April 2016 Running Challenge
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At 19! Goal to go: 5. Was going to go Monday, you know, to run with Boston, but it was raining. Yep. When you live in the boonies, you don't want to sink in the mud.
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01/04 4 miles
04/04 5 miles
05/04 4 miles
06/04 4 miles
08/04 5 miles
09/04 4 miles
11/04 4 miles
13/04 4 miles
14/04 5miles
16/04 4miles
19/04 6.25 miles
20/04 4miles
@5BeautifulDays - yours posts make me laugh (in a good way!)
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Random thought of the afternoon. Thinking about starting a separate discussion to log/journal my training for my first HM. With Training starting next Tuesday0
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@MNLittleFinn I keep notes in my Garmin activities for each run, as well as a paper log. I find it useful to have more extensive personal notes that have more info than I think is necessary to share on a public forum; I doubt everyone cares about what I wore and when I ate gels
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kristinegift wrote: »@MNLittleFinn I keep notes in my Garmin activities for each run, as well as a paper log. I find it useful to have more extensive personal notes that have more info than I think is necessary to share on a public forum; I doubt everyone cares about what I wore and when I ate gels And a paper log is nice to flip through to reflect on training.
Yeah, I note everything in Garmin too. Thinking about starting a paper log too...something nice about writing.0 -
Only did 3 miles today. Set out without a real distance goal and was having trouble getting into a groove. Decided last minute to just do some hill repeats on a fairly steep but short hill--not ideal, but better than just heading back to the office.
I'm thinking I may need to take some time off again. I'm now having pain in my right leg (opposite from my normal gimpy leg). It feels reminiscent of the stress fracture I had back in February, again in the fibula area--just on the other leg. Hurts less when I run, but is painful to the touch and hurts when walking, particularly at the back of the stride. I may mention it when I go back to my ortho on May 5th, if it's not better by then. Though I hate to seem like a whiner--always coming up with a new problem: first it was the stress fracture in my left leg. Once that was fixed, I was still complaining of ankle pain and was diagnosed with os trigonum. I mean...I know there are legit things wrong with me--I'm not just some hypochondriac--but I feel a little ridiculous with all these pain complaints.
Tomorrow is a spin day, so that will give the lower leg some rest. We'll see how I feel on Friday and decide for sure then if I'm going to run or not. Guessing the answer will be not. I'd rather go ahead and take time off now than have to get put in a boot again.
I'm at 31.2 miles for the month (so, definitely not like I've been boosting mileage or intensity significantly).
PS- Speaking of the os trigonum thing: I called the ortho because the medication he put me on didn't seem to be helping. They suggested I double the dose and try that for a week. So far, all the higher dose has done is make me sleepy, nauseated, and a little dizzy. Not to mention the 15 POUNDS I've gained since I started taking the drug a little over 2 weeks ago. Guess I'll go ahead and finish out the week, as they requested, but, even if the double dose helps my symptoms, I don't think it's going to be an acceptable long term solution for me.1 -
I totally get it @ceciliaslater! That medicine sounds evil too.0
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@MobyCarp I watched the race off and on as the elite men started, I forgot the elite women started earlier. The initial reports, as I remember it, they were saying it was ideal race conditions with temps in the mid-upper 60's, expected highs in the low 70's with a mild breeze. I thought that was a bit warm even for me running a much shorter distance. But, figured maybe humidity was different than what I'm familiar with.
They compared the temps to the L.A Olympic qualifying full. Again, how it was so much better.
It was only once the elites and other athletes begain to drop and lag times were noted from last year or their qualifying races, that the claim of warm temps were hindering the best performances. One elite female droped at the 5 mile mark. The temp was 72 the first time I heard mention of it being warm. The elite men couldn't have been too far out, maybe the last 3-5 miles.
I have one other aquaintance that ran it. Hes fast and young, 28 ish. 6:45-7:00 pace ultras. He finished 3:18-3:23. And he set his Strava run on private (or deleted it). I commented on it, congratulated him. Idk what happened. He wasn't ready/willing to share the details. Probably processing it all.
Seem it was a challenge this year. I believe you were well trained, but then I see all the miles and discipline you share. I've yet to see anyone claim that they had a beast of a run. I'm sure recounts from the elites will be shared soon, if they haven't already.
My dentist ran it too, but I won't see him for a few months. But if I "run" in to him, I'll inquire. He's run it many times.
Thank you for this report. That makes some sense of what I experienced. In real time, I didn't notice it being hot or humid. Afterward, people told me there were lots of problems with heat. *shrug* Since yesterday, I've learned that two marathon runners I know ended up in the medical tent and hospital with problems that appear to be partially weather related. And these are people with more marathon experience than I have.
But I didn't know any of that when I crossed the finish line. I only knew how I felt and how I did compared to my goals.1 -
greenolivetree wrote: »Decided last night I'm bowing out for April. After Monday's easy run, my knee flared up again and I developed a stabbing pain in my rear (sit bone area). So at least 12 days off and I'll see if I can start up again in May. Right now I'm sick of pain and it's starting to interfere with the rest of my life
Maybe I can get this under control and keep moving forward without a huge break from running like the 8 weeks I had to take last Nov/Dec.
One of the hardest things for most runners to learn is when to take time off. Hope you caught this soon enough to keep the couch time brief.0 -
WhatMeRunning wrote: »
Well, my wife mentioned last week when they had Friday off of school that she was sure they were off on Tuesday as well, but I had not heard anything. So she looked at the school calendar online and it showed it as an off day. Turns out she later learned that they removed that off day on Tuesday and shortened the school year by a day but did not update the online calendar. She says she told me so I should have known (that has been known to happen), but I went ahead and shut off my alarms for Tuesday morning so I could sleep in until late like 5am or maybe even go crazy and sleep in until 6am, whenever I finally woke up basically. Then my 16 year old son woke me at 6:04 saying we were running late. When I reminded him there was no school both he and my wife let me know I was crazy and they did indeed have school.skippygirlsmom wrote: »WhatMeRunning wrote: »Due to a miscommunication about whether or not the kids had school this morning I did not get my morning run in. So I fit in a lunch time 4 mile run.:
Strava is giving me too much info. I wondered by your run's title of "Lunch Run" why you weren't dodging spiders and vampires and cougars in the dark.
I'm trying to figure out how you do or don't know your kids have school
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April Running Totals (miles)
4/1 – scheduled rest day
4/2 – 13.31 easy
4/3 – 7.83 easy
4/4 – 4.59 easy 30 minutes + 4 strides
4/5 – 14.14 warm up + speed work
4/6 – 5.18 easy
4/7 – 11.45 – short warmup, long speed work
4/8 – scheduled rest day
4/9 – 7.30 speed work
4/10 – 11.67 easy
4/11 – 3.87 easy
4/12 – 7.78 warm up, speed work, cool down, commute
4/13 – 3.92 easy
4/14 – 7.30 warmup + light speed work
4/15 – 3.86 easy
4/16 – travel day, no running
4/17 – 2.70 very easy
4/18 – 26.39 Boston Marathon (couldn’t' run good tangents)
4/19 – travel day, no running
4/20 – 4.05 recovery run
April total to date – 135.34
Nominal Challenge Goal – 200 miles
Real Goals: Taper well. Arrive at Hopkinton healthy. Run Boston well. Recover well.
Today's notes – The focus right now is on recovery. I didn't feel as bad this morning as I did two days after Buffalo, but going down stairs still made me want to grab the rail. Rushed through breakfast a bit because I had a 7:30 AM appointment for car service, made on the theory that the Boston trip would get me close enough to 75,000 miles to be on schedule for that service. 74,082 will have to be close enough.
Ended up deciding this would be a convenient time to replace the tires, as well. That would add some time, so I took the shuttle home to wait. Had some healthier food than was easily available at the dealer, bought the race pictures package, made my Facebook album, had lunch, and checked on the car. There was a delay, but I spent most of it doing stuff I wanted to do anyway.
By this time, I was feeling good enough that I decided to use the commute back to the dealer for a recovery run. That would be about as fast as waiting for the shuttle to come get me and riding back. I started out way slow, and got up to the middle of my easy range by 2 miles. Endured an expected long wait at a stoplight halfway there, and the rest of the run was uneventful other than my internal musings on how the various body parts felt.
If my ankles tried to talk to me, I couldn't hear them over how loudly my calves were shouting. My quads threw in some moderately loud complaints, but by mile three the calves and the left quads felt normal, while the right quads had toned way down. By the time I got to the dealer, pretty much everything felt normal. That's why it's called a recovery run. (It's pure semantic chance that I used it to recover my car.)
Time for a goal check.
Taper well: I stuck to the plan very well the week before Boston, and it worked. Grade A.
Arrive at Hopkinton healthy: I had those ankle issues, and they bothered me a little off and on right up till I got to Athlete's village. They haven't bothered me since, go figure. Grade A-.
Run Boston well: Y'all have seen the reports. I thought I'd done poorly until I saw how the entire field did. I finished 33rd out of 993 finishers in my age group, at the 96th percentile. I finished 5,685th out of 26,639 total runners, at the 78th percentile. I missed my time goals, but I finished the race well ahead of where I was seeded. Grade B+. I'd give myself an A if I had managed to run the entire race. I'm rather proud of running all the hills in Newton; I didn't count how many of the people I passed were walking.
Recover well: In progress, but seems to be going well. I will not set a time goal for Flower City, I'll just take whatever the day gives me. If I have to hang out with my friend Jim who is pacing 1:40, I'll live with a 1:40 finish. Jim is a metronome, and he can bring that race in within one minute of the pacing goal time.
Nominal 200 mile goal: I expect to hit it, but it really isn't that important. Recovering well so I can keep running is far more important, and if I need to back off to below 200 miles in a month that's okay.
2016 races:
January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY)
May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY)
June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY)
July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hilton, NY)
September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
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Got a pleasant surprise when checking out my race number for the Pittsburgh marathon and discovered I was assigned bib #666. I think the costume pretty much takes care of itself, as I ordered my usual race shoe model in bright red in my size, along with some red dri fit shorts, a red dri fit shirt, some flashing LED devil horn ears, and a tail I can attach to my fuel belt. Not sure I'll be able to grow a goatee in time, but I'll see what can do on that front.
Anyhow, got in 7.5 miles today as I did 2 earlier this morning to meet a friend at the wrong time, then did 5.5 with him once we got things straightened out. Still, as I'm getting closer to my race, I've been doing a few more runs around my marathon heart rate, and it looks like I'll be somewhere between a 7:15 and 7:30 based on a few test runs. I'll dial it in a bit more at some marathon pace runs this weekend, pray for good weather, then call the audible to either join the 3:15 or 3:10 pace group on the morning of the race.
4/1 - 0.5 mile
4/2 - 6.5 miles
4/3 - 20 miles
4/5 - 4 miles
4/6 - 8 miles
4/8 - 2 miles
4/10 - 13.1 miles (Ironman Florida 70.3, 1:40:14 run, 5:07 total time)
4/13 - 9 miles
4/14 - 21.5 miles
4/15 - 7 miles
4/17 - 13.5 miles
4/18 - 6.5 miles
4/19 - 8 miles
4/20 - 7.5 miles
Total: 127 miles
Goal: 160 miles
Remaining: 33 miles
Upcoming races:
5/1 - Pittsburgh Marathon
9/25 - Ironman 70.3 Augusta
10/9 - Chicago Marathon (lottery TBD)
11/5 - Ironman Florida6 -
@MobyCarp It's been awesome reading your updates on training for Boston, and your very honest assessments of how you feel you did at the race and recovering. It's funny to say, but your running Boston and all you wrote about it, are why I moved up my plan to run my first HM by 2 months. Not in your league, but taking my first steps into LD racing.1
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Date Miles today. Miles for April
4/1 REST DAY
4/2 14.3 miles - 14.3 <<< 13.1 HM + 1.2 warmup
4/3 REST DAY
4/4 4.2 miles - 18.5 << will try and get a second lunch time run in
4/4 4.0 miles - 22.5 << daily double, 3E +1HMP
4/5 8 miles - 30.5
4/6 4.2 miles - 34.7 << easy recovery 4 (taper week)
4/7 6 miles - 40.7
4/8 5 miles - 45.7
4/9 3.3 miles - 49
4/10 14.2 miles - 63.2 << 13.1 + 1.1 w/u
4/11 6.2 miles - 69.4
4/12 9 miles - 78.4
4/12 6.2 miles - 84.6 << daily double
4/13 6.2 miles - 90.8
4/14 9.6 miles - 100.4
4/14 6.2 miles - 106.6 << daily double
4/15 6.2 miles - 112.8 << recovery run
4/16 16 miles - 128.8 << LSD run with a fast finish
4/17 REST DAY
4/18 10.5 miles 139.3
4/19 8 miles 147.3 << Tempo pace for a few miles
4/19 6.2 miles 153.5 << daily double
4/20 6.2 miles - 159.7
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25
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rest day today - back at it tomorrow. that's enough rest.
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@MobyCarp I watched the race off and on as the elite men started, I forgot the elite women started earlier. The initial reports, as I remember it, they were saying it was ideal race conditions with temps in the mid-upper 60's, expected highs in the low 70's with a mild breeze. I thought that was a bit warm even for me running a much shorter distance. But, figured maybe humidity was different than what I'm familiar with.
They compared the temps to the L.A Olympic qualifying full. Again, how it was so much better.
It was only once the elites and other athletes begain to drop and lag times were noted from last year or their qualifying races, that the claim of warm temps were hindering the best performances. One elite female droped at the 5 mile mark. The temp was 72 the first time I heard mention of it being warm. The elite men couldn't have been too far out, maybe the last 3-5 miles.
I have one other aquaintance that ran it. Hes fast and young, 28 ish. 6:45-7:00 pace ultras. He finished 3:18-3:23. And he set his Strava run on private (or deleted it). I commented on it, congratulated him. Idk what happened. He wasn't ready/willing to share the details. Probably processing it all.
Seem it was a challenge this year. I believe you were well trained, but then I see all the miles and discipline you share. I've yet to see anyone claim that they had a beast of a run. I'm sure recounts from the elites will be shared soon, if they haven't already.
My dentist ran it too, but I won't see him for a few months. But if I "run" in to him, I'll inquire. He's run it many times.
Thank you for this report. That makes some sense of what I experienced. In real time, I didn't notice it being hot or humid. Afterward, people told me there were lots of problems with heat. *shrug* Since yesterday, I've learned that two marathon runners I know ended up in the medical tent and hospital with problems that appear to be partially weather related. And these are people with more marathon experience than I have.
But I didn't know any of that when I crossed the finish line. I only knew how I felt and how I did compared to my goals.
Your welcome. RW had a bit covering Hayle's win. It mentioned that the odd temperature change were the cause of so many muscle cramps.
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Got a pleasant surprise when checking out my race number for the Pittsburgh marathon and discovered I was assigned bib #666. I think the costume pretty much takes care of itself, as I ordered my usual race shoe model in bright red in my size, along with some red dri fit shorts, a red dri fit shirt, some flashing LED devil horn ears, and a tail I can attach to my fuel belt. Not sure I'll be able to grow a goatee in time, but I'll see what can do on that front.
That's so awesome! Glad you're not spooked by it.0 -
@Ohhim Cool costume to match the bib number! Maybe you can glue on a face goatee to complete it
@ceciliaslater Oh no, even more pain, that's really horrible. And the medicine doesn't sound very helpful either. I hope some rest and maybe a different medication will fix things!
@greenolivetree Sorry to read about your problems as well. Rest sounds like a good idea, hope all will be better again in May!
A collection of some nice race signs: http://runhaven.com/2015/02/02/favorite-marathon-signs-part-3/
I like #16, #20 and #38 - but my absolute favourite is #28
Maybe I could have needed some race signs to speed me up today. I ran some zombie chases with the Zombies Run app (my preferred form of interval training), and I got caught twice! I was so sure I was running fast enough - I sped much much more than usual for the last one, after they hordes had caughted me once, but the zoms were freakishly fast tonight. After a streak of at least 60 successful chases in a row since the beginning of the year, that's really bugging me, probably more than it should. But then again, that evil app wouldn't be nearly as motivating if I didn't take it serious - next when it's time for interval training, these zoms are going to eat dust!
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_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »@Ohhim Cool costume to match the bib number! Maybe you can glue on a face goatee to complete it
@ceciliaslater Oh no, even more pain, that's really horrible. And the medicine doesn't sound very helpful either. I hope some rest and maybe a different medication will fix things!
@greenolivetree Sorry to read about your problems as well. Rest sounds like a good idea, hope all will be better again in May!
A collection of some nice race signs: http://runhaven.com/2015/02/02/favorite-marathon-signs-part-3/
I like #16, #20 and #38 - but my absolute favourite is #28
Maybe I could have needed some race signs to speed me up today. I ran some zombie chases with the Zombies Run app (my preferred form of interval training), and I got caught twice! I was so sure I was running fast enough - I sped much much more than usual for the last one, after they hordes had caughted me once, but the zoms were freakishly fast tonight. After a streak of at least 60 successful chases in a row since the beginning of the year, that's really bugging me, probably more than it should. But then again, that evil app wouldn't be nearly as motivating if I didn't take it serious - next when it's time for interval training, these zoms are going to eat dust!
Haha! Wow! Sounds crazy fun. Maybe the app just decided that you were due motivation.0 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »@MobyCarp It's been awesome reading your updates on training for Boston, and your very honest assessments of how you feel you did at the race and recovering. It's funny to say, but your running Boston and all you wrote about it, are why I moved up my plan to run my first HM by 2 months. Not in your league, but taking my first steps into LD racing.
FYI, long distance is anything over 5 km, according to wikipedia
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Amazon just delivered a new Garmin running watch....(my first one)....
so I guess it's time for me to jump back in.... I stopped running and started doing a boot camp 4-5 days a week. Going to mix 3 days of running back in. Two short days and a long day.
I'll be joining the May challenge...7 -
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Amazon just delivered a new Garmin running watch....(my first one)....
so I guess it's time for me to jump back in.... I stopped running and started doing a boot camp 4-5 days a week. Going to mix 3 days of running back in. Two short days and a long day.
I'll be joining the May challenge...
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Yeah, I know that. I just always have thought that it seemed short to be actual long distance.AdrianChr92 wrote: »FYI, long distance is anything over 5 km, according to wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-distance_running
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AdrianChr92 wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »@MobyCarp It's been awesome reading your updates on training for Boston, and your very honest assessments of how you feel you did at the race and recovering. It's funny to say, but your running Boston and all you wrote about it, are why I moved up my plan to run my first HM by 2 months. Not in your league, but taking my first steps into LD racing.
FYI, long distance is anything over 5 km, according to wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-distance_running
Made my day. Well, I also ate a bag of marshmallows, soo
it might be the sugar. 3 -
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »
I'm easing in, so I got a Forerunner 220. The GPS on my phone isn't working correctly and the Apple Store couldn't figure out what's wrong. I didn't want to buy a whole new phone or drop $299 for a replacement, so I opted for a watch instead....3 -
Nice! I have a 230, not much different, I love mine.MNLittleFinn wrote: »I'm easing in, so I got a Forerunner 220. The GPS on my phone isn't working correctly and the Apple Store couldn't figure out what's wrong. I didn't want to buy a whole new phone or drop $299 for a replacement, so I opted for a watch instead....0 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »
Haha! I have a half Sunday, maybe it counts as carb loading.
Congratulations on setting your goals for a half. They are fun, and still plenty challenging.1 -
So sorry to hear about the pains @ceciliaslater and @greenolivetree. I hope you can both get back to full health quickly.
Welcome back @gabbo34! I recently got a Garmin FR watch and it is incredible. Enjoy!
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