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Keto VS Paleo
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@shell1005 no need to get sassy. I genuinely didn't know. That's why it was a question. I was simply confused and now I am not. Thank you
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@cwolfman13 ah I gotcha! That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for explaining it. I'm thinking I should add in more carbs than what I have been or just play around with my diet until I find a way that works for me.0
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I haven't tried Paleo.
I think, for me, Keto is more economical. Also, I like cheese and butter. Like, like-like.
I can also see myself going off the deep end with sweet potatoes (I already have to be very careful around almonds.)
But I think both can work just lovely depending on the person. Keto fits my level of "self control."0 -
I couldn't do Paleo, I love dairy too much and will never give it up.0
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Keto for me is amazing. I don't feel like I'm restricting. It's hard to get over the mind set of fats like mayonnaise and sour cream and ranch okay but the other stuff is great. I was already low carb so I didn't get the Keto flu feeling but I do have headache or dizzy every once in awhile it's so to increased blood to the brain. This is good though good brain health. Look up pod cast fit2fat2fit Keto segment. Good info. Paleo was so much work and restriction and not very good results for me. With Keto so far I'm down 5 solid pounds in two weeks which in paleo for 1 year I lost 2 pounds0
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sweatinginpearls wrote: »sweatinginpearls wrote: »@cwolfman13 do you think it's because you're a male? I only ask this because I've notice the way women and men lose weight are differently. Men require more calories than women right? So wouldn't restricting your carbs do more harm than good solely because you're a man? If that's ignorant of me I'm sorry - I'm genuinely curious
Men and women lose weight the same weight....by eating less than they burn.
After I asked the question I researched and found that because men have more muscle man than us women they lose about 20 more calories than women by doing nothing. If a man was to restrict the same amount of calories and and did the same thing as a woman he would lose more weight.
Every person has a different amount of muscularity. That tends to change the rate they burn calories at rest, but not how they burn them. The metabolic reactions are the same, just more of them going on.
True. Developing more and healthier mitochondria can also increase calorie burn rate.
bscb.org/learning-resources/softcell-e-learning/mitochondrion-much-more-than-an-energy-converter/0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »sweatinginpearls wrote: »sweatinginpearls wrote: »@cwolfman13 do you think it's because you're a male? I only ask this because I've notice the way women and men lose weight are differently. Men require more calories than women right? So wouldn't restricting your carbs do more harm than good solely because you're a man? If that's ignorant of me I'm sorry - I'm genuinely curious
Men and women lose weight the same weight....by eating less than they burn.
After I asked the question I researched and found that because men have more muscle man than us women they lose about 20 more calories than women by doing nothing. If a man was to restrict the same amount of calories and and did the same thing as a woman he would lose more weight.
Every person has a different amount of muscularity. That tends to change the rate they burn calories at rest, but not how they burn them. The metabolic reactions are the same, just more of them going on.
True. Developing more and healthier mitochondria can also increase calorie burn rate.
bscb.org/learning-resources/softcell-e-learning/mitochondrion-much-more-than-an-energy-converter/
Healthier mitochondria would generally have less cellular leakage, and would actually probably reduce one's metabolic burn rate, though they would potentially increase the maximum burn rate, meaning they'd allow greater exercise performance.0 -
I eat a mostly Paleo version of Keto. I don't tolerate dairy well other than butter and the occasional teeny bit of Greek Yogurt (I like Siggis Plain full fat, it's got a very low carb count for whole food yogurt, only 4g, and I'll eat some as a treat sometimes if it fits my carb budget for the day). I also use stevia and monk fruit, which some Paleo purists think are the devil, but idgaf, I do what I want.
For the headaches and imbalances, I recommend taking a high quality multivitamin, one sourced from real foods, as well as drinking some bone broth. Pacific Foods makes little single serve cartons of Chicken bone broth and it's great for replenishing lost electrolytes.
I also keep some MiO Sport (which, yes, I know this has artificial sweeteners in it, and is no where near Paleo) in my gym bag as it's a no cal, no carb alternative for Gatorade, which I use very sparingly.
During my Keto induction, I got tired more, and couldn't run as much, but once I became Keto adapted, I felt like a million bucks and was able to workout longer and attempt more difficult routines. But as with anything, all bodies are different, and YMMV.
Also, it seems to be the only thing that'll keep my skin clear. A few years ago, I was HCLF strict Vegan for about two years, and although I was very thin, my skin looked like hell. I got diagnosed with Celiac and Pernicious Anemia (due to extremely low B vitamin levels) and I went back to eating meat.0 -
Not sure how long I've been in ketosis, maybe two or three weeks but I went through the KETO rash and the headache, that's all past and now I have crazy dry mouth and short of breath! I've read from other people need Powerade but I can't seem to find the right website that caters to this or gives you the right info to help you figure out what you need? Any other info or ideas? Please add me if you would like.0
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Raerising78 wrote: »Not sure how long I've been in ketosis, maybe two or three weeks but I went through the KETO rash and the headache, that's all past and now I have crazy dry mouth and short of breath! I've read from other people need Powerade but I can't seem to find the right website that caters to this or gives you the right info to help you figure out what you need? Any other info or ideas? Please add me if you would like.
maybe just try losing weight with a calorie deficit and get off the carbs are bad train?3 -
@Raerising78, are you a member of the Low Carb group here? There might be some better answers for you there.
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Raerising78 wrote: »Not sure how long I've been in ketosis, maybe two or three weeks but I went through the KETO rash and the headache, that's all past and now I have crazy dry mouth and short of breath! I've read from other people need Powerade but I can't seem to find the right website that caters to this or gives you the right info to help you figure out what you need? Any other info or ideas? Please add me if you would like.
How's your salt intake. Are you prone to low blood pressure ?
Nobody needs Powerade.
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Raerising78 wrote: »Not sure how long I've been in ketosis, maybe two or three weeks but I went through the KETO rash and the headache, that's all past and now I have crazy dry mouth and short of breath! I've read from other people need Powerade but I can't seem to find the right website that caters to this or gives you the right info to help you figure out what you need? Any other info or ideas? Please add me if you would like.
How's your salt intake. Are you prone to low blood pressure ?
Nobody needs Powerade.
Of course not, they're doing keto. They need Powerade ... ZERO.0 -
I've done Paleo and it sucked for me. If I was forced to go Keto, I'd kill myself or someone else so it wouldn't be healthy for anyone....
I'll stick to the diet that gives more proven results here than anything.... Flexible dieting.4 -
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I don't know anyone on keto who drinks PowerAde.
I know of Keto redditors who make their own "ketoade." But I am a big proponent of plain ol' bouillon. But I found improvement drinking it before workouts even before I went keto when I realized mostly people aren't covered in a white layer of salt after running.1 -
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I think Keto is great for weight loss and cutting and for those who need to stay on it for medical reasons, and Paleo is good for maintaining, or gaining healthy weight even. 0
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Fitnessqt27 wrote: »I think Keto is great for weight loss and cutting and for those who need to stay on it for medical reasons, and Paleo is good for maintaining, or gaining healthy weight even.
You can lose, gain or maintain on either or any diet. You lose if you are in a caloric deficit. You gain weight if you are in a caloric surplus. You maintain if you balance the calories in and calories out.
All of those things can and have been done on any kind of diet or way of eating.
And to add to that, the size of your caloric surplus combined with your training plan will determine fat vs muscle gain...0 -
Fitnessqt27 wrote: »I think Keto is great for weight loss and cutting and for those who need to stay on it for medical reasons, and Paleo is good for maintaining, or gaining healthy weight even.
Neither is necessary for weight loss or gain1 -
Diet's are not sustainable, lifestyles are.0
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Yes, it's normal for your appetite to decrease as your metabolism starts to heal. As you're going through this healing process of getting off the insulin/blood sugar roller coaster, it's important to stay hydrated and keep your electrolytes balanced by eating plenty of salt and getting enough potassium. Remember that your body isn't retaining water like it used to. Look up low carb sources of potassium. There are lots of them, including meat and seafood. Be careful with supplements and potassium salts, because too much can be more dangerous than not enough.0
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One might heal from metabolic syndrome, by experiencing improved glucose sensitivity.0
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lithezebra wrote: »One might heal from metabolic syndrome, by experiencing improved glucose sensitivity.
Wouldn't be correct to call that "metabolism healing," however.
I'm insulin sensitive (i.e., have no insulin problems), and it has zero to do with my metabolism.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »One might heal from metabolic syndrome, by experiencing improved glucose sensitivity.
Wouldn't be correct to call that "metabolism healing," however.
I'm insulin sensitive (i.e., have no insulin problems), and it has zero to do with my metabolism.
Why do you think that insulin has nothing to do with metabolism? The functionality of your insulin and insulin receptors is part of your metabolism, and a very important part. Metabolism is a broad term that covers all of the chemical processes involved in breaking food down and using components from food for growth, maintenance and healing of the body's cells, tissues, and organs.0 -
Flexible dieting works for me. I don't need to fads3
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