Should i try the military diet?

Sorry for the frequent posting, and if something like this has been posted before. But i have been reading a lot about the military diet and wanted to see if any of you guys have tried it and how did it work for you. I've read mixed reviews, but it seems like to me that the pros outweigh the cons.
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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    No! Eat a sensible calorie intake and add some exercise, you will be successful. There are no short cuts.
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    So what are the pros of starving yourself eating all the wrong foods to lose a few pounds of water weight?
  • booksandchocolate12
    booksandchocolate12 Posts: 1,741 Member
    edited March 2016
    What is about this diet that makes you think that the pros outweigh the cons? Is it the "magical" food combinations, or the fact that it has absolutely no affiliation with the military?
  • cnbbnc
    cnbbnc Posts: 1,267 Member
    You don't have to do anything like that. It's not that complicated! Simply weigh/log all your foods properly and stay within your daily limit. That's all it takes!
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    In your last post you said you changed from low carb because of too many restrictions.
    The "military diet" is very restrictive, not associated with any military, and if I remember correctly not healthy at all.

    I think you should just start logging your food here. Don't try to make this more complicated than it has to be.
    - Log your food/drinks everyday for the next month (seriously everything that passes your lips)
    - Use a food scale for solid foods for increased accuracy (less clean up then measuring cups)
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    No military in the world would do this to their soldiers, so why would you inflict it on yourself?
  • Kaelan1995
    Kaelan1995 Posts: 20 Member
    Well the pros seem to be that you lose 10 pounds in 3 days without gaining the weight back. The website says that if you eat 1,500 calories a day after the diet, then you will keep the weight off. The main "con" for me is that i'm afraid i will get so hungry that i will eat more than i'm supposed to and gain the weight back. Because my fitness pal recommends around 2,600 calories for me a day and eating 1100 calories less than that probably won't be good for me in the long run. But then again, I've heard that my fitness pal recommends more calories than you're supposed to have a day. And if you read my last post, then you will see that my weight is at a stand still. So i am trying to switch it up and find something that really works for ME.
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    Stop going for quick fixes like low-carb and the military diet and just start eating at a calorie deficit.
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    synacious wrote: »
    Stop going for quick fixes like low-carb and the military diet and just start eating at a calorie deficit.
    A calorie deficit is much easier to follow than those ridiculous diets, as well.
  • tuckerrj
    tuckerrj Posts: 1,453 Member
    No. Just, no.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Should I try the military diet?

    No, you shouldn't.
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    Kaelan1995 wrote: »
    Well the pros seem to be that you lose 10 pounds in 3 days without gaining the weight back. The website says that if you eat 1,500 calories a day after the diet, then you will keep the weight off. The main "con" for me is that i'm afraid i will get so hungry that i will eat more than i'm supposed to and gain the weight back. Because my fitness pal recommends around 2,600 calories for me a day and eating 1100 calories less than that probably won't be good for me in the long run. But then again, I've heard that my fitness pal recommends more calories than you're supposed to have a day. And if you read my last post, then you will see that my weight is at a stand still. So i am trying to switch it up and find something that really works for ME.

    But you also admitted to not logging and keeping track in your head. I don't know about you, but for me that would lead me to forgetting things and as such consuming more calories than I thought.

    I've never read that MFP gives too many base calories. Most of the time I read about it giving too few base calories and overestimating on exercise burns.
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    Kaelan1995 wrote: »
    Well the pros seem to be that you lose 10 pounds in 3 days without gaining the weight back. The website says that if you eat 1,500 calories a day after the diet, then you will keep the weight off. The main "con" for me is that i'm afraid i will get so hungry that i will eat more than i'm supposed to and gain the weight back. Because my fitness pal recommends around 2,600 calories for me a day and eating 1100 calories less than that probably won't be good for me in the long run. But then again, I've heard that my fitness pal recommends more calories than you're supposed to have a day. And if you read my last post, then you will see that my weight is at a stand still. So i am trying to switch it up and find something that really works for ME.

    Does the diet provide a calorie deficit of 35 000 in those three days? How much ARE you eating now?

    Does "if you eat 1,500 calories a day after the diet, then you will keep the weight off" sound more reliable to you than "eat at a calorie deficit of 500-1000 calories per day and lose weight in a healthy and sustainable way"? If you feel that you are eating too much, why don't you just reduce the amount you are eating, insted of eating almost nothing, especially when you know that you are going to eat too much after you've eaten too little?

    You know that "the military diet" is a hoax? I'm sure you have read the links now.
  • booksandchocolate12
    booksandchocolate12 Posts: 1,741 Member
    edited March 2016
    You might lose 10 pounds in 3 days, but it will be water weight. I don't see how they can possibly guarantee that you won't gain that back. And I don't know how they can say that 1500 is a magic number for everyone. I have to eat less than that to lose weight. You might have to eat less, or you might be able to eat more, and by eating 1500 you might be depriving yourself and getting hungry to the point where you binge.

    And, as others have said, if accurate logging is an issue for you, how will you know that you're eating 1500 or 1800 or 2000?

    But go ahead and try it. I'm sure it'll work out great.
  • Nalgh94
    Nalgh94 Posts: 181 Member
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.
  • Nalgh94
    Nalgh94 Posts: 181 Member
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.

    Many people appreciate hearing the truth. I'd rather be told directly from someone who looked like they knew what they were talking about than given blind support from a faceless cheerleader.

    I know that approach doesn't work for everyone, but it does for many on these forums.
  • Nalgh94
    Nalgh94 Posts: 181 Member
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.

    Many people appreciate hearing the truth. I'd rather be told directly from someone who looked like they knew what they were talking about than given blind support from a faceless cheerleader.

    I know that approach doesn't work for everyone, but it does for many on these forums.

    eh, maybe I just have a different opinion of the way advice should be given. Because at the end of the day we're all trying to accomplish the same goal which is getting healthy
  • LBuehrle8
    LBuehrle8 Posts: 4,044 Member
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.

    Which responses scare you?
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.

    Many people appreciate hearing the truth. I'd rather be told directly from someone who looked like they knew what they were talking about than given blind support from a faceless cheerleader.

    I know that approach doesn't work for everyone, but it does for many on these forums.

    eh, maybe I just have a different opinion of the way advice should be given. Because at the end of the day we're all trying to accomplish the same goal which is getting healthy

    The 3-day military diet is no way to get healthy.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.

    Many people appreciate hearing the truth. I'd rather be told directly from someone who looked like they knew what they were talking about than given blind support from a faceless cheerleader.

    I know that approach doesn't work for everyone, but it does for many on these forums.

    eh, maybe I just have a different opinion of the way advice should be given. Because at the end of the day we're all trying to accomplish the same goal which is getting healthy

    Tone is hard to convey, read everything with a Donald Duck voice. All is good.
  • ClosetBayesian
    ClosetBayesian Posts: 836 Member
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.

    Many people appreciate hearing the truth. I'd rather be told directly from someone who looked like they knew what they were talking about than given blind support from a faceless cheerleader.

    I know that approach doesn't work for everyone, but it does for many on these forums.

    eh, maybe I just have a different opinion of the way advice should be given. Because at the end of the day we're all trying to accomplish the same goal which is getting healthy

    What is the alternative?
  • veganbaum
    veganbaum Posts: 1,865 Member
    Kaelan1995 wrote: »
    Well the pros seem to be that you lose 10 pounds in 3 days without gaining the weight back. The website says that if you eat 1,500 calories a day after the diet, then you will keep the weight off. The main "con" for me is that i'm afraid i will get so hungry that i will eat more than i'm supposed to and gain the weight back. Because my fitness pal recommends around 2,600 calories for me a day and eating 1100 calories less than that probably won't be good for me in the long run. But then again, I've heard that my fitness pal recommends more calories than you're supposed to have a day. And if you read my last post, then you will see that my weight is at a stand still. So i am trying to switch it up and find something that really works for ME.
    Kaelan1995 wrote: »
    Well the pros seem to be that you lose 10 pounds in 3 days without gaining the weight back. The website says that if you eat 1,500 calories a day after the diet, then you will keep the weight off. The main "con" for me is that i'm afraid i will get so hungry that i will eat more than i'm supposed to and gain the weight back. Because my fitness pal recommends around 2,600 calories for me a day and eating 1100 calories less than that probably won't be good for me in the long run. But then again, I've heard that my fitness pal recommends more calories than you're supposed to have a day. And if you read my last post, then you will see that my weight is at a stand still. So i am trying to switch it up and find something that really works for ME.

    I don't think you can really say your weight is at a standstill when you haven't been logging. That's like people saying they're at a "plateau" after a week or two of "not losing," yet they aren't consistently and accurately logging and keep changing things week to week.

    Also, I haven't heard people say MFP recommends more calories than one's supposed to have. What I have seen, time and time again, are people who do not log accurately, who eat back some or all of their exercise calories, and then say they're not losing and they can't with MFP's numbers. But it's their logging that's actually the issue. And, exercise calorie estimations tend to be exaggerated for most people, so it is suggested to start with 50-75% to see how accurate they are for you.

    Log your food. Do that for 4-6 weeks. Reevaluate.
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    edited March 2016
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    synacious wrote: »
    Nalgh94 wrote: »
    Hey
    So I've tried the military diet before and yes everyone we all know it makes perfect sense to log in calories etc but sometimes you feel like you need an extra push and there's nothing wrong inquiring about something you've seen. Anyways, the whole lose 10lbs in 3 days is both unrealistic and does not apply to this diet whatsoever. The most I've lost was 5 lbs and like any other "quick fix" you do gain it back if you go back to old eating habits. I stopped any set diets but every now and then when I hate a plateau I would try something to get me over a hump but nothing over 3 days whether it's a detox, fruit or any kind of fad diet.

    Hope this helps.

    I think the reason why some people, including myself, are being so direct about it is because we are familiar with the OP. Not even 24 hours ago, he made a post about how low-carb didn't work for him and he wants to find a solution. People mentioned counting calories, as it is a huge part of what MFP is about. Now he's posting about another quick-fix diet. It gets a bit frustrating to see after a while. If he'd just actually eat at a deficit and give accurate logging a chance, he'd see results. Period.

    I've seen so many direct responses that have scared me personally from posting any questions, maybe there's some history that I wasn't aware of; I just felt it was a legitimate question as I've been frustrated various times with plateaus even though I stick to calorie counting instead of fad diets now.

    I can appreciate that. However, what scares me more is that losing "10 pounds in three days" on a diet of tiny amounts of things like coffee, fruit, peanut butter, hot dogs, cheese, canned tuna, saltine crackers, and ice cream is more appealing and seems more attainable than a modest calorie deficit while eating whatever food you want to eat. It scares me that people think such a diet will cause a 10 pound loss or a 35,000 calorie deficit in three days. It scares me that a person is posting to ask about it when they have a whole forum of knowledgeable people who've posted wonderful stickied threads that are quite useful. It also scares me that this particular individual seems to be ignoring all the thoughtful advice he's been given for yet another quick fix. I have family members that, despite seeing me successful, still want the quick fixes and don't trust in the calorie deficit.

    I know that I'm very straightforward in my responses to people. I try to be as tactful as possible in my responses, but I am the same way in real life. I am extremely blunt and to the point. I truly do want to help people, but sometimes that takes tough love. Sometimes it takes a "Yes, you are a complete idiot for wanting to starve yourself to lose weight" type of attitude. Because what I dislike is seeing the same people fail time and time again, but never learning from their mistakes. What I dislike even more are the people who are resistant to all advice that actually works because it makes you wonder if they really want this or if they just want more excuses to fall back on. I'm not saying that this is the case regarding the OP, but after seeing it time and time again you just get a little jaded about it.
  • Kaelan1995
    Kaelan1995 Posts: 20 Member
    @Nalgh94 I don't really mind hearing the truth, but like someone said "tone is hard to convey". Sometimes it is hard to tell if someone is just being honest and really trying to help you, or just being rude. There is a fine line. Not saying anyone on here was rude to me at all, but i would like for certain people to give me a more detailed answer instead of saying something short and snappy. Okay, fine, i shouldn't try the military diet.. but tell me why instead of just giving me a short answer that doesn't deter me away from it. Some people did that, so thank you. I have been posting a lot because i REALLY want this weight off.. and i have tried so many times but they never worked out for me. I want this time to be different, so i am just weighing my options on what to do.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Kaelan1995 wrote: »
    @Nalgh94 I don't really mind hearing the truth, but like someone said "tone is hard to convey". Sometimes it is hard to tell if someone is just being honest and really trying to help you, or just being rude. There is a fine line. Not saying anyone on here was rude to me at all, but i would like for certain people to give me a more detailed answer instead of saying something short and snappy. Okay, fine, i shouldn't try the military diet.. but tell me why instead of just giving me a short answer that doesn't deter me away from it. Some people did that, so thank you. I have been posting a lot because i REALLY want this weight off.. and i have tried so many times but they never worked out for me. I want this time to be different, so i am just weighing my options on what to do.

    You could try just reading everything as if it's being said in a calm, even tone and not read intent into people's posts at all. Just take them at face value. It's much easier.
  • Kaelan1995
    Kaelan1995 Posts: 20 Member
    @synacious Definitely not the case with me. I am welcome to any and all advice someone wants to give me. Why do you think i have been posting on here? If i wanted an excuse to stop, i would just stop. Definitely wouldn't seek some kind of excuse like "Oh, nothing is working for me so i might as well just give up". No, i would just binge and eat whatever i felt like eating. I'm posting because i WANT advice from all of you on how to better myself. I know you didn't say that directly about me, just thought i would let you know that i am not one of those people.