Plateauing for a long time, could use some help.

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  • jadedone
    jadedone Posts: 2,446 Member
    There are some studies that seem to think saturated fat was improperly targeted as the cause of problems. Lots of the saturated fat we consume is packaged with other problematic foods (like simple sugars or white bread or other fiber free food).

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22116724/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/what-if-bad-fat-isnt-so-bad/#.UdsiIT5AQw4

    It looks like the original premise was wrong. There are plenty of human populations who consume tons of saturated fats that do not have problems with obesity or heart disease. It is more complicated than "skip saturated fat."

    Personally, I find it is easier to eat a small amount of full flavored cheese. Than any amount of lowfat cheese (in the vast majority of cases). But cheese isn't really a protein. I think of it as a flavoring agent. Like bacon. Not a great source of protein, but an excellent source of flavor for your potatoes, eggs, beans or soups.

    I totally agree, the problem with demonizing fat in general is it causes people to consume more processed, high sugar, low fiber carbs instead. Something might be labelled "fat free but have 40g of sugar. In the end its really about balance. There are better options and there are better choices. Hi fat foods are also high in calories. So if its a pungent cheese like blue cheese you will probably eat less of it, but if its a cheese like cottage cheese the fat free version taste almost the same and you can eat more of it. Its nice to save some calories so you can have that scoop of ice cream later when you're craving it and not hurt your efforts.

    I dont know why the topic of bacon is such an issue but turkey bacon is delicious and half the calories and less fat. The real issue is balance, not high fat low carb, or high carb low fat...just make better choices.

    I don't like Turkey Bacon, but I do recommend Wellshire's reduced sodium, reduced fat bacon. It tastes exactly the same as "regular" bacon and is nitrite free. Winning all around. Each slice is 30 calories!
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    While I appreciate the helpful advice, for now I am closing my diary again to friends-only. I have gotten several private messages, one of which told me to completely cut out all fruits and grains and eat 800 calories a day. Another suggested Atkins (great idea, considering I am not a huge meat-eater, but I love fruits and vegetables). Honestly, I kind of wish I never asked, because I feel more confused than ever about what I'm supposed to do. For now, I am increasing protein and exercise and am buying a food scale when I get my paycheck next week. I just set my macros at 40/30/30 as suggested. So... yeah.

    Sorry things got confusing. If you want, check out the Eat Train Progress group and read through the stickies. Maybe the info there will help make things clearer. Best of luck OP :)
  • PandaCustard
    PandaCustard Posts: 204 Member
    Sorry things got confusing. If you want, check out the Eat Train Progress group and read through the stickies. Maybe the info there will help make things clearer. Best of luck OP :)

    I'll check that out. Thanks! :)
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    While I appreciate the helpful advice, for now I am closing my diary again to friends-only. I have gotten several private messages, one of which told me to completely cut out all fruits and grains and eat 800 calories a day. Another suggested Atkins (great idea, considering I am not a huge meat-eater, but I love fruits and vegetables). Honestly, I kind of wish I never asked, because I feel more confused than ever about what I'm supposed to do. For now, I am increasing protein and exercise and am buying a food scale when I get my paycheck next week. I just set my macros at 40/30/30 as suggested. So... yeah.

    I keep my diary closed for that reason. But it sounds like you are on the right track. Good luck with everything. :flowerforyou:
  • I haven't taken an online course in personal training or written a book about how to make chihuahuas go number 2 in a litter box,

    :laugh: The reviews on Amazon are pretty fun.

    Really, now we are attacking my book? At least I am a published author..what at all does Dog Training have to do with this Forum or this Thread? What is it you do again? Lets all change the thread and start attacking your job and career that makes sense. Isn't all this gossipping against Forum Rules?

    edit..oh I see you're part of the Bacon Club it all makes sense, just another to add to the ignore list and please if you don't like what I have to say do me the favor of simply clicking the ignore button next to my name.
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
    While I appreciate the helpful advice, for now I am closing my diary again to friends-only. I have gotten several private messages, one of which told me to completely cut out all fruits and grains and eat 800 calories a day. Another suggested Atkins (great idea, considering I am not a huge meat-eater, but I love fruits and vegetables). Honestly, I kind of wish I never asked, because I feel more confused than ever about what I'm supposed to do. For now, I am increasing protein and exercise and am buying a food scale when I get my paycheck next week. I just set my macros at 40/30/30 as suggested. So... yeah.

    I'm sorry. I agree that Eat, Train, Progress is a great group. I've learned a lot just by lurking there.

    And I was the one that commented on 30 day shred. I didn't mean to make you feel that the workout was inadequate, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the BH trainer (since she's been just a peach in a couple different threads) that she said you weren't doing enough, but once you said 30 Day Shred she shut up...because she works at a Jillian Michaels owned gym.
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
    I haven't taken an online course in personal training or written a book about how to make chihuahuas go number 2 in a litter box,

    :laugh: The reviews on Amazon are pretty fun.

    Really, now we are attacking my book? At least I am a published author..what at all does Dog Training have to do with this Forum or this Thread? What is it you do again? Lets all change the thread and start attacking your job and career that makes sense. Isn't all this gossipping against Forum Rules?

    edit..oh I see you're part of the Bacon Club it all makes sense, just another to add to the ignore list and please if you don't like what I have to say do me the favor of simply clicking the ignore button next to my name.

    ~pats head~ self published
  • PandaCustard
    PandaCustard Posts: 204 Member
    I'm sorry. I agree that Eat, Train, Progress is a great group. I've learned a lot just by lurking there.

    And I was the one that commented on 30 day shred. I didn't mean to make you feel that the workout was inadequate, I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the BH trainer (since she's been just a peach in a couple different threads) that she said you weren't doing enough, but once you said 30 Day Shred she shut up...because she works at a Jillian Michaels owned gym.

    Gotcha. Honestly, while it is a great workout, I probably should be working out more since I have plateaued. I have pretty severe fatigue problems, and the only way to get through it is to try to be as active as I can. (Although what you pointed out is pretty funny...)
  • I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the BH trainer (since she's been just a peach in a couple different threads) that she said you weren't doing enough, but once you said 30 Day Shred she shut up...because she works at a Jillian Michaels owned gym.

    I don't think I've "shut up" about anything. 17 minutes of circuit training is not enough and thats my opinion, I never took it back, I could care less if I work at a Gym founded by Jillian Michaels it really makes no difference to me. Worry about your own fitness and providing your own helpful advice instead of lingering on my every word and trolling around everytime I make a post about something. The ignore button is a wonderful feature, please do yourself the favor of using it.

    And sorry hate to tell you I'm not self published by thanks for caring so much about me and googling all my information like a creepy stalker.
  • Self Published would imply I paid to have my book Published, if you bothered looking up the company I sent in a transcript which they accepted. I did not spend one dime publishing my book and I have their crappy editors to thank for leaving grammatical errors in the final published version. This is why books go through an editing process. Regardless this has NOTHING to do with fitness and its a little creepy that I now have trollers investigating me because we have different opinions on our approach to fitness.

    FACT #5: PublishAmerica is not in any way a POD, vanity press, or subsidy publisher, and has nothing in common with them. None of our authors are being self-published. In the most commonly used context, POD indicates "Publish On Demand", or vanity publishing. Vanity publishers charge for publishing someone's book. PublishAmerica does not.
  • Alex
    Alex Posts: 10,137 MFP Staff
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