of 1237 calories a day at 5'6" and 185. You should be eating a bit more even if you're sedentary, especially since you're a man. 1400 calories a day should be plenty low for you to lose weight.

    1800 is the minimum amount of calories recommended for an adult male, one with only 10 lbs to lose should be consuming far more than that to lose 0.5 lb/week - sedentary or not.

    I read about it. Hmm, it does say that 1200 is too low. I should push it upto 1600+ and instead of weight reduction focus on lean muscle gain. It's just that I have a belly and I want it in! I grow desperate after it.

    You're not going to gain muscle on 1600 cals.

    Exactly.

    OP - have you worked out your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure - how many calories you burn in a day between your basic bodily functions, your activity level, and any exercise)? What kind of exercise do you do? Many people do not get a body image they are looking for simply by losing weight. Being too aggressive with a calorie deficit can lead to a loss of lean body mass, and the dreaded "skinny fat" image. In order to gain muscle, you need to be at a calorie surplus, or at least, eating at your maintenance (TDEE) level.

    Why does this calorie counter then say 1500 calories? What should I interpret this as?
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    utkarshrai98 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    utkarshrai98 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Stanley1903 wrote: »
    No, it won't harm you as long as it's not an every day habit. I'm a 24 year old woman, and I entered sedentary and got a goal of 1237 calories a day at 5'6" and 185. You should be eating a bit more even if you're sedentary, especially since you're a man. 1400 calories a day should be plenty low for you to lose weight.

    1800 is the minimum amount of calories recommended for an adult male, one with only 10 lbs to lose should be consuming far more than that to lose 0.5 lb/week - sedentary or not.

    I read about it. Hmm, it does say that 1200 is too low. I should push it upto 1600+ and instead of weight reduction focus on lean muscle gain. It's just that I have a belly and I want it in! I grow desperate after it.

    You're not going to gain muscle on 1600 cals.

    Exactly.

    OP - have you worked out your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure - how many calories you burn in a day between your basic bodily functions, your activity level, and any exercise)? What kind of exercise do you do? Many people do not get a body image they are looking for simply by losing weight. Being too aggressive with a calorie deficit can lead to a loss of lean body mass, and the dreaded "skinny fat" image. In order to gain muscle, you need to be at a calorie surplus, or at least, eating at your maintenance (TDEE) level.

    Why does this calorie counter then say 1500 calories? What should I interpret this as?

    What calorie counter? MFP? Did you set everything up accurately? When you set up your profile with your stats including male, 18, height, weight, and an activity level; then provide a weight loss goal and how fast you want to lose, MFP should set a calorie target for you. With 10 lbs to lose you should put in 0.5lb/week, which would give you a deficit of 250 cals from your maintenance level excluding exercise. If you do exercise, you are meant to log that and eat back a portion of those exercise calories.

    Read this post. As many times as it takes for it to start making sense.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1

    An 18 year old male should not be eating 1200 calories, or even 1600 calories, to lose weight.

    I'm female, over twice your age and I lose weight eating 1800 calories.
  • utkarsh_rai
    utkarsh_rai Posts: 40 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    utkarshrai98 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    utkarshrai98 wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Stanley1903 wrote: »
    No, it won't harm you as long as it's not an every day habit. I'm a 24 year old woman, and I entered sedentary and got a goal of 1237 calories a day at 5'6" and 185. You should be eating a bit more even if you're sedentary, especially since you're a man. 1400 calories a day should be plenty low for you to lose weight.

    1800 is the minimum amount of calories recommended for an adult male, one with only 10 lbs to lose should be consuming far more than that to lose 0.5 lb/week - sedentary or not.

    I read about it. Hmm, it does say that 1200 is too low. I should push it upto 1600+ and instead of weight reduction focus on lean muscle gain. It's just that I have a belly and I want it in! I grow desperate after it.

    You're not going to gain muscle on 1600 cals.

    Exactly.

    OP - have you worked out your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure - how many calories you burn in a day between your basic bodily functions, your activity level, and any exercise)? What kind of exercise do you do? Many people do not get a body image they are looking for simply by losing weight. Being too aggressive with a calorie deficit can lead to a loss of lean body mass, and the dreaded "skinny fat" image. In order to gain muscle, you need to be at a calorie surplus, or at least, eating at your maintenance (TDEE) level.

    Why does this calorie counter then say 1500 calories? What should I interpret this as?

    What calorie counter? MFP? Did you set everything up accurately? When you set up your profile with your stats including male, 18, height, weight, and an activity level; then provide a weight loss goal and how fast you want to lose, MFP should set a calorie target for you. With 10 lbs to lose you should put in 0.5lb/week, which would give you a deficit of 250 cals from your maintenance level excluding exercise. If you do exercise, you are meant to log that and eat back a portion of those exercise calories.

    Read this post. As many times as it takes for it to start making sense.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1

    An 18 year old male should not be eating 1200 calories, or even 1600 calories, to lose weight.

    I'm female, over twice your age and I lose weight eating 1800 calories.

    I get it. i get it. Be patient with me. I've had some really unhealthy diets and I thought I needed a starvation period. But I guess,no. I should focus on better diets. Thank you for bringing my attention to this.
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