What can you tell me about probiotics vitamins?
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michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Prevention is a horrible source and is just an advertising vehicle for the alternative health industry so not even interested in looking at that. The published data, and serveral side sources I looked at are so tenuous they say nothing other than this is an interesting area that might show some promise but too early to tell. Not saying that there isn't an effect, since anything in the body can cause reactions that might show up in unexpected ways in behaviour etc but it's just too early to know if this is just a wild goose chase or something that will prove useful.
ETA even if there is some promise here we have no idea yet about treatment and interventions so attempting to manipulating your gut flora based on a still speculative theory wouldn't be wise. If we don't know the basic effects how does one know how to treat it?0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Google is not a good source of scientific information.
Please explain how probiotics that can effect guy bacteria have anything to do neurotransmitters in the brain.
Yeah-I think I'll stick to my psych meds instead of trying probiotics.
You need to do you, but you can't make a blanket statement like "probiotics have nothing to do with depression" when you are clearly uneducated about the topic. And I'm not using google as a source, I'm using google to find reputable sources.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Prevention is a horrible source and is just an advertising vehicle for the alternative health industry so not even interested in looking at that. The published data, and serveral side sources I looked at are so tenuous they say nothing other than this is an interesting area that might show some promise but too early to tell. Not saying that there isn't an effect, since anything in the body can cause reactions that might show up in unexpected ways in behaviour etc but it's just too early to know if this is just a wild goose chase or something that will prove useful.
Valid, I just linked the first few articles I came across.
There is a lot of research out there know regarding Gut Flora, and the effects on overall health when it is out of whack. It's even been linked to Autism. I'm not going to make a blanket statement that SIBO, Candida, Gut Flora, etc. are the end all be all of all other ailments, but I am on the side that thinks that we at least need to research more and learn more about the human body and our systems to see the effects on our overall health. We're still learning and I'm not going to dismiss a relatively new potential cause of various ailments.
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michelle172415 wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Google is not a good source of scientific information.
Please explain how probiotics that can effect guy bacteria have anything to do neurotransmitters in the brain.
Yeah-I think I'll stick to my psych meds instead of trying probiotics.
You need to do you, but you can't make a blanket statement like "probiotics have nothing to do with depression" when you are clearly uneducated about the topic. And I'm not using google as a source, I'm using google to find reputable sources.
Nope. I am pretty confident I can say that.
It is also a horrible idea and irresponsible to suggest probiotics can help with depression, especially when the sources say there "could" be a correlation. Someone could read that and say "oh well I guess I don't need my antidepressants, I should just take probiotics".0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Prevention is a horrible source and is just an advertising vehicle for the alternative health industry so not even interested in looking at that. The published data, and serveral side sources I looked at are so tenuous they say nothing other than this is an interesting area that might show some promise but too early to tell. Not saying that there isn't an effect, since anything in the body can cause reactions that might show up in unexpected ways in behaviour etc but it's just too early to know if this is just a wild goose chase or something that will prove useful.
Valid, I just linked the first few articles I came across.
There is a lot of research out there know regarding Gut Flora, and the effects on overall health when it is out of whack. It's even been linked to Autism. I'm not going to make a blanket statement that SIBO, Candida, Gut Flora, etc. are the end all be all of all other ailments, but I am on the side that thinks that we at least need to research more and learn more about the human body and our systems to see the effects on our overall health. We're still learning and I'm not going to dismiss a relatively new potential cause of various ailments.
I'm all for more research where the facts indicate promise, but their is little real evidence of linnks to issues such as Autism etc, they are still just theories. The big issue is not the correctness of the theories to me, it's the use of unproven treatments that aren't even based on what little we know. Of the billions of microbes in your gut, which are good and which are bad? We know that some react negatively with certain genes for some physical ailments as one of our regular posters can attest to, but until we know more about the affects of various bacteria on brain chemistry it would be foolish to try to manipulate it intentionally for such effects. At best, it might be somewhat beneficial, but that would be more luck than anything else; most-likely it will just be a waste of time and money, and at worst it might do harm to you.0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Google is not a good source of scientific information.
Please explain how probiotics that can effect guy bacteria have anything to do neurotransmitters in the brain.
Yeah-I think I'll stick to my psych meds instead of trying probiotics.
Huh?
90% of the body's serotonin is located in the gut.
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ClubSilencio wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Google is not a good source of scientific information.
Please explain how probiotics that can effect guy bacteria have anything to do neurotransmitters in the brain.
Yeah-I think I'll stick to my psych meds instead of trying probiotics.
Huh?
90% of the body's serotonin is located in the gut.
Correct, but it won't passs the blood-brain barrier.0 -
Just to be clear, I am not advocating people get off their depression meds and take probiotics instead. *rolls eyes*
As I said in my earlier post, your health (both mental and physical) is not solved or destroyed by one single action, supplement, drug or anything else. Probiotics are not going to be the single thing that fixes one particular problem.
Everyone who suffers from depression or any mental illness needs to be responsible for working with their doctor/therapist/psychiatrist for their own comprehensive treatment. Hopefully they are not using some off-hand comment on a forum to completely overhaul their depression treatment.
As someone who suffers from chronic depression & has tried medication, therapy and various other treatments over my lifetime, I was simply sharing how one small piece of my entire lifestyle is contributing to my mental state.
OP asked people to share how probiotics had influenced their lives in various ways & I was simply sharing how they have influenced mine.
Relax.0 -
People shouldn't get off their meds if it's unwise and unsafe for them. Although they can with medical guidance if they are experiencing adverse reactions and side effects.
I am only going to discuss one neurotransmitter. Histamine. The bacteria in my gut causes nerve pain in my face because of histamine reactions. Histamine has many functions as part of the immune system, hormone activity, and a neurotransmitter. I honestly haven't looked into it all that much. It's a personal medical issue for me. So, of course I try to avoid debilitating pain in my face. So, I have looked into it to the degree that I need to and will continue to as needed. But, I don't come here armed with sources at the moment.0 -
michelle172415 wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Google is not a good source of scientific information.
Please explain how probiotics that can effect guy bacteria have anything to do neurotransmitters in the brain.
Yeah-I think I'll stick to my psych meds instead of trying probiotics.
You need to do you, but you can't make a blanket statement like "probiotics have nothing to do with depression" when you are clearly uneducated about the topic. And I'm not using google as a source, I'm using google to find reputable sources.
Nope. I am pretty confident I can say that.
It is also a horrible idea and irresponsible to suggest probiotics can help with depression, especially when the sources say there "could" be a correlation. Someone could read that and say "oh well I guess I don't need my antidepressants, I should just take probiotics".
Surely it couldn't hurt to take probiotics alongside antidepressant meds... Who knows, it may make a positive difference.1 -
I just eat healthy foods with 1-5 ingredients, avoid processed sugar and food chemicals as much as possible, eat lots of vegetables, prebiotic and probiotic foods rather than supplements. I'm not against supplements, but I love probiotic foods.0
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Oh wow! This conversation has really picked up! Time get get caught up here.0
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I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Thank you and all of the others who have posted as well. Do you refridgerate them as others are saying? It says nowhere on my bottle that I need to do so.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »ClubSilencio wrote: »michelle172415 wrote: »I suffer from/have suffered from sinus issues & depression. My aunt (who has gluten & dairy allergies) recommended a brand of probiotic. Of course, I can't remember the brand right now...
Anyway, I take them on weekdays when I remember. My sinus issues have been much better. My depression is doing very well right now. I'm not seeing it contribute to my weight loss though. I've never had much trouble pooping or anything, so no changes there.
As others have said, probiotics are just one piece in a large puzzle. You have to supplement the probiotic with exercise, healthy diet (low sugar, low processed food), etc. Just diet alone will not always work, as some people actually need help rebuilding their gut flora. Beware of foods that say they have probiotics in them. Not that they're bad, just that our modern food processing (homoginization, pasturazing, etc) kills the good bacteria with the bad. That's why many people have started fermenting their own foods & taking probiotics.
Probiotics have nothing to do with depression.
You're wrong.
http://www.prevention.com/mind-body/probiotics-antidepressants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25470391
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html
Google it, there are tons of articles out there.
Google is not a good source of scientific information.
Please explain how probiotics that can effect guy bacteria have anything to do neurotransmitters in the brain.
Yeah-I think I'll stick to my psych meds instead of trying probiotics.
Huh?
90% of the body's serotonin is located in the gut.
Correct, but it won't passs the blood-brain barrier.
Not to call you out. I just find it interesting, so I thought I'd share. Actually things like that do travel to the brain...Chemicals like tryptophan, serotonin and even DNA have been proven to make their way up the blood stream. In fact, that's how SSRI's work. That's why there are "brain foods" They have even found with scientific research that women who have male babies store some of the childs dna in their brain because it travels from the gut to their brain. It's pretty neat if you think about it!
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Ok sorry to post three responses in a row. I kind of went on a hiatus and didn't expect so much interest. Thanks so much for the help everybody. I hope to get the same positive results some of you other posters have gotten!0
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Some probiotics need refrigeration and others don't. Might as well refrigerate just in case.0
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BinaryPulsar wrote: »Some probiotics need refrigeration and others don't. Might as well refrigerate just in case.
Yep, I always store mine in the fridge, whether they're "shelf stable" or not.0 -
you can get the same result by eating greek yogurt.0
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ToManyBeers wrote: »you can get the same result by eating greek yogurt.
I spoke to a pharmacist about that idea, and she said it's virtually impossible to eat enough greek yogurt to get beneficial results.0 -
JustMissTracy wrote: »ToManyBeers wrote: »you can get the same result by eating greek yogurt.
I spoke to a pharmacist about that idea, and she said it's virtually impossible to eat enough greek yogurt to get beneficial results.
True. And if you could, you would have to eat a ton of yogurt..
For example, 1 capsule of the probiotic i take is equal to 22 tubs of yogurt0
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