New Barbie

amonkey794

It's. A. DOLL.

Who cares what Barbie looks like? Who cares if she's tall and has a tiny waist? She's a DOLL.

I laugh at how people go all over her "unrealistic body proportions". Again, it's a DOLL. I played with Barbie when I was growing up and not once did I ever look at my doll and think "Man. I really wish I looked like her. I mean she's got EVERYTHING! I super hot blonde boyfriend, a really awesome mansion, this cool pink corvette and my goodness! If she wants to rough it in the wilderness she has this awesome camper that's comfy and has all the amenities! I bet it's because of her body. I bet she's a kept woman. Oh how I wish I could be barbie and live in a perfect pink house and drive a pink corvette!"

Barbie was never my role model. Ever. She was a doll that I played with and threw into trees and up onto the roof.

And who are these people who say that Barbie is a 'role model'? I bet if you asked any little girl who their role model is Barbie would not be one of them.

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dmpizza

I think when we started complaining that Barbie was too skinny, we started having an obesity problem.

Mrsallypants

When I was a kid, never knew He-man was on HGH and steroids along with Skeletor and Man-at-arms. I never knew what real humans looked like when growing up besides the ones on cartoons and in wrestling, I mean I never saw my parents, neighbors, other kids, teachers.

Simone_King

AHHHH THEY RUINED HER!

Barbie is forever dead now.

AprilRenewed

It's. A. DOLL.

Who cares what Barbie looks like? Who cares if she's tall and has a tiny waist? She's a DOLL.

I laugh at how people go all over her "unrealistic body proportions". Again, it's a DOLL. I played with Barbie when I was growing up and not once did I ever look at my doll and think "Man. I really wish I looked like her. I mean she's got EVERYTHING! I super hot blonde boyfriend, a really awesome mansion, this cool pink corvette and my goodness! If she wants to rough it in the wilderness she has this awesome camper that's comfy and has all the amenities! I bet it's because of her body. I bet she's a kept woman. Oh how I wish I could be barbie and live in a perfect pink house and drive a pink corvette!"

Barbie was never my role model. Ever. She was a doll that I played with and threw into trees and up onto the roof.

And who are these people who say that Barbie is a 'role model'? I bet if you asked any little girl who their role model is Barbie would not be one of them.

This. /EndThread

I agree with all of this as well. HOWEVER. I believe that now, after media and everything has brought so many girls and women to their knees, begging to be thinner, changing the Barbie may be a good idea.

I never thought much of it as a kid. Ever. But...today is different. And if we're aware of how unrealistic the doll is, why not change it?

QueenE_

It looks like they made a head and put it on Kens body.
I'd rather buy Monster High Dolls. Who doesn't love a monster?! Lol.

amonkey794

It's. A. DOLL.

Who cares what Barbie looks like? Who cares if she's tall and has a tiny waist? She's a DOLL.

I laugh at how people go all over her "unrealistic body proportions". Again, it's a DOLL. I played with Barbie when I was growing up and not once did I ever look at my doll and think "Man. I really wish I looked like her. I mean she's got EVERYTHING! I super hot blonde boyfriend, a really awesome mansion, this cool pink corvette and my goodness! If she wants to rough it in the wilderness she has this awesome camper that's comfy and has all the amenities! I bet it's because of her body. I bet she's a kept woman. Oh how I wish I could be barbie and live in a perfect pink house and drive a pink corvette!"

Barbie was never my role model. Ever. She was a doll that I played with and threw into trees and up onto the roof.

And who are these people who say that Barbie is a 'role model'? I bet if you asked any little girl who their role model is Barbie would not be one of them.

This. /EndThread

I agree with all of this as well. HOWEVER. I believe that now, after media and everything has brought so many girls and women to their knees, begging to be thinner, changing the Barbie may be a good idea.

I never thought much of it as a kid. Ever. But...today is different. And if we're aware of how unrealistic the doll is, why not change it?

REALISTICALLY, woman are all shapes and sizes. We are not all short and think or "bootylicious". Isn't it just as unrealistic, then to tag on ONE shape? Why fix what was never broken?

AprilRenewed

It's. A. DOLL.

Who cares what Barbie looks like? Who cares if she's tall and has a tiny waist? She's a DOLL.

I laugh at how people go all over her "unrealistic body proportions". Again, it's a DOLL. I played with Barbie when I was growing up and not once did I ever look at my doll and think "Man. I really wish I looked like her. I mean she's got EVERYTHING! I super hot blonde boyfriend, a really awesome mansion, this cool pink corvette and my goodness! If she wants to rough it in the wilderness she has this awesome camper that's comfy and has all the amenities! I bet it's because of her body. I bet she's a kept woman. Oh how I wish I could be barbie and live in a perfect pink house and drive a pink corvette!"

Barbie was never my role model. Ever. She was a doll that I played with and threw into trees and up onto the roof.

And who are these people who say that Barbie is a 'role model'? I bet if you asked any little girl who their role model is Barbie would not be one of them.

This. /EndThread

I agree with all of this as well. HOWEVER. I believe that now, after media and everything has brought so many girls and women to their knees, begging to be thinner, changing the Barbie may be a good idea.

I never thought much of it as a kid. Ever. But...today is different. And if we're aware of how unrealistic the doll is, why not change it?

REALISTICALLY, woman are all shapes and sizes. We are not all short and think or "bootylicious". Isn't it just as unrealistic, then to tag on ONE shape? Why fix what was never broken?

That's a good point. If we start making them realistic, where does it end? We'd end up with this one, a pear shape, an apple shape...short, tall...IDK. Guess maybe you're right. But I still like the idea.

MayaSPapaya

I agree with someone else that the new one looks like a lifter :laugh:
I'm all for making her look like a realistic body type, but this new one just looks kind of...strange . Also, most girls who are a normal, healthy body type still don't have that *kitten*.
When I was younger, I had that typical little girl fascination with pretty people. But those were real life people, I never idolized Barbie, though I played with the dolls quite a lot.
Ironically, my favorite one to play with was the pregnant Midge doll. Not the super skinny one.

Katrioustu

I like it a lot. More proportional. I would let my 'future' children play with that doll rather than the one they have right now. It is a disturbing doll they have now being something that no person can ever become.

Mrsallypants

They should just get it over with and do what they really want: that make a doll of Oprah Winfrey or Hillary Clinton to play with.

likitisplit

Also, lifting made her bulky.

LOL

likitisplit

I like it a lot. More proportional. I would let my 'future' children play with that doll rather than the one they have right now. It is a disturbing doll they have now being something that no person can ever become.

I question the logic of having little girls play with a hyper-sexualized pinup too.

likitisplit

I actually like the realistic one better in some ways. I think Barbie could do better to make a more realistic doll. But I don't think THAT realistic is necessary.

I think the face and legs look much better on the realistic doll, Barbie has too flat of legs. But the waist and hips should be slightly more defined. (I can imagine clothes just falling off without a slightly more defined waist).

Also, the designer didn't take into account barbies Pose... Its like looking at someone who's slumping and someone standing with their shoulders back chest forward. Barbie being the later. I think the realistic one would look much better if they had put her in the same pose. Also, Every barbie I ever had had 'high heal' feet... not flat footed.

Also, I want to know what they used as a 'average'. I mean honestly, they don't HAVE to make the doll a rectangle shape, (witch I am but still). It can have a hourglass and not be 'unrealistic'. Also, Who has that kind of butt?

But maybe I'm the only one who looks at it and thinks about how they could of done the demonstration scientifically and artistically better lol.

Edit: To continue on this, The neck on the realistic doll is fine, but her head is faced forward and looks glued in place like Ken (I always hated that), unlike the real barbie who's head can move and in the photos her chin is pointed up.

I kinda agree with the pose. Except, in the 7th picture where they show the profiles, Barbie looks like she's sucking in her stomach and sticking out her boobs whereas the new one looks pretty much like any normal person standing straight.

But I think the "new" Barbie looks so much better, and honestly? My booty kinda looks like that. I'm not perfect, and my thighs tough unlike this Barbie, but I have a pretty flat waist but a booty. Part of it's genetics, but if I didn't do squats and deadlifts and lunges, genetics would have made my butt not only big but flat with giant thighs.

ANYwho, I really think the second barbie, the new one, minus the thighs that still don't touch, looks a lot like I do.

I could definitely relate to the second Barbie as well. Though I think I'm a little taller.

celtbell3

Okay well now I have a problem. If I ever have a daughter no way I'm letting anything with an azz that can compete with mine in this house! It's the only leverage I got in here. There ain't room in this town for two badonk's.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

catrinaHwechanged

Also, I want to know what they used as a 'average'. I mean honestly, they don't HAVE to make the doll a rectangle shape, (witch I am but still). It can have a hourglass and not be 'unrealistic'. Also, Who has that kind of butt?

Well, my butt is not quite new Barbie nice, but it is pretty similar.

k8blujay2

I think she looks depressed... and depressing.

I'd be depressed too if I didn't have a neck. WTF are they thinking? Making her look more like an "average" woman doesn't mean making her look like a freak.

One of the pictures on Shine shows the "realistic" doll with almost a frowning face... almost like one that my mother and grandmother have after years of smoking and stress.



BTW. the artist got the measurements from the CDC.

likitisplit

Maybe one day designers will use those measurements and I'll be able to buy boots that fit my calves.

Capt_Inzane

Just make this and be done with it.

silver_arrow3

Okay well now I have a problem. If I ever have a daughter no way I'm letting anything with an azz that can compete with mine in this house! It's the only leverage I got in here. There ain't room in this town for two badonk's.

I'm definitely jealous of Barbie2's butt. I hope I'm not getting set up with more unrealistic body expectations by this new "improved" Barbie as I did with the original! More squats! :drinker:

legreene515

Barbie 2's butt is amazing! I wish I owned it! :laugh:

OhSnap779

Now, how would this new Barbie make skinny girls feel ( I mean if they really were comparing themselves to a doll.)? Are we trying to say that it is wrong to be skinny? I think we should teach our daughters (well, sons as well) to love themselves and not compare themselves to other people (or dolls), and we shouldn't be telling them that we don't accept skinny people because that's not considered average. What happens if they do make this new Barbie....will we then complain about how she looks too young and needs wrinkles and moles? I say we leave Barbie alone and set our own examples for our kids.

MSeel1984

Okay well now I have a problem. If I ever have a daughter no way I'm letting anything with an azz that can compete with mine in this house! It's the only leverage I got in here. There ain't room in this town for two badonk's.

OH, my gosh, Becky, look at her butt...it is so big.

AprilRenewed

Now, how would this new Barbie make skinny girls feel ( I mean if they really were comparing themselves to a doll.)? Are we trying to say that it is wrong to be skinny? I think we should teach our daughters (well, sons as well) to love themselves and not compare themselves to other people (or dolls), and we shouldn't be telling them that we don't accept skinny people because that's not considered average. What happens if they do make this new Barbie....will we then complain about how she looks too young and needs wrinkles and moles? I say we leave Barbie alone and set our own examples for our kids.

Excellent post. My gut reaction was that this doll was a fantastic idea, but you as well as a few others have convinced me it really wouldn't make a difference. You're absolutely right that WE need to set the example for our daughters. My daughter's biomom is setting a horrible example. She recently has dropped a lot of weight (she wasn't overweight before) and, according to DD, barely eats. Also according to DD, she tells her that she (the mom) is fat and she (DD) is too skinny. Neither of those are good to say, and it drives me nuts. First of all, even if she were overweight, she should not be talking to DD about that! Second of all, DD is very thin, but she's not "too" skinny. She's naturally tall and very slender, but she's healthy. Very. UGH it drives me nuts.

I do, however, think it would still be wonderful if we'd stop showing airbrushed images of models and actors. Let them be real, just like the rest of us. And I REALLY think society as a whole needs to stop sexualizing everything.

Dragn77

Ehhh, I dont know. Most young girls playing with dolls arent curvy and bootilicious. By the time they start to develop, they arent really playing with dolls anymore.

To be honest, I was a rediculously tall and lanky kid...I looked a heck of a lot more like original barbie (sans the breasts of course!) then this new and improved "realistic" Barbie. And like others pointed out, not everyone even has that body shape. Heck, my mom is ridiculously skinny and more like original Barbie than new Barbie. Neither my toys, nor my own mother, influenced how I feel about the body I developed into.

In all fairness though, I played mostly with GI Joes, Transformers and matchbook cars than dolls. And while my own kiddo had a variety of toys, the moment she learned how to read, from about age 4, books were her #1 thing, next to drawing paper and crayons. So the whole issue of toys being the primary source of developing self esteem really hasnt been an issue for me or kiddo. Instead, I have taught her she is so freaking awesome she cant be compared to anyone else, and jsut right the way she is. She's 16 now and still satisfied with that theory.