Squat EVERYDAY
rickyll
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I started the Squat Every Day Program by Cory Gregory yesterday and I'm just looking to get people's opinions on it. Have you done it? What did you think? What were some pros and cons in your opinion?
I'm personally stoked to be doing this program and I'll update my measurements and strength numbers at the end of the 30 days.
Thanks!
I'm personally stoked to be doing this program and I'll update my measurements and strength numbers at the end of the 30 days.
Thanks!
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Personally, I feel doing compound exercises like that every day a bit overboard. I train legs twice a week and squat both those days. Pretty damn happy with my results over three months.0
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Yah I get where you're coming from. It can be really taxing on your central nervous system when it's firing at full force every single day.
I do some form of compound lift everyday already though and I have yet to feel the effects of over-training. In this case, it's what I already do but to the max so I'm not ruling out the possibility that I may burn out before the 30 days are up. I'll just have to listen to my body and take it day-by-day.0 -
It would seem to me that squatting every day won't give your body a chance to recover and rebuild. Muscle growth doesn't happen when you exercise but when you rest. If you're constantly tearing down the muscle, the only opportunity you're giving your body to recover is until your next workout. You can try it and see what happens but it would seem that there are much better ways to really make an impact. Are you looking for strength gains, power or muscle growth?1
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Squatting every day is not good to do, you will risk injury and like others have said it does not give you any recovery time, max of 3 times a week.0
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this makes my knees hurt0
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I would be interested to see/hear your results. I looked up the program to see how it is set up intensity-wise and it looks like you're squatting pretty heavy each day as opposed to a variety of heavy/medium/light days. I'm assuming you'll have to eat a ton to keep that up.0
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I this for about 10 days, working up to a daily minimum and then a daily max, depending on how I felt. By the end of the 10 days my knees and hips took a beating. I would foam roll a lot. This type of training is okay for a short period when your typical workout isn't producing results.0
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Like everyone else said above, I feel that squatting every day is both super unnecessary and can also be bad for the knees. Never personally done it myself but it's such a major compound movement that I couldn't possibly imagine any good coming out of this.0
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I'm personally stoked to be doing this program and I'll update my measurements and strength numbers at the end of the 30 days.
Just listen to your body if you're going to do this. Do not push through knee or hip pain.
IMO, I doubt you're going to see very much increase in strength in 30 days since your muscles are not getting a chance to heal/grow properly and they're not going to be at their max efficiency doing the exercise every day.
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I've been squatting every day (with the odd day off) for about 4 weeks now. Keeping the weight close to 70%-75% for high reps. I've already hit PR's for squat and deadlift without injury. I know that the weight is no where near where you would be, but I don't think squatting everyday is unnecessary. It depends on what your goals are.
Check out Pat Mendes.
'Buffmendes' on Instagram if you haven't already! Been squatting 600lbs every day for the past 6 months!
I would definitely go for it if this will help you reach your goals! But like you said, listen to your body and don't push to the point of injury!0 -
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So have heard about these types of programs, just not this one exactly. So after looking at it briefly, and these are my opinions and thoughts only from first glance of the program, I think its somewhat of a novelty. What I mean is, yes, it has you squatting every day; however, the overall impactful volume of work seems low compared to other structured programs. So while I think it will have an impact on strength, I think due to overall volume, it won't be great for putting on muscle (assuming you are eating toward this goal). So again, for a strength block, it would work "ok" (see second thought)...for a hypertrophy block, not so much.
My other thought about it is, that it has you doing so many variants of squat that you don't really get good at doing one thing. The variants take care of the mitigating fatigue like in a heavy, light, medium structure due to providing variants that will force you to handle less weight, so that is good; however, getting really strong at low bar back squatting (for example) is more neurologically helped with low bar back squatting with frequency. If you throw in 10 other squat variants, you aren't providing enough frequency on the main movement as you are having to also practice all those other movements, thus diluting the effect on the main lift you are wanting to increase strength in.
Again, just my thoughts and opinions on this particular program.0 -
thanks for the feedback everyone. I'm not new to weightlifting so I'm not surprised with the answers I received. I take the necessary precautions to remain safe and effective (stretching, rolling, warm ups) but chance of injury and fatigue is still high so I'll listen to my body and see what happens. Day 2 done today and I felt great! Cheers!0
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So I have done Sheiko-(several times) and I am just finishing the 20 Squat breathing program- where you squat 3 times a week. (this is my 2nd rotation through that program)
Sheiko you squat 2 times a week- but you have 2 completely seperate sessions in lift (i.e.squat bench squat- or squat bench squat bench)- and this program where you do a warm up and then do 1 x 20 progressively adding 5 pounds for 6 weeks or till failure.
It sucks.
I could not imagine literally squatting EVERY single day.
And I love squatting. But there is a point where it becomes counter productive- no rest- no recoup- just doing the same repetitive work every workout. It's probably going to lead to some SI issues- possible knee issues and or random RSI.
But- Good luck- you seem to already have your mind made up so I'm not sure why you even bothered- seems like you were looking for validation more than actual information.
Good luck and let us know how the surgery goes!0 -
I'll be the guinea pig! I'll be updating my stats (measurements, body fat, and PRs) regularly if anyone wants to know if this program is effective or not.0
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I'll just add that if your legs aren't responding, then likely the day you train them, you aren't training them hard enough. Being able to squat everyday, means that the intensity isn't high.
How do I know? Cause at one time my legs really lagged until I REALLY hit them hard 2 times a week. Those 2 days were days I really had to be ready for. Arm day.............not so much.
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So I have done Sheiko-(several times) and I am just finishing the 20 Squat breathing program- where you squat 3 times a week. (this is my 2nd rotation through that program)
Sheiko you squat 2 times a week- but you have 2 completely seperate sessions in lift (i.e.squat bench squat- or squat bench squat bench)- and this program where you do a warm up and then do 1 x 20 progressively adding 5 pounds for 6 weeks or till failure.
It sucks.
I could not imagine literally squatting EVERY single day.
And I love squatting. But there is a point where it becomes counter productive- no rest- no recoup- just doing the same repetitive work every workout. It's probably going to lead to some SI issues- possible knee issues and or random RSI.
But- Good luck- you seem to already have your mind made up so I'm not sure why you even bothered- seems like you were looking for validation more than actual information.
Good luck and let us know how the surgery goes!
I was more looking for people that had done it before or are currently doing it to see how they feel/felt about it. I'm open to anything so if half-way I decide that yes, everyone who answered this thread is right, and this isn't such a good idea, then I'll stop. In fact, there is no one on this thread that I haven't agreed with, including you. But as I've stated before, I know what I'm doing and I'm not a beginner so I'm gonna test this out. I appreciate the nice little passive aggressive jab at the end.0 -
I've read about this program. I unfortunately don't have time to lift everyday... I'm following to see what you think of the program and wish you great gains
I just finished smolov squat program which is 4 days a week very heavy. Might be something to look into if your looking for big gains. I went from a 1RM of 175 to 205 in 3 weeks while pregnant! 0 -
The thing about this is that it seems to be driven by a lack of understanding of muscle growth. Muscles don't grow in the gym. They grow AFTER the workout when you're giving them proper recovery. Squatting every day, unless you're on the juice, is a terrible idea.0
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Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.0 -
Let us know how it goes. The program isn't meant to last forever (and you're not going balls to the wall every day (if memory serves me correctly) so I'd think recovery would be okay.
Anecdotally, the most often I've squatted is 3 days a week but I liked the progress I made during that time. My strongest bench was also during 3-day a week program. I'm curious to see your results.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.
No doubt and agree with you, but to offer Max as an example, needs some perspective context for the OP. Max was under the supervision of two of the world's premier weight lifting coaches (Steve Gough and Ivan Abadjiev) during this time and this was Max's job; so most, if not all of his other life variables, revolved around his lifting.0 -
Man, that would be the life. Lifting as your job. Its too bad M.F.A's can't provide that.nakedraygun wrote: »Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.
No doubt and agree with you, but to offer Max as an example, needs some perspective context for the OP. Max was under the supervision of two of the world's premier weight lifting coaches (Steve Gough and Ivan Abadjiev) during this time and this was Max's job; so most, if not all of his other life variables, revolved around his lifting.
Hindsight.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.
No doubt and agree with you, but to offer Max as an example, needs some perspective context for the OP. Max was under the supervision of two of the world's premier weight lifting coaches (Steve Gough and Ivan Abadjiev) during this time and this was Max's job; so most, if not all of his other life variables, revolved around his lifting.
You don't need professional supervision to make it work, but I agree with nakedraygun that you have to be reasonable and conservative with your intensity. I have done very high frequency, including benching and squatting heavy 5 days a week for about a month at a time. I made some really nice strength gains while doing it. If your auto-regulation sucks, you will burn out quickly.0 -
I had asked about this program and if anyone was running it a few months ago on these boards. I ultimately decided against it and I was only planning on running it 4 - 6 weeks.nakedraygun wrote: »Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.
No doubt and agree with you, but to offer Max as an example, needs some perspective context for the OP. Max was under the supervision of two of the world's premier weight lifting coaches (Steve Gough and Ivan Abadjiev) during this time and this was Max's job; so most, if not all of his other life variables, revolved around his lifting.
You don't need professional supervision to make it work, but I agree with nakedraygun that you have to be reasonable and conservative with your intensity. I have done very high frequency, including benching and squatting heavy 5 days a week for about a month at a time. I made some really nice strength gains while doing it. If your auto-regulation sucks, you will burn out quickly.
When I was questioned what I was going to do after I had accumulated all that volume and how would I introduce a new training stimulus I was stumped. (Other than taking a month off.) Therefore, I went in another direction, still adding more volume/frequency, and that I could run concurrently with 5/3/1 and as an amateur "competitive" powerlifter.
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nakedraygun wrote: »Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.
No doubt and agree with you, but to offer Max as an example, needs some perspective context for the OP. Max was under the supervision of two of the world's premier weight lifting coaches (Steve Gough and Ivan Abadjiev) during this time and this was Max's job; so most, if not all of his other life variables, revolved around his lifting.
You don't need professional supervision to make it work, but I agree with nakedraygun that you have to be reasonable and conservative with your intensity. I have done very high frequency, including benching and squatting heavy 5 days a week for about a month at a time. I made some really nice strength gains while doing it. If your auto-regulation sucks, you will burn out quickly.
Not saying in general you do and even said I agreed with him. Again, the example he referenced was Max Aita who did it for 13 years, so I offered the context on which HE (Max) was able to do it.0 -
I squat 100 times daily M-F and appreciate the occasions to rest and recuperate such micro injuries as I may have introduced during my SS rest days. Your program will be effective. I just do it at 243 lb body weight.0
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Max is an example of in extremis (of course) and as you rightly pointed out he had great coaching to accompany on him on that odyssey. Either the OP will be able to do this, or he won't --it's not rocket surgery after all. He'll know.nakedraygun wrote: »Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.
No doubt and agree with you, but to offer Max as an example, needs some perspective context for the OP. Max was under the supervision of two of the world's premier weight lifting coaches (Steve Gough and Ivan Abadjiev) during this time and this was Max's job; so most, if not all of his other life variables, revolved around his lifting.
You don't need professional supervision to make it work, but I agree with nakedraygun that you have to be reasonable and conservative with your intensity. I have done very high frequency, including benching and squatting heavy 5 days a week for about a month at a time. I made some really nice strength gains while doing it. If your auto-regulation sucks, you will burn out quickly.
Not saying in general you do and even said I agreed with him. Again, the example he referenced was Max Aita who did it for 13 years, so I offered the context on which HE (Max) was able to do it.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »
I had asked about this program and if anyone was running it a few months ago on these boards. I ultimately decided against it and I was only planning on running it 4 - 6 weeks.nakedraygun wrote: »Max Aita claims he squatted every day for 13 years or something and that dude can move the serious weight and move it raw.
Currently I squat 3 to 4 times a week with bench press (or will again when my chest injury heals -- not related to benching) and my squats (as well as my bench) have never been stronger or more precise.
That groove is greased and greased well.
Trick is in knowing how to alter intensity. If you can't/don't know how, then you may want to reconsider.
No doubt and agree with you, but to offer Max as an example, needs some perspective context for the OP. Max was under the supervision of two of the world's premier weight lifting coaches (Steve Gough and Ivan Abadjiev) during this time and this was Max's job; so most, if not all of his other life variables, revolved around his lifting.
You don't need professional supervision to make it work, but I agree with nakedraygun that you have to be reasonable and conservative with your intensity. I have done very high frequency, including benching and squatting heavy 5 days a week for about a month at a time. I made some really nice strength gains while doing it. If your auto-regulation sucks, you will burn out quickly.
When I was questioned what I was going to do after I had accumulated all that volume and how would I introduce a new training stimulus I was stumped. (Other than taking a month off.) Therefore, I went in another direction, still adding more volume/frequency, and that I could run concurrently with 5/3/1 and as an amateur "competitive" powerlifter.
I didn't run the program in question, but my approach was very similar. I was not focused on powerlifting, so when I was finished, I went on a strictly low-weight hypertrophy program to let my joints have a break.0
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