Maintaining on 1400 calories.....

I lost 51 pounds with MyFitnessPal and now I am succeeding on very steady maintenance. I eat back my exercise calories and I do alternating days of yoga, or light calisthenics (for 30 - 60 min.), or treadmill (for 15 min.) I also practice piano (for 30-60 min.) each day, and that does burn calories. (About 170 calories and hour).
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  • ginalove1960
    ginalove1960 Posts: 60 Member
    I usually only play piano for one half hour a day, and that only amounts to 85 calories. But often I'm amazed at how that 85 calorie burn comes in handy.
  • Gamliela
    Gamliela Posts: 2,468 Member
    I play accordion, calories burned and weight lift at the same time!
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,342 Member
    edited February 2016
    Playing piano burns cals...who knew :smiley:
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    I love it that you're a musician and playing every every day.
  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
    We ( hubby and i ) dont log our singing. I do tent to dance when i sing so i get some steps back for it hehehe ;)

    But his drumming i calculate ( i do his logging) for sure. He is more hungry after some hours of ( very energetic) drumming.

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  • simlovgin960831
    simlovgin960831 Posts: 34 Member
    Playing drums burns calories too.
  • rdrettig1
    rdrettig1 Posts: 62 Member
    I'm going to have to have my husband wear the heart monitor next time he plays his drums, he leaves behind a sweat puddle so I'm sure it is a good burn!
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I lost 51 pounds with MyFitnessPal and now I am succeeding on very steady maintenance. I eat back my exercise calories and I do alternating days of yoga, or light calisthenics (for 30 - 60 min.), or treadmill (for 15 min.) I also practice piano (for 30-60 min.) each day, and that does burn calories. (About 170 calories and hour).

    ummm.... nope - that's about the burn you'd get from a 60 minute yoga class -
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    rdrettig1 wrote: »
    I'm going to have to have my husband wear the heart monitor next time he plays his drums, he leaves behind a sweat puddle so I'm sure it is a good burn!

    also nope - an HRM is not giving a calorie burn for drum playing - LOLs
  • jeepinshawn
    jeepinshawn Posts: 642 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rdrettig1 wrote: »
    I'm going to have to have my husband wear the heart monitor next time he plays his drums, he leaves behind a sweat puddle so I'm sure it is a good burn!

    also nope - an HRM is not giving a calorie burn for drum playing - LOLs
    if he is sweating a lot his heart rate is up. An hrm would pick that up.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rdrettig1 wrote: »
    I'm going to have to have my husband wear the heart monitor next time he plays his drums, he leaves behind a sweat puddle so I'm sure it is a good burn!

    also nope - an HRM is not giving a calorie burn for drum playing - LOLs
    if he is sweating a lot his heart rate is up. An hrm would pick that up.

    yes an HRM is designed to pick up raised heart rate

    but the formula that underpins heart rate to calorie conversion on HRMs is only relevant to steady-state cardio it is based on lab conditions mapping VO2 uptake to HR under steady-state cardio (and I believe from 40% to lactate threshold)

    drumming is not steady state cardio - it is interval training if anything - an hrm does not provide a calorie burn for interval training - within any reliable estimation anyway .. it does spew out a number but I wouldn't be eating it
  • BurnWithBarn2015
    BurnWithBarn2015 Posts: 1,026 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    rdrettig1 wrote: »
    I'm going to have to have my husband wear the heart monitor next time he plays his drums, he leaves behind a sweat puddle so I'm sure it is a good burn!

    also nope - an HRM is not giving a calorie burn for drum playing - LOLs
    if he is sweating a lot his heart rate is up. An hrm would pick that up.

    yes an HRM is designed to pick up raised heart rate

    but the formula that underpins heart rate to calorie conversion on HRMs is only relevant to steady-state cardio it is based on lab conditions mapping VO2 uptake to HR under steady-state cardio (and I believe from 40% to lactate threshold)

    drumming is not steady state cardio - it is interval training if anything - an hrm does not provide a calorie burn for interval training - within any reliable estimation anyway .. it does spew out a number but I wouldn't be eating it

    This for sure

    When hubby goes for some hours of straight drumming i just feed him a bit more lol

    Not hundreds. But for sure when he practice weeks in a row he loses weight pretty fast. ( While he doesn't or didn't have to lose.) Its just like being or having a more active job
  • ginalove1960
    ginalove1960 Posts: 60 Member
    I'm a pianist. I have no trouble keeping my weight within normal BMI. It is now at 22. And all I do for exercise is:
    Practice piano for 30 -60 min. a day, at a slow pace.
    Practice Hatha yoga for 2- 3 times a week, for 30 min. each time.
    Practice "Chair"-Range of Motion exercises, for one hour, once or twice a month.
    Habitually take a couple of flights of stairs, where I live, at a running pace, both up and down. And make a point never to take the elevator.
    When I feel like it, I walk on a treadmill for 15 min. at 2.5 mph and 5% incline.
    One thing, I'm never real hard on myself. I just don't believe in it. My blood pressure, pulse, cholesterol, lipids, everything are real good. The Dr. took me off all those meds when I lost all that weight.
  • ginalove1960
    ginalove1960 Posts: 60 Member
    I'm a 5'8" female. And I usually eat anywhere from between 1450 - 1850 calories. Although today I ate 2000.
  • minizebu
    minizebu Posts: 2,716 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I lost 51 pounds with MyFitnessPal and now I am succeeding on very steady maintenance. I eat back my exercise calories and I do alternating days of yoga, or light calisthenics (for 30 - 60 min.), or treadmill (for 15 min.) I also practice piano (for 30-60 min.) each day, and that does burn calories. (About 170 calories and hour).

    ummm.... nope - that's about the burn you'd get from a 60 minute yoga class -

    Actually, the burn rates for the two activities (playing piano and yoga) are probably not as different as you might expect.

    Per the Compendium of Physical Activities ( https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories ), piano playing has a MET value of 2.3 and hatha yoga has a MET value of 2.5. The piano playing does have a lower MET value, but it isn't radically different from the yoga.
  • LivingtheLeanDream
    LivingtheLeanDream Posts: 13,342 Member
    I suppose if we burn almost 100 cals an hour by just general moving about the house for example an extra 70 cals for piano playing isn't out of the way....
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    minizebu wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I lost 51 pounds with MyFitnessPal and now I am succeeding on very steady maintenance. I eat back my exercise calories and I do alternating days of yoga, or light calisthenics (for 30 - 60 min.), or treadmill (for 15 min.) I also practice piano (for 30-60 min.) each day, and that does burn calories. (About 170 calories and hour).

    ummm.... nope - that's about the burn you'd get from a 60 minute yoga class -

    Actually, the burn rates for the two activities (playing piano and yoga) are probably not as different as you might expect.

    Per the Compendium of Physical Activities ( https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories ), piano playing has a MET value of 2.3 and hatha yoga has a MET value of 2.5. The piano playing does have a lower MET value, but it isn't radically different from the yoga.

    I'm always amazed at people who think that Yoga counts as exercise. I mean yeah, it's good for you, but 300 calorie burns in one hour? LOL no.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Hmmm...I play the big double bass. When I gig I lug it around NYC, up and down subway stairs, walking sometimes miles/pushing it on it's wheel. Then I gig standing up with it for 3 hours, usually dancing at the same time and singing. I don't even log that. I just figure...that's my life. I did it when I was fat too. I can't imagine logging piano calories, I'm sorry.
  • saragd012
    saragd012 Posts: 693 Member
    1400 calories doesnt seem to be enough for me to maintain, I lost more weight than I meant to by averaging 1400-1500 calories a day. Though, I am very active and have been lifting quite heavy weights lately, so maybe my metabolism has increased more than I anticipated. I think 1700-1800 may be more appropriate for me.
  • vivmom2014
    vivmom2014 Posts: 1,649 Member
    Why maintain on 1400 calories? Ugh, I wouldn't last.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
    I must admit, I play the banjo and my apple watch counts those movements as if they were steps. But they're not. If I don't take it off, I eat too much and my weight creeps up. I'm sure performing burns something. But not as much as steps.
  • robininfl
    robininfl Posts: 1,137 Member

    I'm always amazed at people who think that Yoga counts as exercise. I mean yeah, it's good for you, but 300 calorie burns in one hour? LOL no.

    Hatha yoga, yin yoga, no.

    Vinyasa styles? Yes that is exercise. I jog and have reasonable aerobic capacity, and a yoga class that keeps moving gets my heart and breath rate up through weight bearing movement, which is pretty much the description of exercise. I cannot imagine it's not burning calories.
  • snowflake930
    snowflake930 Posts: 2,188 Member
    edited March 2016
    Everyone burns calories just being alive, so any activity will add burned calories to overall calories burned daily. It is the overconsumption of calories burned that causes weight gain.
  • minizebu
    minizebu Posts: 2,716 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    minizebu wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I lost 51 pounds with MyFitnessPal and now I am succeeding on very steady maintenance. I eat back my exercise calories and I do alternating days of yoga, or light calisthenics (for 30 - 60 min.), or treadmill (for 15 min.) I also practice piano (for 30-60 min.) each day, and that does burn calories. (About 170 calories and hour).

    ummm.... nope - that's about the burn you'd get from a 60 minute yoga class -

    Actually, the burn rates for the two activities (playing piano and yoga) are probably not as different as you might expect.

    Per the Compendium of Physical Activities ( https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories ), piano playing has a MET value of 2.3 and hatha yoga has a MET value of 2.5. The piano playing does have a lower MET value, but it isn't radically different from the yoga.

    I'm always amazed at people who think that Yoga counts as exercise. I mean yeah, it's good for you, but 300 calorie burns in one hour? LOL no.

    @Francl27 I don't know if your comment was directed at me or not.

    My comment was in response to this post:
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    I lost 51 pounds with MyFitnessPal and now I am succeeding on very steady maintenance. I eat back my exercise calories and I do alternating days of yoga, or light calisthenics (for 30 - 60 min.), or treadmill (for 15 min.) I also practice piano (for 30-60 min.) each day, and that does burn calories. (About 170 calories and hour).

    ummm.... nope - that's about the burn you'd get from a 60 minute yoga class -

    I was not suggesting that either piano playing or hatha yoga was going to burn a lot of calories. I was only trying to point out that they burn a similar amount of calories, per the researchers that study metabolic equivalents of task (METs). I interpreted that post as suggesting that yoga would burn substantially more than piano playing, and I was trying to point out that this was not actually the case.

    For reference purposes:

    sitting quietly has a MET value of 1.3
    very slow walking (less than 2 mph, on a level surface) has a MET value of 2.0
    walking at 2.5 mph (on a level surface) has a MET value of 3.0

    Both piano playing and hatha yoga result in an energy expenditure somewhere on the spectrum between walking at a speed less than 2 mph and walking at 2.5 mph.

    So, yeah, there would not be a whole lot of calories being burned in either case.


  • minizebu
    minizebu Posts: 2,716 Member
    robininfl wrote: »

    I'm always amazed at people who think that Yoga counts as exercise. I mean yeah, it's good for you, but 300 calorie burns in one hour? LOL no.

    Hatha yoga, yin yoga, no.

    Vinyasa styles? Yes that is exercise. I jog and have reasonable aerobic capacity, and a yoga class that keeps moving gets my heart and breath rate up through weight bearing movement, which is pretty much the description of exercise. I cannot imagine it's not burning calories.


    I'm not a yoga practitioner, so I don't really know the difference in styles, but if you are interested in the comparison between styles, here are some screen shots from the Compendium of Physcal Activities (again, here's the link: https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories ):

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    I don't know if what you are calling "Vinyasa style" is what they are labeling here as "Power yoga".

    For the sake of comparison, bicycling at speeds less than 10 mph (leisure riding) has a MET value of 4.0 whereas both a jog/walk combination and running at 4 mph both have a MET value of 6.0.

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  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    vivmom2014 wrote: »
    Why maintain on 1400 calories? Ugh, I wouldn't last.

    lol same I have to have 2000
  • BikeTourer
    BikeTourer Posts: 191 Member
    minizebu wrote: »
    robininfl wrote: »

    I'm always amazed at people who think that Yoga counts as exercise. I mean yeah, it's good for you, but 300 calorie burns in one hour? LOL no.

    Hatha yoga, yin yoga, no.

    Vinyasa styles? Yes that is exercise. I jog and have reasonable aerobic capacity, and a yoga class that keeps moving gets my heart and breath rate up through weight bearing movement, which is pretty much the description of exercise. I cannot imagine it's not burning calories.


    I'm not a yoga practitioner, so I don't really know the difference in styles, but if you are interested in the comparison between styles, here are some screen shots from the Compendium of Physcal Activities (again, here's the link: https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories ):

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    I don't know if what you are calling "Vinyasa style" is what they are labeling here as "Power yoga".

    For the sake of comparison, bicycling at speeds less than 10 mph (leisure riding) has a MET value of 4.0 whereas both a jog/walk combination and running at 4 mph both have a MET value of 6.0.

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    Lol, my normal walking speed is the low end of the running scale. I only walk slower than 4 mph when I'm walking with others and it considered rude to walk my natural pace.
  • Gisel2015
    Gisel2015 Posts: 4,185 Member
    vivmom2014 wrote: »
    Why maintain on 1400 calories? Ugh, I wouldn't last.

    I maintain at about 1450 but I am very short, small, and much older than the OP. So it is possible because we are all different. Just because you wouldn't last doesn't mean that somebody else does.
  • robininfl
    robininfl Posts: 1,137 Member
    Thanks. I think vinyasa, the word, means something like flow or sequence. Power yoga is a subset of that. What it reminds me of is doing adagio in ballet, but with pushups, and upside down and so on. No-impact calesthenics. I certainly feel much more effort than an hour long walk but can maintain it for longer than a steady jog, so yes the chart makes sense. It's exercise.

    Hatha and yin are more about holding poses for several minutes each, less movement.
    minizebu wrote: »
    robininfl wrote: »

    I'm always amazed at people who think that Yoga counts as exercise. I mean yeah, it's good for you, but 300 calorie burns in one hour? LOL no.

    Hatha yoga, yin yoga, no.

    Vinyasa styles? Yes that is exercise. I jog and have reasonable aerobic capacity, and a yoga class that keeps moving gets my heart and breath rate up through weight bearing movement, which is pretty much the description of exercise. I cannot imagine it's not burning calories.


    I'm not a yoga practitioner, so I don't really know the difference in styles, but if you are interested in the comparison between styles, here are some screen shots from the Compendium of Physcal Activities (again, here's the link: https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories ):

    8g3xijjpbllu.png

    1qp712dnj7q6.png

    I don't know if what you are calling "Vinyasa style" is what they are labeling here as "Power yoga".

    For the sake of comparison, bicycling at speeds less than 10 mph (leisure riding) has a MET value of 4.0 whereas both a jog/walk combination and running at 4 mph both have a MET value of 6.0.

    mswchg6216ol.png

    9cqmj0xuf957.png

  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    BikeTourer wrote: »
    minizebu wrote: »
    robininfl wrote: »

    I'm always amazed at people who think that Yoga counts as exercise. I mean yeah, it's good for you, but 300 calorie burns in one hour? LOL no.

    Hatha yoga, yin yoga, no.

    Vinyasa styles? Yes that is exercise. I jog and have reasonable aerobic capacity, and a yoga class that keeps moving gets my heart and breath rate up through weight bearing movement, which is pretty much the description of exercise. I cannot imagine it's not burning calories.


    I'm not a yoga practitioner, so I don't really know the difference in styles, but if you are interested in the comparison between styles, here are some screen shots from the Compendium of Physcal Activities (again, here's the link: https://sites.google.com/site/compendiumofphysicalactivities/Activity-Categories ):

    8g3xijjpbllu.png

    1qp712dnj7q6.png

    I don't know if what you are calling "Vinyasa style" is what they are labeling here as "Power yoga".

    For the sake of comparison, bicycling at speeds less than 10 mph (leisure riding) has a MET value of 4.0 whereas both a jog/walk combination and running at 4 mph both have a MET value of 6.0.

    mswchg6216ol.png

    9cqmj0xuf957.png

    Lol, my normal walking speed is the low end of the running scale. I only walk slower than 4 mph when I'm walking with others and it considered rude to walk my natural pace.

    Those things vary greatly on your height and leg height though! For someone average like me, 3.5mph is starting to get brisk (that's my usual pace), and 4mph is fast. Heck I've seen people on these boards walking at 4.5 mph and I just can't imagine doing that, lol.