Sugar Withdrawals
flowerchic2323
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So I started using MFP yesterday. This morning I woke up with a nasty headache. I've decided to still drink my morning coffee, but without the sugar. I'm eating natural sugars still, just not the granulated stuff. Why am I so tired, cranky, pounding head, ready to snap someone in 2 today. It's only the second day and I'm ready to give up.
I've been on diets before. Many, I've tried them all. I'm at my heaviest I've ever been, 280 lbs, and can't function anymore. My whole body aches. I've never felt so *kitten* after the first day on a diet. I just wanna curl up I'm a corner and die. Any ideas on how to get over sugar withdrawal?
I've been on diets before. Many, I've tried them all. I'm at my heaviest I've ever been, 280 lbs, and can't function anymore. My whole body aches. I've never felt so *kitten* after the first day on a diet. I just wanna curl up I'm a corner and die. Any ideas on how to get over sugar withdrawal?
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flowerchic2323 wrote: »So I started using MFP yesterday. This morning I woke up with a nasty headache. I've decided to still drink my morning coffee, but without the sugar. I'm eating natural sugars still, just not the granulated stuff. Why am I so tired, cranky, pounding head, ready to snap someone in 2 today. It's only the second day and I'm ready to give up.
I've been on diets before. Many, I've tried them all. I'm at my heaviest I've ever been, 280 lbs, and can't function anymore. My whole body aches. I've never felt so *kitten* after the first day on a diet. I just wanna curl up I'm a corner and die. Any ideas on how to get over sugar withdrawal?
You are not having sugar withdrawals (they don't even exist) - you are eating too little! Why have you set your goal below recommended intake? Don't go on diets. Feed yourself properly. That means right quality as well as quantity of food. You should at least be aiming for 1700 calories at this stage. Setup MFP correctly:
If you have 75+ lbs to lose 2 lbs/week is ideal,
If you have 40-75 lbs to lose 1.5 lbs/week is ideal,
If you have 25-40 lbs to lose 1 lbs/week is ideal,
If you have 15-25 lbs to lose 0.5 to 1.0 lbs/week is ideal, and
If you have less than 15 lbs to lose 0.5 lbs/week is ideal.2 -
That's just where it set me. I didn't do it on my own. Thanks I'll try that0
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First of all, there's nothing wrong with sugar in moderation (a tsp in your coffee is 15 calories). Secondly, your calorie goal seems low for your current weight. If you give us your height/age, we can help you run the numbers.
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When my calories are off, eating unclean and carbs rise above 40% of overall food intake, I get unsound cravings.
Smart people argue and debate the sugar/clean eating thing, so who knows?
All I know is that when my diet is clean, calories right and macro's properly balanced, I seldom feel that way.
Good luck to you, and thanks for posting
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When my calories are off, eating unclean and carbs rise above 40% of overall food intake, I get unsound cravings.
Smart people argue and debate the sugar/clean eating thing, so who knows?
All I know is that when my diet is clean, calories right and macro's properly balanced, I seldom feel that way.
Good luck to you, and thanks for posting
She's only tracked one day, but it's pretty 'clean' (whatever that even means). Her carb intake was low at 89g as well. If anything I wonder if that's what's triggering the issues-lower carb days (under 100g) make me feel like utter crap. Her original post doesn't say anything about cravings,
eta: also OP, could you be having PMS? Or coming down with a bug? It might be something not even related to your new diet.0 -
If you're suffering sugar withdrawal, I suggest checking into a rehab program.3
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The coffee mate is sugar in disguise, but with a restricted carbohydrate intake it may be you're getting the reduced blood pressure from loss of sodium with the calorie and carb restriction. A bit of salty broth / stock drink is a popular remedy, or crank up your salt intake a couple of grams.0
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Recent news from Queensland University of Technology may help
https://www.qut.edu.au/news/news?news-id=103307
Part of the above report-
“The latest World Health Organisation figures tell us 1.9 billion people worldwide are overweight, with 600 million considered obese,” said Professor Bartlett who is based at the Translational Research Institute.
“Excess sugar consumption has been proven to contribute directly to weight gain. It has also been shown to repeatedly elevate dopamine levels which control the brain's reward and pleasure centres in a way that is similar to many drugs of abuse including tobacco, cocaine and morphine.
“After long-term consumption, this leads to the opposite, a reduction in dopamine levels. This leads to higher consumption of sugar to get the same level of reward.
“We have also found that as well as an increased risk of weight gain, animals that maintain high sugar consumption and binge eating into adulthood may also face neurological and psychiatric consequences affecting mood and motivation.
“Our study found that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved drugs like varenicline, a prescription medication trading as Champix which treats nicotine addiction, can work the same way when it comes to sugar cravings.”
PhD researcher Masroor Shariff said the study also put artificial sweeteners under the spotlight.
“Interestingly, our study also found that artificial sweeteners such as saccharin could produce effects similar to those we obtained with table sugar, highlighting the importance of reevaluating our relationship with sweetened food per se,” said Mr Shariff.
Professor Bartlett said varenicline acted as a neuronal nicotinic receptor modulator (nAChR) and similar results were observed with other such drugs including mecamylamine and cytisine.
“Like other drugs of abuse, withdrawal from chronic sucrose exposure can result in an imbalance in dopamine levels and be as difficult as going ‘cold turkey’ from them,” she said.1 -
If you ARE getting sugar withdrawels.. and I most certainly did - it does go. I had to go through about 2 weeks of feeling ill and crappy and then I felt fine. Honest x0
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6pkdreamer wrote: »Recent news from Queensland University of Technology may help
https://www.qut.edu.au/news/news?news-id=103307
Part of the above report-
“The latest World Health Organisation figures tell us 1.9 billion people worldwide are overweight, with 600 million considered obese,” said Professor Bartlett who is based at the Translational Research Institute.
“Excess sugar consumption has been proven to contribute directly to weight gain. It has also been shown to repeatedly elevate dopamine levels which control the brain's reward and pleasure centres in a way that is similar to many drugs of abuse including tobacco, cocaine and morphine.
“After long-term consumption, this leads to the opposite, a reduction in dopamine levels. This leads to higher consumption of sugar to get the same level of reward.
“We have also found that as well as an increased risk of weight gain, animals that maintain high sugar consumption and binge eating into adulthood may also face neurological and psychiatric consequences affecting mood and motivation.
“Our study found that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved drugs like varenicline, a prescription medication trading as Champix which treats nicotine addiction, can work the same way when it comes to sugar cravings.”
PhD researcher Masroor Shariff said the study also put artificial sweeteners under the spotlight.
“Interestingly, our study also found that artificial sweeteners such as saccharin could produce effects similar to those we obtained with table sugar, highlighting the importance of reevaluating our relationship with sweetened food per se,” said Mr Shariff.
Professor Bartlett said varenicline acted as a neuronal nicotinic receptor modulator (nAChR) and similar results were observed with other such drugs including mecamylamine and cytisine.
“Like other drugs of abuse, withdrawal from chronic sucrose exposure can result in an imbalance in dopamine levels and be as difficult as going ‘cold turkey’ from them,” she said.
Thank-you very much for posting this 6pkdreamer. As a 45 year sugar junkie I am a believer 100%. Every day without dessert is a better day for me.0 -
I felt awful for a few days when I stopped eating processed added sugar. It does pass. I'm eating it again now but really want to stop as I felt really good when I wasn't eating it. Only you know how your body feels. People might like to try and pretend that all food (including junk and excess sugar) is just food, but the effects of excess processed sugar on the body are proven! Good luck!0
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I am also trying to reduce how much sugar I take in. I have a terrible headache and feel so hungry. I am definitely getting plenty of food, but am going to try increasing how much water I drink. This is very difficult. I hope the headaches you get pass soon! Please share any tips you find to stave off that sweet tooth!0
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I understand. When I stopped using sugar I was cranky, headaches, etc as well. It was not because I was eating too little. I truly believe it was sugar withdrawal. You'll be ok in a week. Easier said than done I know. Take a goody headache powder for now and keep it moving.0
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Where are all the 'nay-sayers' to tell us about how sugar can be part of a healthy weight loss scheme?0
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I still eat sugar and lost 17 kgms and have kept it off for 3 years1
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6pkdreamer wrote: »Recent news from Queensland University of Technology may help
https://www.qut.edu.au/news/news?news-id=103307
Part of the above report-
“The latest World Health Organisation figures tell us 1.9 billion people worldwide are overweight, with 600 million considered obese,” said Professor Bartlett who is based at the Translational Research Institute.
“Excess sugar consumption has been proven to contribute directly to weight gain. It has also been shown to repeatedly elevate dopamine levels which control the brain's reward and pleasure centres in a way that is similar to many drugs of abuse including tobacco, cocaine and morphine.
“After long-term consumption, this leads to the opposite, a reduction in dopamine levels. This leads to higher consumption of sugar to get the same level of reward.
“We have also found that as well as an increased risk of weight gain, animals that maintain high sugar consumption and binge eating into adulthood may also face neurological and psychiatric consequences affecting mood and motivation.
“Our study found that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved drugs like varenicline, a prescription medication trading as Champix which treats nicotine addiction, can work the same way when it comes to sugar cravings.”
PhD researcher Masroor Shariff said the study also put artificial sweeteners under the spotlight.
“Interestingly, our study also found that artificial sweeteners such as saccharin could produce effects similar to those we obtained with table sugar, highlighting the importance of reevaluating our relationship with sweetened food per se,” said Mr Shariff.
Professor Bartlett said varenicline acted as a neuronal nicotinic receptor modulator (nAChR) and similar results were observed with other such drugs including mecamylamine and cytisine.
“Like other drugs of abuse, withdrawal from chronic sucrose exposure can result in an imbalance in dopamine levels and be as difficult as going ‘cold turkey’ from them,” she said.
The article starts being wrong when it says that sugar is "proven" to directly contribute to weight gain and doesn't get better.2 -
serendipity57 wrote: »I still eat sugar and lost 17 kgms and have kept it off for 3 years
Losing weight is good thing for health but it's only one aspect as I'm sure your aware.
If that was the case one wouldn't need to go for a full medical. All the physician would have to no is your weight???
(all those years of study wasted).
MFP is a particularly good tool for controlling a lifestyle of excess of many things including sugar.
My FITNESS Pal is not My WEIGHT LOSS Pal.
MFP is not only about Macros. MFP is also about micro-nutrients which can be ignored.0 -
6pkdreamer wrote: »serendipity57 wrote: »I still eat sugar and lost 17 kgms and have kept it off for 3 years
Losing weight is good thing for health but it's only one aspect as I'm sure your aware.
If that was the case one wouldn't need to go for a full medical. All the physician would have to no is your weight???
(all those years of study wasted).
MFP is a particularly good tool for controlling a lifestyle of excess of many things including sugar.
My FITNESS Pal is not My WEIGHT LOSS Pal.
MFP is not only about Macros. MFP is also about micro-nutrients which can be ignored.
Many health risks are directly reduced by losing weight.
Full medicals are useful because there's health risks that have nothing at all to do with your lifestyle.
People who tell you that you can still eat all the things you enjoy and still lose weight never tell you to ignore nutrition. NEVER.4 -
Drink lots of water and enjoy your coffee with stevia, a natural sweetener. Stop eating processed food, these actually cause the cravings. Get your carbs from whole foods such as sweet potatoes, brown rice, fruit and veggies. You will actually start to feel much better and will find that when you eat junk you feel like junk. Stay strong and don't quit. We only get one body so make the most of it.0
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Drink lots of water and enjoy your coffee with stevia, a natural sweetener. Stop eating processed food, these actually cause the cravings. Get your carbs from whole foods such as sweet potatoes, brown rice, fruit and veggies. You will actually start to feel much better and will find that when you eat junk you feel like junk. Stay strong and don't quit. We only get one body so make the most of it.
Stevia is a processed food.3 -
stevencloser wrote: »
People who tell you that you can still eat all the things you enjoy and still lose weight never tell you to ignore nutrition. NEVER.
Your dead right- nutrition is quite often not mentioned at all!0 -
6pkdreamer wrote: »
Your dead right- nutrition is quite often not mentioned at all!stevencloser wrote: »
People who tell you that you can still eat all the things you enjoy and still lose weight never tell you to ignore nutrition. NEVER.
If you want us to treat you like a 5 year old and tell you to eat your veggies, we can do that. But then we'll be called mean.3 -
6pkdreamer wrote: »Recent news from Queensland University of Technology may help
https://www.qut.edu.au/news/news?news-id=103307
Part of the above report-
“The latest World Health Organisation figures tell us 1.9 billion people worldwide are overweight, with 600 million considered obese,” said Professor Bartlett who is based at the Translational Research Institute.
“Excess sugar consumption has been proven to contribute directly to weight gain. It has also been shown to repeatedly elevate dopamine levels which control the brain's reward and pleasure centres in a way that is similar to many drugs of abuse including tobacco, cocaine and morphine.
“After long-term consumption, this leads to the opposite, a reduction in dopamine levels. This leads to higher consumption of sugar to get the same level of reward.
“We have also found that as well as an increased risk of weight gain, animals that maintain high sugar consumption and binge eating into adulthood may also face neurological and psychiatric consequences affecting mood and motivation.
“Our study found that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved drugs like varenicline, a prescription medication trading as Champix which treats nicotine addiction, can work the same way when it comes to sugar cravings.”
PhD researcher Masroor Shariff said the study also put artificial sweeteners under the spotlight.
“Interestingly, our study also found that artificial sweeteners such as saccharin could produce effects similar to those we obtained with table sugar, highlighting the importance of reevaluating our relationship with sweetened food per se,” said Mr Shariff.
Professor Bartlett said varenicline acted as a neuronal nicotinic receptor modulator (nAChR) and similar results were observed with other such drugs including mecamylamine and cytisine.
“Like other drugs of abuse, withdrawal from chronic sucrose exposure can result in an imbalance in dopamine levels and be as difficult as going ‘cold turkey’ from them,” she said.
I guess the report missed that it's too many calories consumed and not enough calories burned that actually causes obesity. Not sugar.
Hell, you can become overweight eating nothing but meat, or vegetables.0 -
Drink lots of water and enjoy your coffee with stevia, a natural sweetener. Stop eating processed food, these actually cause the cravings. Get your carbs from whole foods such as sweet potatoes, brown rice, fruit and veggies. You will actually start to feel much better and will find that when you eat junk you feel like junk. Stay strong and don't quit. We only get one body so make the most of it.
Coffee is a processed food. So is brown rice and sweet potatoes (Most of the time).
To be frank, anything cooked is processed.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »
I guess the report missed that it's too many calories consumed and not enough calories burned that actually causes obesity. Not sugar.
Hell, you can become overweight eating nothing but meat, or vegetables.
Those silly people at Queensland University of Technology have really overlooked the obvious.
Email QUT so they can stop wasting precious resources.0 -
OP, you said you started yesterday? It's also possible that this is entirely unrelated to diet or completely in your head (as in, you expect withdrawal symptoms, therefore you have them). I'd give it a few more days (at least!) of logging accurately and then reassess.1
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6pkdreamer wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »
I guess the report missed that it's too many calories consumed and not enough calories burned that actually causes obesity. Not sugar.
Hell, you can become overweight eating nothing but meat, or vegetables.
Those silly people at Queensland University of Technology have really overlooked the obvious.
Email QUT so they can stop wasting precious resources.
They ARE wrong with that.
Well, technically they're disingenuous because they should know very well that the only thing in sugar that leads to weight gain is the calories.
I could say "Excess broccoli consumption has been proven to contribute directly to weight gain." and it would be correct in the same way.
And it just goes on in the same way. Dopamine -> released by everything you're looking forward to.
Dopamine reduction happens with addictive drugs because the chemicals actually fit into the same receptors as dopamine, they basically replace it. That is not true for sugar. Sugar is not an addictive drug.2 -
OP, I wonder if you have the flu or something. Only one day?
I think you need to give it more time. There is nothing wrong with eating all things in moderation for most people. It takes self control, but the effort is well worth it in the long term.
Give it more time.0
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