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If you cut off your left arm then your right arm would be left.1
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Ouji boards rely on the fact that at least one of your friends wants to *kitten* with the group.0
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Are useless facts also incorrect facts? For example, if I said 2+2=5, that would be a useless fact because it's incorrect.0
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MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »
That's what I'm asking. Aren't incorrect answers or supposed facts, also useless?
For example, what if I actually thought the Moon was the back of the sun. That would be a useless fact because what I thought was a fact was in fact not a fact and therefor useless.0 -
MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »
That's what I'm asking. Aren't incorrect answers or supposed facts, also useless?
For example, what if I actually thought the Moon was the back of the sun. That would be a useless fact because what I thought was a fact was in fact not a fact and therefor useless.
But it wouldn't be a useless fact just because you thought it was a fact. It has to be an actual fact.
Incorrect answers are useless, but not facts. By definition a fact cannot be incorrect.
Pluto is a planet. Fact or fake fact?0 -
MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »
That's what I'm asking. Aren't incorrect answers or supposed facts, also useless?
For example, what if I actually thought the Moon was the back of the sun. That would be a useless fact because what I thought was a fact was in fact not a fact and therefor useless.
But it wouldn't be a useless fact just because you thought it was a fact. It has to be an actual fact.
Incorrect answers are useless, but not facts. By definition a fact cannot be incorrect.
Pluto is a planet. Fact or fake fact?
Neither. Pluto is a dwarf planet which is a different category than Planet.
ETA: according to the International Astronomical Union
But growing up we thought it was a planet, I would of told you before 2000 that we have 9 planets and that is a fact. Then we find out it's not. But people wanted it added back as a planet even though it may not be.
My point is some facts we think are true but aren't. If you look in the TIL thread you'll see why I started thinking this way.
So are incorrect facts also useless facts since they are not facts?
This essay may explain what I'm trying to say better then I am.
Fact, Opinion, False Claim, or Untested Claim?
http://www.auburn.edu/academic/education/reading_genie/Fact-opinion.htmlFact
Most people only count statements proven by observation as facts. Any other statement is written off as opinion. By implication, only science has facts. But dictionaries define fact more generally as something that can be shown to be true, to exist, or to have happened. Is that a fact? It is. Can you verify this claim by observation? No. Therefore, at least one kind of fact can't be observed. The definition of fact is a fact because that's how knowledgeable English speakers agree to use the term. Definitions are analytical facts, verified by linguistic usage, not by observation.
We need an enlarged view of fact as any statement about the real world that can be shown to be true, i.e., that is supported by converging evidence. In the enlarged view, there are at least four kinds of facts: empirical, analytical, evaluative, and metaphysical.
Kinds of facts, with false factual claims, and untested claims
Empirical facts
Empirical facts are verified by observation, e.g., The Pacific is the largest ocean. Geographers have measured the oceans, and their convergent conclusion is that the Pacific Ocean is largest. When we think of facts, we think first of empirical facts, the conclusions of convergent scientific observation.
Historical facts, though not available for observation today, are also empirically verifiable through the convergent observations of the past as recorded in primary sources. Thus, the claim that George Washington presided at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 is empirical fact.0 -
FACT: Reading all of this is starting to give me a headache.MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »MeeseeksAndDestroy wrote: »
That's what I'm asking. Aren't incorrect answers or supposed facts, also useless?
For example, what if I actually thought the Moon was the back of the sun. That would be a useless fact because what I thought was a fact was in fact not a fact and therefor useless.
But it wouldn't be a useless fact just because you thought it was a fact. It has to be an actual fact.
Incorrect answers are useless, but not facts. By definition a fact cannot be incorrect.
Pluto is a planet. Fact or fake fact?
Neither. Pluto is a dwarf planet which is a different category than Planet.
ETA: according to the International Astronomical Union
But growing up we thought it was a planet, I would of told you before 2000 that we have 9 planets and that is a fact. Then we find out it's not. But people wanted it added back as a planet even though it may not be.
My point is some facts we think are true but aren't. If you look in the TIL thread you'll see why I started thinking this way.
So are incorrect facts also useless facts since they are not facts?
This essay may explain what I'm trying to say better then I am.
Fact, Opinion, False Claim, or Untested Claim?
http://www.auburn.edu/academic/education/reading_genie/Fact-opinion.htmlFact
Most people only count statements proven by observation as facts. Any other statement is written off as opinion. By implication, only science has facts. But dictionaries define fact more generally as something that can be shown to be true, to exist, or to have happened. Is that a fact? It is. Can you verify this claim by observation? No. Therefore, at least one kind of fact can't be observed. The definition of fact is a fact because that's how knowledgeable English speakers agree to use the term. Definitions are analytical facts, verified by linguistic usage, not by observation.
We need an enlarged view of fact as any statement about the real world that can be shown to be true, i.e., that is supported by converging evidence. In the enlarged view, there are at least four kinds of facts: empirical, analytical, evaluative, and metaphysical.
Kinds of facts, with false factual claims, and untested claims
Empirical facts
Empirical facts are verified by observation, e.g., The Pacific is the largest ocean. Geographers have measured the oceans, and their convergent conclusion is that the Pacific Ocean is largest. When we think of facts, we think first of empirical facts, the conclusions of convergent scientific observation.
Historical facts, though not available for observation today, are also empirically verifiable through the convergent observations of the past as recorded in primary sources. Thus, the claim that George Washington presided at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 is empirical fact.0 -
47% of all statistics are b*llsh*t...0
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TheHawk007 wrote: »47% of all statistics are b*llsh*t...
I read a study which supports this fact.0 -
Rooms with round doorknobs are good for trapping raptors and people who just moisturized their hands.1
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If you hear someone say "Hey, Miss" it sounds normal, but if you hear "Hey, Mister" you expect to see a young boy from 1940 selling you newspapers.2
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UrBaconMeCr8zy wrote: »If you hear someone say "Hey, Miss" it sounds normal, but if you hear "Hey, Mister" you expect to see a young boy from 1940 selling you newspapers.
What if you hear "Hey, Miss" and you turn around and there is an orthodox Jewish man standing behinds you? And then you realize his name is Heamish
I always turn around no matter what is said because I want to see who is talking.0
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