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*sigh* This makes me very sad

rml_16
rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
edited January 28 in Chit-Chat
I went Sunday morning to see Much Ado About Nothing. We had planned on seeing it Saturday night, but after only one week in wide release, the only theater here showing it had relegated it to the one showing a day, first thing in the morning status where most movies find themselves after weeks and weeks.

It was ... just simply and perfectly fantastic (except for the odd woman sitting near us who laughed loudly at everything starting witn the opening credits and including the awful wedding scene, but whatever).

I rarely see a movie anymore. Most of them have little to no plot and are just excuses to blow things up and show car chases and abs. White House Down, which is probably making millions, is just Olympus Has Fallen (it appears) with a slighlty different story and cast.

People keep giving their money to crap and so all we get to watch is ... crap. I love going to the movie theater, but there is nothing worse than being trapped for two hours with a movie you wish would just end already.

And, also, there is rarely any live Shakespeare to be found around here and that movie made me realize just how much I love and miss that.
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  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    I went Sunday morning to see Much Ado About Nothing. We had planned on seeing it Saturday night, but after only one week in wide release, the only theater here showing it had relegated it to the one showing a day, first thing in the morning status where most movies find themselves after weeks and weeks.

    It was ... just simply and perfectly fantastic (except for the odd woman sitting near us who laughed loudly at everything starting witn the opening credits and including the awful wedding scene, but whatever).

    I rarely see a movie anymore. Most of them have little to no plot and are just excuses to blow things up and show car chases and abs. White House Down, which is probably making millions, is just Olympus Has Fallen (it appears) with a slighlty different story and cast.

    People keep giving their money to crap and so all we get to watch is ... crap. I love going to the movie theater, but there is nothing worse than being trapped for two hours with a movie you wish would just end already.

    And, also, there is rarely any live Shakespeare to be found around here and that movie made me realize just how much I love and miss that.

    People have developed a love of dumbed down entertainment. I suspect it has something to do with wanting to just escape and relax their minds.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    See, my mind does not relax to that. I can't "escape" into it because it's not good. Watching Olympus Has Fallen (I'm sure the book is better), all I could think about was the glaring plot holes in what could have actually been a good movie.
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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    *singing* Wish I could find a good book to live in, wish I could find a good book. If I could find a real good book.......
    :-)
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
    In the UK, theatres are still constantly putting on Shakespeare productions.

    As for films here is a list of recently converted classics you could watch:

    Corialanus (Ralph Fiennes, Gerard Butler, Jessica Chastain, Vanessa Redgrave)
    Wuthering Heights (dir. Andrea Arnold)
    Jane Eyre (Mia Wasokowski [sp?], Michael Fassbender)
    Great Expectations (Helena Bonham-Carter)
    Anna Karenina (Keira Knightley, Jude Law)
    The Tempest (Helen Mirren)
    The Great Gatsby (Leonardo DiCaprio, Carey Mulligan)

    I don't necessarily think all these films are great, but the old books still get converted if you have a look around.
  • PhattiPhat
    PhattiPhat Posts: 349 Member
    You couldn't get me to sit thru a play. Even if you promised me chocolate sundaes for a week.
  • CapnGordo
    CapnGordo Posts: 327
    "White House Down" bombed, relatively. Quite a few action films with big names (Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx, Will Smith) starring have bombed this summer. It's encouraging.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,134 Member
    I'm more hooked on series now than movies. Right now I'm watching "Magic City" and later when it comes out "The Newsroom".

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  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    In the UK, theatres are still constantly putting on Shakespeare productions.

    Its true.

    Othello is currently on at the NT with Adrian Lester as the lead.

    Looks utterly fabulous...
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    In my city, we have Shakespeare in the Park every year. We love it! It is free admission to sit on the lawn with your own blanket. They have concessions, or you can bring your own food. We see at least one each year.
  • worldsbestauntie
    worldsbestauntie Posts: 280 Member
    I went Sunday morning to see Much Ado About Nothing. We had planned on seeing it Saturday night, but after only one week in wide release, the only theater here showing it had relegated it to the one showing a day, first thing in the morning status where most movies find themselves after weeks and weeks.

    It was ... just simply and perfectly fantastic (except for the odd woman sitting near us who laughed loudly at everything starting witn the opening credits and including the awful wedding scene, but whatever).

    I rarely see a movie anymore. Most of them have little to no plot and are just excuses to blow things up and show car chases and abs. White House Down, which is probably making millions, is just Olympus Has Fallen (it appears) with a slighlty different story and cast.

    People keep giving their money to crap and so all we get to watch is ... crap. I love going to the movie theater, but there is nothing worse than being trapped for two hours with a movie you wish would just end already.

    And, also, there is rarely any live Shakespeare to be found around here and that movie made me realize just how much I love and miss that.


    The college I went to does a Shakesperean play for the big May production every other year. (The other years are musicals). I think it was Junior year they did Much Ado About Nothing. I loved it!!! (I also had my English teacher in high school to thank. It's due to her love of Shakespeare that I was actually able to understand what was being said.)
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    You couldn't get me to sit thru a play. Even if you promised me chocolate sundaes for a week.
    My boyfriend used to tell me he "hated" plays. Then I took him to one.

    How can you make a broad statement like that? A play is simply a live movie.
    Corialanus (Ralph Fiennes, Gerard Butler, Jessica Chastain, Vanessa Redgrave)
    Wuthering Heights (dir. Andrea Arnold)
    Jane Eyre (Mia Wasokowski [sp?], Michael Fassbender)
    Great Expectations (Helena Bonham-Carter)
    Anna Karenina (Keira Knightley, Jude Law)
    The Tempest (Helen Mirren)
    The Great Gatsby (Leonardo DiCaprio, Carey Mulligan)
    I'm pretty sure except for Gatsby, those are all pretty old by movie-going standards.

    I'm working on reading Anna Karenina right now. I can't stand the Brontes and Gatsby is a book I would support burning. lol I've heard mixed reviews on the movie. I loved Baz's take on Romeo and Juliet, but Moulin Rouge was awful.

    The US theaters also still put on a lot of Shakespeare. Just not the part of the US where I live.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    In my city, we have Shakespeare in the Park every year. We love it! It is free admission to sit on the lawn with your own blanket. They have concessions, or you can bring your own food. We see at least one each year.
    They have that in Buffalo and I went every year. They always did two plays. It was one of my favorite things.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    "White House Down" bombed, relatively. Quite a few action films with big names (Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx, Will Smith) starring have bombed this summer. It's encouraging.
    Good news!!!!

    Now, I do like a GOOD action film. If it's got good story and acting, great. Most of them don't anymore.
  • Joreanasaurous
    Joreanasaurous Posts: 1,384 Member
    In high school there was a Shakespeare festival I used to be very heavily involved in. I acted, stage managed, worked the box office. Everything. Gave me a huge love of theater in the park and Shakespeare.

    Loved Whedon's Much Ado. I was really nervous, but he did good.


    Now we have a different company that does Shakespeare in the park. I go every year. Never fails to suck me in.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    In high school there was a Shakespeare festival I used to be very heavily involved in. I acted, stage managed, worked the box office. Everything. Gave me a huge love of theater in the park and Shakespeare.

    Loved Whedon's Much Ado. I was really nervous, but he did good.


    Now we have a different company that does Shakespeare in the park. I go every year. Never fails to suck me in.
    I have yet to see something from Whedon that wasn't good. He really did do an incredible job, and all the actors, too.

    Nathan Fillion had me in stitches.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    I went Sunday morning to see Much Ado About Nothing. We had planned on seeing it Saturday night, but after only one week in wide release, the only theater here showing it had relegated it to the one showing a day, first thing in the morning status where most movies find themselves after weeks and weeks.

    It was ... just simply and perfectly fantastic (except for the odd woman sitting near us who laughed loudly at everything starting witn the opening credits and including the awful wedding scene, but whatever).

    I rarely see a movie anymore. Most of them have little to no plot and are just excuses to blow things up and show car chases and abs. White House Down, which is probably making millions, is just Olympus Has Fallen (it appears) with a slighlty different story and cast.

    People keep giving their money to crap and so all we get to watch is ... crap. I love going to the movie theater, but there is nothing worse than being trapped for two hours with a movie you wish would just end already.

    And, also, there is rarely any live Shakespeare to be found around here and that movie made me realize just how much I love and miss that.

    People have developed a love of dumbed down entertainment. I suspect it has something to do with wanting to just escape and relax their minds.

    I don't think people have developed it; I think it's always been there. Let's take Shakespeare for example. Not all his work was designed to be clever or insightful. Some of it was just like the action packed or gory movies of today. Look at Titus Andronicus. It had everything: rape, murder, mutilation, incest and swearing galore.

    Same story, different day.
  • maab_connor
    maab_connor Posts: 3,927 Member
    it's not even PLAYING within two HOURS of me!! WTH??? it's JOSS and SHAKESPEARE and has Oscar buzz but i can't SEE it??? i call not fair!!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Look at Titus Andronicus. It had everything: rape, murder, mutilation, incest and swearing galore.

    Having violence in a story doesn't make it dumb or bad if the story is told wel..

    Look at Game of Thrones. Gory, sometimes very ugly, but fantastic writing. It's not pretty, but it's quality.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    it's not even PLAYING within two HOURS of me!! WTH??? it's JOSS and SHAKESPEARE and has Oscar buzz but i can't SEE it??? i call not fair!!
    I'm not surprised. It's worth the drive, though. lol

    Since it's Joss, I would bet it'll be streaming once it comes out on DVD. He's very good about releasing his stuff that way. He said he didn't expect success with this (monetary, anyway). He did it for the love of the project.

    And he has quite the pretty house, too. lol
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
    You couldn't get me to sit thru a play. Even if you promised me chocolate sundaes for a week.
    My boyfriend used to tell me he "hated" plays. Then I took him to one.

    How can you make a broad statement like that? A play is simply a live movie.
    Corialanus (Ralph Fiennes, Gerard Butler, Jessica Chastain, Vanessa Redgrave)
    Wuthering Heights (dir. Andrea Arnold)
    Jane Eyre (Mia Wasokowski [sp?], Michael Fassbender)
    Great Expectations (Helena Bonham-Carter)
    Anna Karenina (Keira Knightley, Jude Law)
    The Tempest (Helen Mirren)
    The Great Gatsby (Leonardo DiCaprio, Carey Mulligan)
    I'm pretty sure except for Gatsby, those are all pretty old by movie-going standards.

    I'm working on reading Anna Karenina right now. I can't stand the Brontes and Gatsby is a book I would support burning. lol I've heard mixed reviews on the movie. I loved Baz's take on Romeo and Juliet, but Moulin Rouge was awful.

    The US theaters also still put on a lot of Shakespeare. Just not the part of the US where I live.

    Maybe not in the cinemas right now, but all released with the past 18 months. I think there is always a good mix of films available it's just that the blockbusters shout loudest because they have to make the most money. Also, summer is probably the wrong time of year because it is when the big blockbusters are released for the holidays. Wait until films are being released to get notice for awards season from autumn and there will be a better choice.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Maybe not in the cinemas right now, but all released with the past 18 months.

    Hmm. Well then, except for Anna and Gatsby, they didn't get played here, which goes back to my original point. Even when they're out there, they don't get the same chance at success.

    I look every week to see if there's anything worth seeing and I would have noticed all of those.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Look at Titus Andronicus. It had everything: rape, murder, mutilation, incest and swearing galore.

    Having violence in a story doesn't make it dumb or bad if the story is told wel..

    Look at Game of Thrones. Gory, sometimes very ugly, but fantastic writing. It's not pretty, but it's quality.

    Titus Andronicus was not particularly well told, just as many stories have not been throughout the history of human entertainment.

    My point is that this is nothing new. There has always been a high percentage of lower quality entertainment to high quality entertainment and people have consistently enjoyed the lower quality.

    Edit to say: I enjoy Game of Thrones but even it (the HBO version) has sacrificed some story telling for sensationalism. I enjoy sex scenes (I'm no prude and I love seeing different boobies) but even I have found myself asking, "isn't this getting a bit gratuitous?"
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Look at Titus Andronicus. It had everything: rape, murder, mutilation, incest and swearing galore.

    Having violence in a story doesn't make it dumb or bad if the story is told wel..

    Look at Game of Thrones. Gory, sometimes very ugly, but fantastic writing. It's not pretty, but it's quality.

    Titus Andronicus was not particularly well told, just as many stories have not been throughout the history of human entertainment.

    My point is that this is nothing new. There has always been a high percentage of lower quality entertainment to high quality entertainment and people have consistently enjoyed the lower quality.
    One poorly-written play that hasn't really survived the years (when was the last time you saw this performed or made into a movie?) doesn't prove that.

    I look back just 15-20 years at the movies available and there were far more good ones to choose from. TV, too. All this reality crap is new. TV has been around widely for 60 years and it's taken a sharp turn for the worse in the last 10.
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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Look at Titus Andronicus. It had everything: rape, murder, mutilation, incest and swearing galore.

    Having violence in a story doesn't make it dumb or bad if the story is told wel..

    Look at Game of Thrones. Gory, sometimes very ugly, but fantastic writing. It's not pretty, but it's quality.

    Titus Andronicus was not particularly well told, just as many stories have not been throughout the history of human entertainment.

    My point is that this is nothing new. There has always been a high percentage of lower quality entertainment to high quality entertainment and people have consistently enjoyed the lower quality.
    One poorly-written play that hasn't really survived the years (when was the last time you saw this performed or made into a movie?) doesn't prove that.

    I look back just 15-20 years at the movies available and there were far more good ones to choose from. TV, too. All this reality crap is new. TV has been around widely for 60 years and it's taken a sharp turn for the worse in the last 10.

    You're using selective memory. There has been plenty of crap on both TV and movies ever since the genres came about. Pick any year, say 1980 and point out the gems and for every gem, I'll give you 3 dozen stinkers.

    Oh and they did Titus not too long ago with Anthony Hopkins in the staring role.
  • Joreanasaurous
    Joreanasaurous Posts: 1,384 Member
    Look at Titus Andronicus. It had everything: rape, murder, mutilation, incest and swearing galore.

    Having violence in a story doesn't make it dumb or bad if the story is told wel..

    Look at Game of Thrones. Gory, sometimes very ugly, but fantastic writing. It's not pretty, but it's quality.

    Titus Andronicus was not particularly well told, just as many stories have not been throughout the history of human entertainment.

    My point is that this is nothing new. There has always been a high percentage of lower quality entertainment to high quality entertainment and people have consistently enjoyed the lower quality.
    One poorly-written play that hasn't really survived the years (when was the last time you saw this performed or made into a movie?) doesn't prove that.

    I look back just 15-20 years at the movies available and there were far more good ones to choose from. TV, too. All this reality crap is new. TV has been around widely for 60 years and it's taken a sharp turn for the worse in the last 10.


    Ok. This makes me want to get on my soap box. Twin Peaks anyone? That show was amazing.... But way too short lived

    There as so many clever shows that died way too soon because they were too clever or witty or smart and people want to sit in front of a screen and not think so they don't succeed.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Ok. This makes me want to get on my soap box. Twin Peaks anyone? That show was amazing.... But way too short lived

    There as so many clever shows that died way too soon because they were too clever or witty or smart and people want to sit in front of a screen and not think so they don't succeed.

    I get that. I was a huge So-Called Life fan. But even when that got cancelled, we had Friends, Seinfeld and a bunch of others.

    I remember years and years where there was literally not a single night of the week without a show on that I wanted -- had to! -- watch. Now, maybe two nights a week there's something decent, not counting reruns.

    A lot of good stuff got canned. But a lot of good stuff didn't.

    Granted, we still have things like Mad Men, but the networks have nothing. And that's only on for three months a year.

    I'm not saying there hasn't a;ways been crap available. I'm saying that there is a higher ratio now of crap/good.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Oh and they did Titus not too long ago with Anthony Hopkins in the staring role.

    Fourteen years ago.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Oh and they did Titus not too long ago with Anthony Hopkins in the staring role.

    Fourteen years ago.

    Not bad for a play that was written over 400 years ago. I'd say it 'survived the years'.
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