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Sugar addiction like drug abuse, study reveals
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GaleHawkins wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »So it's the carbs they are addicted to not the alcohol?
I do not know the facts about "they".
Could not one be an alcoholic just because they liked getting stoned without being an addict? I stopped abusing carbs cold turkey by just deciding to do so in hopes of pain management instead of starting Enbrel injections promoted by the MD's that I was working with. I know people who made the decision to stop abusing alcohol and never drank anymore. Same thing with some chain smokers. It was a hellish two weeks for me when I stopped eating foods with added sugar and any form of grains. After two weeks the carb cravings just started fading way quickly. Over two years later the carb cravings have not returned and I have maintained my weight loss for two years now. Just stop eating processed food took added sugar and grains out of my Way Of Eat for the most part manages my pain well and all of my health markers are still improving. At 65 they are better than when I was 45. I was doing Low Carb High Fat before I learned the term. After I started reading on MFP I realized I was accidentally doing LCHF without knowing what it was. As long as it manages my pain without side effects of Rx meds and improves my longevity odds I will stay with this WOE.
So again, I ask you, are you stating that alcoholics are addicted to carbohydrates and not to the alcohol in the drinks they abuse? A simple yes or no will suffice.2 -
WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »So it's the carbs they are addicted to not the alcohol?
I do not know the facts about "they".
Could not one be an alcoholic just because they liked getting stoned without being an addict? I stopped abusing carbs cold turkey by just deciding to do so in hopes of pain management instead of starting Enbrel injections promoted by the MD's that I was working with. I know people who made the decision to stop abusing alcohol and never drank anymore. Same thing with some chain smokers. It was a hellish two weeks for me when I stopped eating foods with added sugar and any form of grains. After two weeks the carb cravings just started fading way quickly. Over two years later the carb cravings have not returned and I have maintained my weight loss for two years now. Just stop eating processed food took added sugar and grains out of my Way Of Eat for the most part manages my pain well and all of my health markers are still improving. At 65 they are better than when I was 45. I was doing Low Carb High Fat before I learned the term. After I started reading on MFP I realized I was accidentally doing LCHF without knowing what it was. As long as it manages my pain without side effects of Rx meds and improves my longevity odds I will stay with this WOE.
So again, I ask you, are you stating that alcoholics are addicted to carbohydrates and not to the alcohol in the drinks they abuse? A simple yes or no will suffice.
Human behaviour traits causes are seldom simple Yes or No issues and even more seldom when talking about addiction causes perhaps?0 -
Interesting discussion.
When I was still drinking, I actively sought out anything that had an alcohol content. It didn't matter if I had eaten or not, and my diet was extremely carb heavy the last few years of my drinking. I didn't know, or even think about that then, but looking back it's easy to see. No amount of carbs quelled that need for a drink.
I also knew what my history was - constant blackouts, suicidal, you get the idea. Knowing that getting alcohol in my system was likely to start another trouble laden binge never deterred me from getting that drink. Bounced checks, lies etc...
I never did that to get sugar or carbs lol.
Today, there are zero cravings to manage, not for alcohol, carbs or sugar...
There aren't any obsessions either, and I sometimes wonder if some folks think an obsession = an addiction. The latter is far more insidious and dangerous as far as my personal experience goes.3 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DietVanillaCoke wrote: »Sugar addiction? Not exactly. A self control issue? For some, yes. Some people are more prone to be "addicted" to things and with help and discipline they can stop.
I'm yet to be held up and mugged on the street by someone wanting a pixy stick. So I'm going to say no on this. Also when people rob a house, they don't steal your sugar and candy... they tend to go for, money and jewelry, if you had meth in the house and a meth addict knew it, they'd probably go for the meth too... but I doubt if they eat sugar they'd steal all the sugar in the house...
I think the issue is self control and demonizing sugar is a way to say "I'm not fat because I lack discipline and have no self control"... "I'm fat because I'm addicted" and not feel as guilty. At the end of the day it's still a self control issue, which isn't 100% "addiction". With discipline you train yourself to stop eating large amounts of high calorie garbage... though I imagine some people might not find it that easy to do and maybe they need to go cold turkey... I don't think everyone needs to though.
A year ago I could eat a whole 500gms of chocolate in a day... feel horrible about it, then I'd go eat a burger. I don't think it was "sugar addiction" for me. It's because I didn't give a damn and I enjoyed eating it. It didn't seem like it was harmful, it was just food and I loved food. It made me feel great, but that's hardly an "addiction" you could compare to taking heroin. Yes my brain's reacting to it and that's why i feel great but food can do that. I feel great after I walk, watch a good movie or read a good book. What changed me was seeing so many docu's on obesity and the health related issues. I now feel disgusted at the thought of eating so much garbage. I look at what I'm planning to eat before i buy it.
Yes you are correct in saying "Some people are more prone to be addicted to things..."
Addictions are a common trait on my father's side of the family. In my case I do not think I had a specific "Sugar Addition" but it more a "Carb Addiction" in general. I never drank alcohol because I grew up seeing how it was abused by my uncles and the negative impact on the wives and kids but I sure was able to abuse/over eat carbs in food that was negative for my health until I went off of sugar and all forms of all grains 30 months ago. Thankfully I am seeing some health gains even at my age after giving up that addiction cold turkey finally at the age of 63. While from time to time I will eat a piece of candy the urge to keep eating it still strong after the first piece. In the past I never opened box of chocolate covered cherries that I did not wind up eating the entire box in short order. Perhaps I still have that addiction but I just made the choice not to live off of mainly carbs any longer.
There's a danger in watering down definitions as this trend often masks root causes.
If you are able to not consume a substance (in this case alcohol) due to recognition of a negative impact, then you are by definition, not addicted.
That is true. I am not addicted to alcohol because I have never consumed any. Since alcohol typically is a carb containing drink and carb additions runs in my family and in me specifically I just see "carbs" as being the least common denominator in my family food addictions.
Some alcohol-containing drinks may have carbohydrates, but alcohol itself is carbohydrate-free. Vodka, rum, whiskey, all free of carbohydrates. If someone has trouble with alcohol, framing that as a carbohydrate issue doesn't really make sense.
We *know* that alcohol is addictive. We don't know that for carbohydrates. Are you saying the alcoholics in your family would turn down a rum and diet Coke or a glass of neat bourbon because it wouldn't satisfy their addiction?
All of the alcoholics that I knew personally in my family are now dead. Getting drunk every time one starts drinking carries grave health risks.
I'm not saying it doesn't, not at all. But what does that have to do with your statement about carbohydrates being the least common denominator in your family additions?
Do you personally know any alcoholic that drink/eat Zero Carbs in the process of getting drunk on a regular bases? Carbs just seem to be the least common denominator in most all food addictions that I have observed.
If the carbohydrate were the issue, why wouldn't an alcoholic be happier with a glass of Coca-Cola or a pint of ice cream?
And yes, I do know people who prefer their alcohol either low-carbohydrate or carbohydrate-free. Since we're asking each other about personal experiences, maybe you can answer the question I asked earlier: would the alcoholics in your family turn down a rum and diet coke or a glass of neat bourbon because it didn't have carbohydrates?
Sugar was added to some cigarettes to make them tastier, do you think that smokers are really just addicted to carbohydrates? This is one of the most ridiculous arguments that I have seen on this website. We *know* that alcohol is addictive, it's one of the oldest addictions that humanity has encountered. We know this addiction can thrive even when the alcohol doesn't have many carbohydrates or any carbohydrates -- look at the major problems Victorian-era England had with gin (which is carbohydrate-free). Just because some people enjoy their alcoholic mixed with carbohydrates doesn't mean that they aren't addicted to alcohol. Did you know they have to lock up hand sanitizers in rehab centers because some alcoholics will try to drink them? They're not craving carbohydrates.
I know from your posts that you are extremely fearful of carbohydrates and you attribute vast amounts of harm to them, but this is just a reach.
Why would anyone be fearful of carbohydrates or anything else. In the process of getting required fats and protein some optional carbs come along for the ride.
When someone attributes alcoholism to carbohydrates, it seems fearful to me. If I am misreading your emotions, I apologize.3 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »So it's the carbs they are addicted to not the alcohol?
I do not know the facts about "they".
Could not one be an alcoholic just because they liked getting stoned without being an addict? I stopped abusing carbs cold turkey by just deciding to do so in hopes of pain management instead of starting Enbrel injections promoted by the MD's that I was working with. I know people who made the decision to stop abusing alcohol and never drank anymore. Same thing with some chain smokers. It was a hellish two weeks for me when I stopped eating foods with added sugar and any form of grains. After two weeks the carb cravings just started fading way quickly. Over two years later the carb cravings have not returned and I have maintained my weight loss for two years now. Just stop eating processed food took added sugar and grains out of my Way Of Eat for the most part manages my pain well and all of my health markers are still improving. At 65 they are better than when I was 45. I was doing Low Carb High Fat before I learned the term. After I started reading on MFP I realized I was accidentally doing LCHF without knowing what it was. As long as it manages my pain without side effects of Rx meds and improves my longevity odds I will stay with this WOE.
So again, I ask you, are you stating that alcoholics are addicted to carbohydrates and not to the alcohol in the drinks they abuse? A simple yes or no will suffice.
Human behaviour traits causes are seldom simple Yes or No issues and even more seldom when talking about addiction causes perhaps?
Do you think alcohol is addictive? We know that alcoholics will drink alcohol even when it is low carbohydrate or no carbohydrate. Given your statements, I'm curious as to why you think they would do that.0 -
Clearly.GaleHawkins wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »So it's the carbs they are addicted to not the alcohol?
I do not know the facts about "they".
If they are not an addict, they are not an alcoholic. Just a drinker.GaleHawkins wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »So it's the carbs they are addicted to not the alcohol?
Could not one be an alcoholic just because they liked getting stoned without being an addict?GaleHawkins wrote: »
all of my health markers are still improving. At 65 they are better than when I was 45.singingflutelady wrote: »So it's the carbs they are addicted to not the alcohol?
Losing weight will do that for you.5 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DietVanillaCoke wrote: »Sugar addiction? Not exactly. A self control issue? For some, yes. Some people are more prone to be "addicted" to things and with help and discipline they can stop.
I'm yet to be held up and mugged on the street by someone wanting a pixy stick. So I'm going to say no on this. Also when people rob a house, they don't steal your sugar and candy... they tend to go for, money and jewelry, if you had meth in the house and a meth addict knew it, they'd probably go for the meth too... but I doubt if they eat sugar they'd steal all the sugar in the house...
I think the issue is self control and demonizing sugar is a way to say "I'm not fat because I lack discipline and have no self control"... "I'm fat because I'm addicted" and not feel as guilty. At the end of the day it's still a self control issue, which isn't 100% "addiction". With discipline you train yourself to stop eating large amounts of high calorie garbage... though I imagine some people might not find it that easy to do and maybe they need to go cold turkey... I don't think everyone needs to though.
A year ago I could eat a whole 500gms of chocolate in a day... feel horrible about it, then I'd go eat a burger. I don't think it was "sugar addiction" for me. It's because I didn't give a damn and I enjoyed eating it. It didn't seem like it was harmful, it was just food and I loved food. It made me feel great, but that's hardly an "addiction" you could compare to taking heroin. Yes my brain's reacting to it and that's why i feel great but food can do that. I feel great after I walk, watch a good movie or read a good book. What changed me was seeing so many docu's on obesity and the health related issues. I now feel disgusted at the thought of eating so much garbage. I look at what I'm planning to eat before i buy it.
Yes you are correct in saying "Some people are more prone to be addicted to things..."
Addictions are a common trait on my father's side of the family. In my case I do not think I had a specific "Sugar Addition" but it more a "Carb Addiction" in general. I never drank alcohol because I grew up seeing how it was abused by my uncles and the negative impact on the wives and kids but I sure was able to abuse/over eat carbs in food that was negative for my health until I went off of sugar and all forms of all grains 30 months ago. Thankfully I am seeing some health gains even at my age after giving up that addiction cold turkey finally at the age of 63. While from time to time I will eat a piece of candy the urge to keep eating it still strong after the first piece. In the past I never opened box of chocolate covered cherries that I did not wind up eating the entire box in short order. Perhaps I still have that addiction but I just made the choice not to live off of mainly carbs any longer.
There's a danger in watering down definitions as this trend often masks root causes.
If you are able to not consume a substance (in this case alcohol) due to recognition of a negative impact, then you are by definition, not addicted.
That is true. I am not addicted to alcohol because I have never consumed any. Since alcohol typically is a carb containing drink and carb additions runs in my family and in me specifically I just see "carbs" as being the least common denominator in my family food addictions.
Some alcohol-containing drinks may have carbohydrates, but alcohol itself is carbohydrate-free. Vodka, rum, whiskey, all free of carbohydrates. If someone has trouble with alcohol, framing that as a carbohydrate issue doesn't really make sense.
We *know* that alcohol is addictive. We don't know that for carbohydrates. Are you saying the alcoholics in your family would turn down a rum and diet Coke or a glass of neat bourbon because it wouldn't satisfy their addiction?
All of the alcoholics that I knew personally in my family are now dead. Getting drunk every time one starts drinking carries grave health risks.
I'm not saying it doesn't, not at all. But what does that have to do with your statement about carbohydrates being the least common denominator in your family additions?
Do you personally know any alcoholic that drink/eat Zero Carbs in the process of getting drunk on a regular bases? Carbs just seem to be the least common denominator in most all food addictions that I have observed.
So just to be clear... you think it is the carbohydrates in some alcoholic drinks that is causing the addiction and the subsequent problems for those who can't control their intake, and not the alcohol itself. Is that correct?
Alcohol was not involved in my carb addiction I do know. Beer seems to be preferred by some to get drunk and get carbs at the same time.
Guy I knew in law school insisted it was impossible to get drunk on Guinness as it was too filling. (I could always manage, although I tended to prefer drinks with fewer carbs.)0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DietVanillaCoke wrote: »Sugar addiction? Not exactly. A self control issue? For some, yes. Some people are more prone to be "addicted" to things and with help and discipline they can stop.
I'm yet to be held up and mugged on the street by someone wanting a pixy stick. So I'm going to say no on this. Also when people rob a house, they don't steal your sugar and candy... they tend to go for, money and jewelry, if you had meth in the house and a meth addict knew it, they'd probably go for the meth too... but I doubt if they eat sugar they'd steal all the sugar in the house...
I think the issue is self control and demonizing sugar is a way to say "I'm not fat because I lack discipline and have no self control"... "I'm fat because I'm addicted" and not feel as guilty. At the end of the day it's still a self control issue, which isn't 100% "addiction". With discipline you train yourself to stop eating large amounts of high calorie garbage... though I imagine some people might not find it that easy to do and maybe they need to go cold turkey... I don't think everyone needs to though.
A year ago I could eat a whole 500gms of chocolate in a day... feel horrible about it, then I'd go eat a burger. I don't think it was "sugar addiction" for me. It's because I didn't give a damn and I enjoyed eating it. It didn't seem like it was harmful, it was just food and I loved food. It made me feel great, but that's hardly an "addiction" you could compare to taking heroin. Yes my brain's reacting to it and that's why i feel great but food can do that. I feel great after I walk, watch a good movie or read a good book. What changed me was seeing so many docu's on obesity and the health related issues. I now feel disgusted at the thought of eating so much garbage. I look at what I'm planning to eat before i buy it.
Yes you are correct in saying "Some people are more prone to be addicted to things..."
Addictions are a common trait on my father's side of the family. In my case I do not think I had a specific "Sugar Addition" but it more a "Carb Addiction" in general. I never drank alcohol because I grew up seeing how it was abused by my uncles and the negative impact on the wives and kids but I sure was able to abuse/over eat carbs in food that was negative for my health until I went off of sugar and all forms of all grains 30 months ago. Thankfully I am seeing some health gains even at my age after giving up that addiction cold turkey finally at the age of 63. While from time to time I will eat a piece of candy the urge to keep eating it still strong after the first piece. In the past I never opened box of chocolate covered cherries that I did not wind up eating the entire box in short order. Perhaps I still have that addiction but I just made the choice not to live off of mainly carbs any longer.
There's a danger in watering down definitions as this trend often masks root causes.
If you are able to not consume a substance (in this case alcohol) due to recognition of a negative impact, then you are by definition, not addicted.
That is true. I am not addicted to alcohol because I have never consumed any. Since alcohol typically is a carb containing drink and carb additions runs in my family and in me specifically I just see "carbs" as being the least common denominator in my family food addictions.
Some alcohol-containing drinks may have carbohydrates, but alcohol itself is carbohydrate-free. Vodka, rum, whiskey, all free of carbohydrates. If someone has trouble with alcohol, framing that as a carbohydrate issue doesn't really make sense.
We *know* that alcohol is addictive. We don't know that for carbohydrates. Are you saying the alcoholics in your family would turn down a rum and diet Coke or a glass of neat bourbon because it wouldn't satisfy their addiction?
All of the alcoholics that I knew personally in my family are now dead. Getting drunk every time one starts drinking carries grave health risks.
I'm not saying it doesn't, not at all. But what does that have to do with your statement about carbohydrates being the least common denominator in your family additions?
Do you personally know any alcoholic that drink/eat Zero Carbs in the process of getting drunk on a regular bases? Carbs just seem to be the least common denominator in most all food addictions that I have observed.
If the carbohydrate were the issue, why wouldn't an alcoholic be happier with a glass of Coca-Cola or a pint of ice cream?
And yes, I do know people who prefer their alcohol either low-carbohydrate or carbohydrate-free. Since we're asking each other about personal experiences, maybe you can answer the question I asked earlier: would the alcoholics in your family turn down a rum and diet coke or a glass of neat bourbon because it didn't have carbohydrates?
Sugar was added to some cigarettes to make them tastier, do you think that smokers are really just addicted to carbohydrates? This is one of the most ridiculous arguments that I have seen on this website. We *know* that alcohol is addictive, it's one of the oldest addictions that humanity has encountered. We know this addiction can thrive even when the alcohol doesn't have many carbohydrates or any carbohydrates -- look at the major problems Victorian-era England had with gin (which is carbohydrate-free). Just because some people enjoy their alcoholic mixed with carbohydrates doesn't mean that they aren't addicted to alcohol. Did you know they have to lock up hand sanitizers in rehab centers because some alcoholics will try to drink them? They're not craving carbohydrates.
I know from your posts that you are extremely fearful of carbohydrates and you attribute vast amounts of harm to them, but this is just a reach.
Why would anyone be fearful of carbohydrates or anything else. In the process of getting required fats and protein some optional carbs come along for the ride.
When someone attributes alcoholism to carbohydrates, it seems fearful to me. If I am misreading your emotions, I apologize.
I did a have fear perhaps like many others of giving up my carb addiction to try my hunch that getting off of processed foods or any food containing added sugars or any form of grains would help manage my pain without taking any dangerous Rx meds needlessly. I am guessing many people have a fear of giving up any kind of addiction. Many of us just trade one addiction for another because we somehow find comfort in addictions perhaps.
I got pain relief 30 days after I went off of sugar and all forms of all grains. It was day 46 before I lost the first pound of weight. Losing weight is always a good thing when one is obese as I was but weight loss was not associated with my early pain management. Cutting out most carbs was key to pain manage however in my case. The fact cutting out the sugar and grains cut out my carb food cravings that helped to automatically lose weight as a side effect of cutting out the sugar and grains.
Likewise if I am misreading your emotions, I apologize.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »DietVanillaCoke wrote: »Sugar addiction? Not exactly. A self control issue? For some, yes. Some people are more prone to be "addicted" to things and with help and discipline they can stop.
I'm yet to be held up and mugged on the street by someone wanting a pixy stick. So I'm going to say no on this. Also when people rob a house, they don't steal your sugar and candy... they tend to go for, money and jewelry, if you had meth in the house and a meth addict knew it, they'd probably go for the meth too... but I doubt if they eat sugar they'd steal all the sugar in the house...
I think the issue is self control and demonizing sugar is a way to say "I'm not fat because I lack discipline and have no self control"... "I'm fat because I'm addicted" and not feel as guilty. At the end of the day it's still a self control issue, which isn't 100% "addiction". With discipline you train yourself to stop eating large amounts of high calorie garbage... though I imagine some people might not find it that easy to do and maybe they need to go cold turkey... I don't think everyone needs to though.
A year ago I could eat a whole 500gms of chocolate in a day... feel horrible about it, then I'd go eat a burger. I don't think it was "sugar addiction" for me. It's because I didn't give a damn and I enjoyed eating it. It didn't seem like it was harmful, it was just food and I loved food. It made me feel great, but that's hardly an "addiction" you could compare to taking heroin. Yes my brain's reacting to it and that's why i feel great but food can do that. I feel great after I walk, watch a good movie or read a good book. What changed me was seeing so many docu's on obesity and the health related issues. I now feel disgusted at the thought of eating so much garbage. I look at what I'm planning to eat before i buy it.
Yes you are correct in saying "Some people are more prone to be addicted to things..."
Addictions are a common trait on my father's side of the family. In my case I do not think I had a specific "Sugar Addition" but it more a "Carb Addiction" in general. I never drank alcohol because I grew up seeing how it was abused by my uncles and the negative impact on the wives and kids but I sure was able to abuse/over eat carbs in food that was negative for my health until I went off of sugar and all forms of all grains 30 months ago. Thankfully I am seeing some health gains even at my age after giving up that addiction cold turkey finally at the age of 63. While from time to time I will eat a piece of candy the urge to keep eating it still strong after the first piece. In the past I never opened box of chocolate covered cherries that I did not wind up eating the entire box in short order. Perhaps I still have that addiction but I just made the choice not to live off of mainly carbs any longer.
There's a danger in watering down definitions as this trend often masks root causes.
If you are able to not consume a substance (in this case alcohol) due to recognition of a negative impact, then you are by definition, not addicted.
That is true. I am not addicted to alcohol because I have never consumed any. Since alcohol typically is a carb containing drink and carb additions runs in my family and in me specifically I just see "carbs" as being the least common denominator in my family food addictions.
Some alcohol-containing drinks may have carbohydrates, but alcohol itself is carbohydrate-free. Vodka, rum, whiskey, all free of carbohydrates. If someone has trouble with alcohol, framing that as a carbohydrate issue doesn't really make sense.
We *know* that alcohol is addictive. We don't know that for carbohydrates. Are you saying the alcoholics in your family would turn down a rum and diet Coke or a glass of neat bourbon because it wouldn't satisfy their addiction?
All of the alcoholics that I knew personally in my family are now dead. Getting drunk every time one starts drinking carries grave health risks.
I'm not saying it doesn't, not at all. But what does that have to do with your statement about carbohydrates being the least common denominator in your family additions?
Do you personally know any alcoholic that drink/eat Zero Carbs in the process of getting drunk on a regular bases? Carbs just seem to be the least common denominator in most all food addictions that I have observed.
So just to be clear... you think it is the carbohydrates in some alcoholic drinks that is causing the addiction and the subsequent problems for those who can't control their intake, and not the alcohol itself. Is that correct?
Alcohol was not involved in my carb addiction I do know. Beer seems to be preferred by some to get drunk and get carbs at the same time.
Guy I knew in law school insisted it was impossible to get drunk on Guinness as it was too filling. (I could always manage, although I tended to prefer drinks with fewer carbs.)
My husband also finds it virtually impossible to get drunk on heavier beers. He really dislikes the sensation of being too full, which is probably why he finds it so easy to manage his weight!2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »
Guy I knew in law school insisted it was impossible to get drunk on Guinness as it was too filling. (I could always manage, although I tended to prefer drinks with fewer carbs.)
My husband also finds it virtually impossible to get drunk on heavier beers. He really dislikes the sensation of being too full, which is probably why he finds it so easy to manage his weight!
I hate your husband!
I can drink enough Guinness to get drunk. It's easier with the local Porter (as it is 8%) but I can do it on Guinness.
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Tacklewasher wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »
Guy I knew in law school insisted it was impossible to get drunk on Guinness as it was too filling. (I could always manage, although I tended to prefer drinks with fewer carbs.)
My husband also finds it virtually impossible to get drunk on heavier beers. He really dislikes the sensation of being too full, which is probably why he finds it so easy to manage his weight!
I hate your husband!
I can drink enough Guinness to get drunk. It's easier with the local Porter (as it is 8%) but I can do it on Guinness.
I can also drink enough of it to get drunk. I love a good Porter.0 -
sugar is a drug!!!!! gimme gimme gimme1
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According to Charlie Sheen, winning is a drug.
ETA: probably because of all the carbs in winning.4
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