plz how can i get 200g proten from normal food?

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  • FrankieTrailBlazer
    FrankieTrailBlazer Posts: 124 Member
    The Topic is "Topic: plz how can i get 200g proten from normal food?"
    You appear to think that it is peer reviewed "fact" that eating to 200 grams of protein is healthy.
    Show me where I said that. Quote if for me. Go ahead, I'll wait.

    I never directly addressed the OP's question. I never made any specific recommendation as to protein intake for him. I have no idea what his stats/goals are, and am more savvy than to make a blanket recommendation for macronutrient composition based upon what little information he provided in the OP. I simply stated that some advice being given to him was incorrect and lacked a factual basis (yours included).
    My question remains unanswered, and I challenge the premise of this Topic.
    Well then, there's at least one thing we agree upon. I don't know that 200g of protein is an optimal intake level for the OP either. What I was specifically refuting was the protein scaremongering being dispensed by you and another poster - neither of which was backed by science.

    I am sorry to scare you so much little guy. Let me know when you can lead by example rather than by complaint and insinuation.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    I am sorry to scare you so much little guy. Let me know when you can lead by example rather than by complaint and insinuation.
    LOL. We're done, sport. You take care now, buhbye.
  • ashleen7
    ashleen7 Posts: 258 Member
    I see the anti-protein mafia are out in force.
  • Synapze
    Synapze Posts: 499
    Dude, you are asking for disease in the future...the Body can only metabolize about 26 grams of "protein" per day...the rest is undigestable and sitting around waiting for bad stuff to happen in your future, like having a nice looking body and in 20 yrs getting your "balls" fried from prostate cancer...To much "protein" does it do a Body good?!

    Great -.- Now im worried my "balls" are going to fall off...........
  • FrankieTrailBlazer
    FrankieTrailBlazer Posts: 124 Member
    I am sorry to scare you so much little guy. Let me know when you can lead by example rather than by complaint and insinuation.
    LOL. We're done, sport. You take care now, buhbye.

    lol... dont kid yourself....you never started.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member

    Where is your peer-reviewed article supporting that eating 200 grams of protein (any type) per day is healthy for individuals and doesnt lead to CHRONIC illnesses at some point down the road?

    http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/25

    It's logically impossible to prove a negative. There is no evidence that consuming 200g of protein will have any adverse effects on health.
  • Matt_Wild
    Matt_Wild Posts: 2,673 Member
    Studies on protein? Try looking at a few of these:

    "In a review of 41 studies examining the purported adverse affects of high protein diets in athletes, it was noted that protein intakes of 2.8g/kg did not impair kidney function in the short term (Manninen 2004). In an even more comprehensive review of 111 studies, specifically looking at protein intake and kidney function, it was found that athletes who habitually consumed over 2.0g/kg of protein showed no impairments in renal function (Martin et al, 2005). Another review examining safety concerns of protein for athletes, pointed out that no link between high protein intakes and heart disease could be made (only between excessive fat intake and heart disease). In fact, it was found that high protein intakes when fat was controlled actually reduced the risk of ischemic heart attack. It was also concluded that no link between high protein intakes and poor kidney health could be made. In fact, at least one study showed an improvement in kidney function among athletes who consumed high protein diets. This review also pointed to research that showed a protein intake of 150g had the same effect on calcium balance as an intake of 50g, contrary to the belief that high protein intakes cause calcium leaching. Lastly, it was noted that bodybuilders who habitually consumed more protein than athletes, who habitually consumed more protein than non athletes had no increase in calcium excretion. It is worth mentioning that the bodybuilder group consumed 50% more protein than the athletes, and the athletes consumed significantly more than the non athlete group (Bradley-Popovicha et al, 2003). A similar review titled “Protein and amino acids for athletes” had the same conclusions (Tipton et al, 2004), as did a more recent review “A Critical Examination of Dietary Protein Requirements, Benefits, and Excesses in Athletes” (Phillips et al, 2007). So, in light of recent research, it can be said more or less definitively that protein intakes around and slightly above 1g per pound of body weight do not hold the purported health risks, at least for athletes and bodybuilders."

    and for none trainers:

    In direct studies on non-athlete populations, similar results were found. This implies that neither the physical activity of athletes nor a possible bias held by the review authors is skewing the data. One study showed that there were no detrimental effects on kidney, liver or bone health after one year of consuming protein intakes of 2.2g/kg of lean body mass (Li et al, 2010). Another study showed that a diet consisting of 25% protein with an additional 50g of supplemental protein daily, had no ill effects on health (it also happened to be the best for maintaining a healthy weight after dieting) (Claessens et al, 2009).



    Hope that helps.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    Layne Norton has a PhD in protein metabolism......I think I will listen to him.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjmV8BlsJTQ
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    You can consume 200grams per day, but not necessary.

    QUOTE
    Another misconception is that "the more protein you eat, the more muscle you will gain." This is not true. After you have reached your dietary protein requirements, any further protein consumption will be stored as fat or encourage several other undesirable side effects. Excess protein can cause kidney stress. When you eat or drink excessive amounts of protein, your kidneys must work harder to process the protein. Excess protein intake can lead to dehydration as well since your body and kidneys require more water to process the protein. Over time, eating too much protein could predispose you to osteoporosis because excess protein causes calcium to excreted through the urine. A calcium deficiency can cause weak bones and promote osteoporosis.
    UNQUOTE

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/407764-protein-powder-myth/


    Ahhhhh, Livestrong. Such a great resource.

    I see your livestrong article and raise you another, from the same site. (The reason I don't trust any of their info)

    "According to University of Illinois professor Donald Layman, PhD., there are no dangers directly associated with eating high-protein diets. "
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/71961-protein-diet/
  • Confuzzled4ever
    Confuzzled4ever Posts: 2,860 Member
    eat tuna with breakfast, egg for snack, chicken for lunch, pork chop for snack, fish for dinner, jerky for snack with some whole chocolate milk or choclate in some greek yogurt...

    mmmm jerky... mmm chocolate milk.. mmmmmm.. mmmm greek yogurt..

    I think that's over 200g actually.

    dammit now i'm wanting jerkey and chocolate milk and greek yogurt..
  • RobP1192
    RobP1192 Posts: 310 Member
    So for you guys saying too much protein is ... "bad", what am i to do when my daily calorie requirements are 2800 for maintenance, but i only weigh 155-160lbs? Consuming only 160g of protein leaves a LOT of calories to be filled by either carbs or fats. Excess protein is bad for you, supposedly. What about excess fats? excess carbs? The body only suffers ill-effects from too many grams of protein but not carbs or fats? What about when i plan on adding mass?

    Just curious what "you guys" have to say. I don't want to keep taking in 200g of protein a day if i'm going to die in 5 years.

    Thanks
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    In...

    ...because excess protein is *obviously* what is most wrong with people's diets today.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Ignoring the 'oh noez protein is bad for you' posts that have no support...



    OP, why are you only trying to get 35g fats - that is too low and may well cause hormonal issues, including decreased testosterone levels. There is no point going that low when you have that many calories.

    Protein sources:

    - shrimp
    - fish
    - chicken/turkey
    - any meat for that matter
    - dairy, especially milk and greek yoghurt
    - eggs (egg whites are more protein dense)
  • hide_yo_cats
    hide_yo_cats Posts: 83 Member
    Dude, you are asking for disease in the future...the Body can only metabolize about 26 grams of "protein" per day...the rest is undigestable and sitting around waiting for bad stuff to happen in your future, like having a nice looking body and in 20 yrs getting your "balls" fried from prostate cancer...To much "protein" does it do a Body good?!

    LolNo!
    And i think you might need more fat in your diet. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will chime in on this.


    ETA. Listen to Sara!:flowerforyou:
  • amonkey794
    amonkey794 Posts: 651 Member
    Green split peas have 11g protein in 110 calories
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    Green split peas have 11g protein in 110 calories
    Which would make them about 40% protein (44 calories) per serving, the remaining 60% (66 calories) being carbohydrates. Pea protein also has a very low BV/PDCAAS score, meaning it's a low-quality protein in terms of being utilized by the body. Not a totally useless source of protein, but there are certainly much better options for somebody looking to optimize their protein intake and exercise some control over their macros.
  • Matt_Wild
    Matt_Wild Posts: 2,673 Member
    Interesting that I posted actual multiple studies, some of them meta analysis IIRC, and its ignore.

    Unless you have a renal problem, you are going to struggle to damage yourself with protein.

    Its MUCH more likely you'll damage yourself with carbs and getting obese but clearly those few with renal issues is much bigger problem to the world rather than increasing obesity problems across the West.

    Yep, thats right. Human illogic at its best :laugh: :laugh:
  • danceforlifegm
    danceforlifegm Posts: 2
    Here's how I do it:

    -Plain Greek yogurt (23grams protein in 120 calories)
    -Edamame (snack)
    -Protein laced carb foods such as "flatout" wraps, protein laced granola, beans, oats etc
    -LOTS of vegatables. Many veggies have a very close ratio of crabs to protein. So if you eat 10 servings at 3g protein, 4g carbs, your getting 40g protein for only 40g carbs.
    -Black beans (lots of fiber, bonus protein)
    -eggs and egg whites
    -lean ground/breast chicken/turkey, lean ground beef/petite steaks, lean pork loin (trim the fat),
    -cottage cheese
    -low fat milk
    -fish: Tilapia, Cod, Salmon, Tuna
    -low fat cheese
    -lots of lean lunch meats (beware of sodium content)
    -Turkey bacon

    There's tons of stuff! You can even build a relatively cheap, high protein diet with a lot of this stuff. Tilapia for instance can be had for pretty cheap. $10 for 10 fillets frozen at Safeway, Fred Meyer, Wal Mart etc. Greek yogurt can be had pretty cheap and is loaded with protein. Many lean meats can be had at bargain prices - just shop around and buy what's on sale. Eggs and egg whites are super cheap. And Tuna is relatively cheap and high protein too.

    Good Luck!
  • danceforlifegm
    danceforlifegm Posts: 2
    Interesting that I posted actual multiple studies, some of them meta analysis IIRC, and its ignore.

    Unless you have a renal problem, you are going to struggle to damage yourself with protein.

    Its MUCH more likely you'll damage yourself with carbs and getting obese but clearly those few with renal issues is much bigger problem to the world rather than increasing obesity problems across the West.

    Yep, thats right. Human illogic at its best :laugh: :laugh:

    You can hurt yourself by consuming too much protein. If you're taking in 800 grams a day and no other macros... hahaha. Some people have no idea what they are talking about.
  • phjorg1
    phjorg1 Posts: 642 Member
    Dude, you are asking for disease in the future...the Body can only metabolize about 26 grams of "protein" per day...the rest is undigestable and sitting around waiting for bad stuff to happen in your future, like having a nice looking body and in 20 yrs getting your "balls" fried from prostate cancer...To much "protein" does it do a Body good?!
    how in the sweet tits have you been around long enough to post this many times and yet still have been unable to learn even some of the most basic aspects of nutrition...

    Hell, even the RDA for sedentary people is far above 26g.

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