Why You Probably Don’t Need to Eat a Gluten Free Diet

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  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member

    Right, there must be something wrong with me. It has nothing to do with the fact that I'm being attacked. God forbid anyone on this forum not agree with the mob...

    You started the whole thing with your "reading between the lines" and "critical thinking" of the OP and now you're being attacked?

    Just as a side note I'm 55 and I use LOL, WTF, WTG and many other juvenile short cuts for texting because I don't have a stick shoved up my *kitten*!
  • barboryte1
    barboryte1 Posts: 13 Member
    Dangerous name for the article. For those of us that have no allergies or sensitivities to gluten or wheat or any other foods, it makes no sense. I know I don;t need a GF diet, but my husband does. He hasn't been diagnosed for celiac (only wheat allergy), but if he eats a crumb of wheat or soy sauce, he is sick in bed for days. In pain, bloated, and other things I do not want to mention publicly.... It is easier for my family when GF products are everywhere. We even considered to change the whole household over to GF. Not because it's better for us, but because it is safer for him.
    I haven;t heard a physician, a nutritionist or dietitian yet tell me go GF 'cause it's better for you. If some quacks out there say it to people that listen, it's a lost cause. Because no article like this will convince them anyway.
    To summarize, GF is not a Fad. It's a disease that is better diagnosed, better controlled now - thanks to the manufacturers jumping on this bandwagon. Otherwise, I would have to make all this stuff at home.
    (Oh, btw - even fast food burgers have wheat in them. So at least this fad brought to light that meat is not really meat in some places.)
  • DocMarr
    DocMarr Posts: 132 Member
    Each person's biochemistry is unique and what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another - and I think each person has to make up their mind as to what suits them. I was interested in the fact that the OP was citing sources that linked gluten and leaky gut. I had leaky gut, but mine was caused by candida overgrowth.

    The following quote between the stars *** is from the book "Wellness Against All Odds" by Dr. Sherry Rogers, M.D.; Published by Prestige Publishing, P.O. Box 3068, 3500 Brewerton Road, Syracuse, New York, 13220.

    *****The question that is often asked, as relates to the leaky gut syndrome, is answered by Dr. Rogers, that either can cause either - - in her words, "The leaky gut can cause food allergy, and food allergy can cause the leaky gut." Once that occurs, any number of auto-immune diseases can develop, such as rheumatoid arthritis, thyroiditis, lupus, multiple sclerosis ALS, as any part of the body can be the target for food allergy, including our inside skin lining the gut, which can manifest as ulcerative colitis.

    Some people are so sensitive to gluten, (found in wheat, rye, barley, and oats, and other grains) that they react to the slightest amount, not even knowing that they are sensitive to it. Dr. Rogers explains that the gluten sensitivity inflames the gut to the degree that he the body will make antibodies to of intestinal bacteria and chemical additives in foods.*****

    My point is that 10 years ago my body was a mess. I had IBS, arthritis, gout, gallstones, brain fog and was 70lbs overweight. I found out I had a candida overgrowth, which had caused food allergies. The candida overgrowth had come about because of a period of intense stress had caused an imbalance in my intestinal flora.

    Over the next few years I worked out what caused me problems. I found I was intolerant to wheat, dairy, eggs, yeast, alcohol, caffeine and any additives like MSG or aspartame. I was tested for coeliac but wasn't gluten intolerant but I did have a wheat allergy.

    Wheat gives me immediate and severe stomach cramps that puts my stomach into spasm for 2-3 days. Dairy runs straight through me. Eggs give me breathlessness and palpitations; alcohol and vinegar cause immediate mouth ulcers and irritate my intestinal tract and cause cystitis at the other end. Caffeine causes me to have blackouts, MSG and aspartame cause palpitations and make me feel awful. I know this because I have managed to isolate individually what they do through elimination and trying to reintroduce them. Whereas when I ate them it was difficult to isolate each one individually because it all bundled together into 'IBS' and generally feeling ill and fatigued.

    However, eliminating these from my diet also enabled me to drop the weight (and it has stayed off) and all of the other symptoms like the arthritis, gout, IBS and gallstones cleared up and have never come back for the past 9 years.

    Believe me, I wouldn't have put myself through all the torment of giving up all the things I loved (bread, cheese, yogurt etc etc) if it wasn't for the health benefits, but I didn't find out the full extent of the benefits until after I had eliminated them.

    So I think that people should be able to try what works for them. If they notice no difference then they won't keep going with it as it's pretty hard to make these major adjustments.

    As a final PS, I am pleased that GF has become more prevalent in recent years as I am now able to go to an Italian restaurant and have GF pasta. Ten years ago that just wasn't an option. :-)
  • rlmadrid
    rlmadrid Posts: 694 Member
    Awesome... Gluten Free.. more marketing Hype if you ask me.. Create a disorder then sell you the cure / prevention. Eat whole grains and minimally processed food & a balanced diet, you will be fine. Just like grandma used to make... jmop. . . :wink:

    I usually avoid all the threads debating dietary and autoimmune gluten issues. Simply because (like above) somebody always chimes in with comments on Celiac being a false or created disease. I've been banned before for wishing my symptoms on a particularly ignorant *gentleman*. :blushing:

    I wanted to pop in to thank you for this article though. I appreciate that there are people out there who have the ability to differentiate between a fad diet and a disorder which produce the same dietary restrictions. Maybe one day servers at restaurants will be properly educated on gluten and will take it as seriously as any other allergy.... having said that, this Wheat Belly fad will likely have to pass first.
  • shannashannabobana
    shannashannabobana Posts: 625 Member
    If you aren’t experiencing any symptoms of these three conditions, there’s no sound scientific reason for you to avoid gluten. None.
    There is nothing that says you have to, no. However, there is nothing in bread/wheat you can't get elsewhere, probably with a better nutrient profile. Potatoes and rice will provide you with plenty of carbs, in addition to fruits and vegetables. So as far as 'fads' go, at least this is probably not at all harmful.

    I've been experimenting with reducing wheat and sugar in my diet for a month or so. It's not really so hard (probably much harder if you actually have celiac's and have to watch out for every little spec, but if you are just reducing/avoiding it's not so bad). It's definately easy to cook without wheat at home. I don't buy 'gluten free' processed foods, I just buy meats and fruits and veggies and dairy. Voila.

    The main consequence of this change is that I'm eating more vegetables and I've lost 8 pounds.
  • Kindone
    Kindone Posts: 138 Member
    Never ever knew I had an issue with gluten until I went off wheat (was supposed to be briefly) for recurring agonizing sinus headaches. During that time, my experience with chronic fatigue, floaty body aches, and all body pain went away. When I would reintroduce wheat to my diet, I would get an autoimmune reaction and spike a fever, get body aches and afterward gastro effects as though my gut was attacked in a back alley by a gang wearing jack boots. I won't get tested because it involves going back on gluten. I miss bread like hell. Seriously. It might be a fad right now, but I am so grateful someone suggested it to me otherwise I would still be wasting my life not being active and taking medication for curious pains.
  • Bobbie8786
    Bobbie8786 Posts: 202 Member
    For those who do not have a medical reason for going gluten free, it is merely another fad diet that will eventually fade when the next fad comes along. The diet is far too restrictive for people who do not truly have a medical reason for giving it up.

    Dealing with the dogma that comes from a "true believer" is a whole other ball game (again not directed at people with legitimate health issues). It is pointless to try to give a differing opinion to someone who is 100% certain they have discovered the holy grail of dieting.

    For me, I take everything I read on here with a grain of salt (sorry to those of you who don't believe in salt) because, based on what I have read on this board, I think I can safely say that 99+% of the people posting have no advanced education in nutrition.
  • shannashannabobana
    shannashannabobana Posts: 625 Member
    The diet is far too restrictive for people who do not truly have a medical reason for giving it up.
    But...it's not really. If you live in the paleo/primal world, their are a lot of people who are big on the 80/20 principal. So you eat meats, fruits, veggies, potato, maybe rice, what have you 80% of the time, but if you are dying for a pancake it's ok to have it. To me, that isn't restrictive, that's a choice. In fact, my coworker asked me if I 'couldn't have' something and I told her I can have anything I want I'm choosing to avoid it right now. So some of this is a psychological question of what works for you.

    Some people go on these crazy diets where they only eat grapefruits or whatever and that has never been my personality, but I find this, using a moderate approach, fairly easy.

    What I think is interesting on this board...there seem to be a lot of people who are downright offended if you say you are avoiding something, even if that something is twinkies. 'EAT ALL THE FOODS' they tell you. Well, that may work great for you, but some people have to experiment not just with what works for weight loss but also what makes them feel good, not hungry, sleep better, low stress, etc.. And nobody else can say what will work for a specific person in this regard. So live and let live, I say. If you want to live off pasta and bread and diet cokes, go for it! But don't freak out if someone makes a different choice either.
  • kelly_lake
    kelly_lake Posts: 25 Member
    Well, guess what happens when you eliminate a large food group like grains from your diet? You tend to replace them with more protein, fruit, and vegetables. In other words, you improve your diet. A lot of people go from eating a horrible diet to a healthy diet by default when they go gluten-free. It's not the lack of gluten that makes you feel better, it's the improvement in other parts of your diet.

    I agree with this - since going gluten free I have as you said defaulted into better eating habits. I find it miles easier to hit my macros every day, and my diet is now mostly free from processed food. I don't buy 'gluten-free' alternatives as a rule though, apart from having gluten free flour at home for occasional use in cooking, I just don't eat the foods that contain it. I guess if you were replacing the bread/biscuits/pasta/pastry etc with gluten free alternatives it wouldn't have the same effect. As it is, I now get my carbs from brown rice, potatoes, fruit and veg, not from processed junk.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    bumping to read article in OP from home later on...
  • Leahsz
    Leahsz Posts: 81
    Thank you for posting. It baffles me that people restrict their diet when it isn't necessary.

    ^ me too
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    hoo boy. the crazies come out of the woodworks for these kinds of threads, don't they? :ohwell:

    I'll say this, on MFP, when one says their diet is restricted in one way or another, for some reason, they then need to prove WHY to every Joe Schmo who feels they need to 'walk it off' and just eat moderately. :huh:

    It's all that 'not a special snowflake' BS that keeps getting thrown at folks like good health is something that one simply has to stop being such a big ol baby about it and 'suck it up' and do the right thing, yanno, like put the fork down...eyeroll.

    It would be nice if those 'healthy' (usually young and arrogant with headless pictures of massive pecs & washboard abs...but that's judgey, right?) :blushing: I digress.....

    I think the thing I find most of disservice to people is the default position that *YOU* probably don't have this thing whatever it is, it's very rare yanno....:ohwell:
  • redheadmommy
    redheadmommy Posts: 908 Member
    Why anybody would care if others eat a certain food / food group or not? For example there are millions and millions of people in the world are vegetarian by choice. Animal protein and fat is huge food group , which is excluded by this people . So what ? It is their choice ! Wheat is not even an entire food group. Why people are bothered if others do not consume it?

    The OP post stated that barely 10% of the population have celiac or gluten intolarene or sensitivity or allergy. Well barely 10% is still a freaking huge number! This means millions and millions of people in the US alone! Obviously this was an almost virgin market not too lon ago, which is only recently discovered by companies. They started to make products for this untapped markets recently. Hallelujah! Why anybody is bothered if celiac people can buy a cookie and a granola bar in regular grocery store ???

    Many people mentioned that all the sudden recently so many people is diagnosed by ths, so it must be a fad, right? WRONG!
    Firstly , many modern tests are just recently developed. Prior 1997 the only dignostic tool was colon biopsy, which is an invasive and expensive procedure.1997 they had developed the first blood test, but it was still quite inaccurate , so the colon biopsy was still necessary. ThE most accurate test : DGP and TTg are only developed 2007! Obviously prior to easy, cheap and accurate tests were available significantly less people were diagnosed.
    Secondly on average we consume multiple times as much gluten as we did a few decade ago. Farmers grow strains of wheat that are much higher in gluten than it was 50 years ago. Plus in the 70's food companies started to put gluten - called vital gluten- in all kinds of food products. The result that we consume many times more gluten than we used to. Many people with mild gluten sensitivity can eat gluten , just not in the huge quantity that is in our modern diet.