Too many carbs?
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@Gun4aCarbs are body's preferred source of energy. If you don't work out hard, you don't really need that many carbs throughout the day, hence the "low carb/high fat diet works for so many people.
Not getting your point at all. I had 479g of carbs on Saturday which I would guess you would call high carb. I was in a calorie deficit and exceeded my protein and fat goals too.
Please explain the negative effects.2 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
Wut?
Carbs are not the enemy.
Explain how many have lost weight on moderate to high carb?
Hint: Carbs have nothing to do with wight loss..it's all about consuming less calories than your body needs to maintain weight.
Oh....10lbs in 2 weeks is surely water weight, especially if you cut your carbs.
This.0 -
I don't care if I lose 50lbs of water, as long as I lose 50lbs! LOL Carbs are bad for ME. Not to say I don't eat carbs, I just try and make them count for something nutritionally. Not much nutrition in bread, but it sure tastes good! But so does a bowl of fruit. And at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't. So I choose fruit, over bread. It probably makes it easier for me that I appear to be gluten sensitive....I shouldn't eat bread anyways! LOL
There's plenty of nutrition in bread.
If "at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't" then the bread also offers nutrition that the fruit doesn't.
Logic.1 -
I don't care if I lose 50lbs of water, as long as I lose 50lbs! LOL Carbs are bad for ME. Not to say I don't eat carbs, I just try and make them count for something nutritionally. Not much nutrition in bread, but it sure tastes good! But so does a bowl of fruit. And at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't. So I choose fruit, over bread. It probably makes it easier for me that I appear to be gluten sensitive....I shouldn't eat bread anyways! LOL
There's lots of nutrient dense breads available. Personally I'd chose bread over fruit any day, because I don't really like fruit. Hasn't affected my progress. You prefer to eat lower carb, which is fine, I prefer to eat higher carb and that's fine too. At the end of the day it all comes down to calories
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coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
The key part in your sentence was 'long runs' you are burning the sugars off, you wouldn't have a Gatorade sitting at your desk at work. But the point I was making was that most foods labelled 'low fat' particularly tv meals replace fats for sugar, and fat keeps you satisfied longer than sugar. That's all I meant. It was just something for her to keep in mind.
I have a gatorade sitting at my desk right now, at work. Gotta make sure my blood glucose is at the right point for my run coming up during lunch (A "short run", ie 4 or 5 miles, haven't decided yet).
My point is: Don't be "scared" of any food.
Caution then
No need for fear. Calorie deficit gets the job done. Gatorade & all...
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coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
I was cleaning out some drawers yesterday and came upon some Gu I'd stashed there after getting free in a race packet. I literally screamed in terror!
Well, not literally.
And not at all.
I shuddered, though, since the flavor seemed unappealing.
Those post-race bananas are pretty scary too.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
I was cleaning out some drawers yesterday and came upon some Gu I'd stashed there after getting free in a race packet. I literally screamed in terror!
Well, not literally.
And not at all.
I shuddered, though, since the flavor seemed unappealing.
Those post-race bananas are pretty scary too.
Was it the Double Espresso flavor? I tend to love Gu, but that flavor was one of the nastiest things I've ever had.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
The key part in your sentence was 'long runs' you are burning the sugars off, you wouldn't have a Gatorade sitting at your desk at work. But the point I was making was that most foods labelled 'low fat' particularly tv meals replace fats for sugar, and fat keeps you satisfied longer than sugar. That's all I meant. It was just something for her to keep in mind.
How much fat keeps you satisfied vs. carbs (as this thread is about all carbs) really depends. I find fat completely unsatisfying, so am satisfied just as long for less calories with low fat cottage cheese or yogurt (I tried it the other way, since if I have an excuse to eat more cheese, heck, I'll take it!). Also, I tend to find many starchy foods (like potatoes and sweet potatoes) quite filling. Adding oil or butter to them doesn't make them more filling.
Someone above asserted that only bodybuilders need carbs, which contradicts most of the endurance sport nutrition advice I've read). Also, of course, who cares what we need, as we are always getting more of a particular macro (or sometimes all three) than we technically need. And many foods that supply things we need (like vegetables) in a particular diet are, of course, largely carbs.0 -
Wth is "gu"?
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vivmom2014 wrote: »Wth is "gu"?
It's basically a little packet of flavored sugar gel that you can quickly eat during endurance sports like running or cycling.0 -
I wouldn't recommend it as a snack, but a gel for eating while working out -- like during a long run or bike ride.
https://guenergy.com/shop/energy-gel0 -
I love eating low-carb, high-fat. (Hence my username.) My GI tract is much, much happier and I'm able to easily eat at a deficit without struggle.
However, if I'm losing weight, it's the calorie deficit, not the lack of carbs. Many people successfully lose weight eating carbohydrates.
By no means do I think carbohydrates are the devil and that everyone who eats them is going to die from diabetes or obesity (or both). ;-)
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janejellyroll wrote: »vivmom2014 wrote: »Wth is "gu"?
It's basically a little packet of flavored sugar gel that you can quickly eat during endurance sports like running or cycling.
Ah, okay. I wondered if it was anything like a glucose tablet.
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You wondered about the relationship between carbohydrates and workouts: Simple carbohydrates are often found in bread, snack foods, cereals, pasta and crackers. These are processed quickly, giving your body a fast energy boost, but often resulting in an energy crash later. Complex carbohydrates help keep your body active much longer. They can be found in rice, potatoes and whole grains.
AND STILL WONDERING - You said you are losing slowly. What do you mean? 1/2 lb weekly, 1 lb weekly, 1/4 ... ?????????2 -
jwcanfield wrote: »You wondered about the relationship between carbohydrates and workouts: Simple carbohydrates are often found in bread, snack foods, cereals, pasta and crackers. These are processed quickly, giving your body a fast energy boost, but often resulting in an energy crash later. Complex carbohydrates help keep your body active much longer. They can be found in rice, potatoes and whole grains.
AND STILL WONDERING - You said you are losing slowly. What do you mean? 1/2 lb weekly, 1 lb weekly, 1/4 ... ?????????
Starches are complex carbohydrates -- bread, cereal, and pasta would all be complex carbohydrates. You are correct that many people don't find these very filling (although some people do), but it's more complicated than them being "simple." A simple carbohydrate is like the sugar in candy or soda (or fruit).0 -
You may want to split up your macros a bit differently. Looks like you have them set to the MFP standard. I'd increase your protein and fat and decrease the carbs. Do you like sweet potatoes? I find them more filling then regular potatoes and they aren't as starchy. I would also limit yourself to one piece of fruit at a time instead of having two. And lastly, try to cut out some of the processed foods. Good luck to you!2
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Yeah, keto'ers can be a little overzealous, I've found.vivmom2014 wrote: »
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allipops26 wrote: »Hi I was looking at my nutrition report and I think I am having too many carbs. Maybe that's why my weight loss is slow. I usually have porridge for breakfast , a salad for lunch and chicken, veg and potatoes for dinner. I thought I was eating healthy, but does anyone think I am going wrong ?
I believe my diary is open.
Thanks
Carbs per se won't slow down your weight loss. If carbs satiate you, you're fine. I look at my macros to make sure I am getting filling meals. When I do that, I can skip a snack.0 -
vivmom2014 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »vivmom2014 wrote: »Wth is "gu"?
It's basically a little packet of flavored sugar gel that you can quickly eat during endurance sports like running or cycling.
Ah, okay. I wondered if it was anything like a glucose tablet.
Kinda the same idea: Easily digestible sugars (Plus some electrolytes), in a gel form so you can consume it easily during long events (hour+).0 -
Yeah, keto'ers can be a little overzealous, I've found.vivmom2014 wrote: »
Q: You wanna know how to figure out if someone does Keto?
A: Don't worry! They'll farking tell you!
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Thanks for all the replies i do weight absolutely everything. Although i admit i sometimes miss logging the odd meal. I will take on board all your comments and look at the suggested reading. Thanks again0
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OP, calories are for weight loss/gain.
Macros are for satiety, some fitness goals, and some medical issues.
Exercise is for fitness and can buy you a few extra calories to eat.
As long as your calories are in line, your macros won't affect weight loss.
If you are struggling to stay within your calorie goal, experimenting with your macros might help, but don't sweat the small stuff if everything is going well! Good luck!
And just had to add, these threads would not devolve into a carb argument if there wasn't always one or two people who have to generalize that "Carbs make you hungrier! Carbs make you crave more carbs! Carbs aren't healthy!". Those things are true for some people, but not for all of us. I tend to eat over 175g of carbs every day, I never feel hungry or binge on them, and my blood glucose, blood pressure, and weight are all right in line. In fact, when I accidentally eat low carb I feel sluggish and ornery. Balanced macros work best for me.2 -
Mirabelle1983 wrote: »ubermofish wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Wut?
Carbs are not the enemy.
Explain how many have lost weight on moderate to high carb?
Hint: Carbs have nothing to do with wight loss..it's all about consuming less calories than your body needs to maintain weight.
Oh....10lbs in 2 weeks is surely water weight, especially if you cut your carbs.
I definitely see more water retention with more carbs, which falls off easily when consuming fewer. But it's just that - water. I think that a lot of the success with LCHF is the increased satiety from fat and protein, carbs seem to absorb quickly and leave you hungry, while protein and fat are slower burners.
That's not to say that carbs are inherently bad, it's just easier to overindulge on them.
I completely agree with your comments.. that's why a lot of low carbers want to recommend it to others but people get confused with the comment and think the low carber is trying to tell everyone they will lose weight just by cutting carbs and nothing else.
But the satiety you get on a low carb is very real and so good for people who can't help but overindulge on high sugar/carb food - and the water weight you lose initially can be a real kick start for some people who want to see quick results on the scales.
Well, I did low carb, and keto for at least 6 months.
It wasn't for me.
I was hungry and miserable all the time.\
Many low carber recommend not calorie counting. To me, that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Overeating on fat is very, very easy.
If I want to get rid of 'water weight', I'll drink water and continue to eat carbs. If LC works for you, then all the power to you, but it personally wasn't good for me.0 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Mirabelle1983 wrote: »ubermofish wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Wut?
Carbs are not the enemy.
Explain how many have lost weight on moderate to high carb?
Hint: Carbs have nothing to do with wight loss..it's all about consuming less calories than your body needs to maintain weight.
Oh....10lbs in 2 weeks is surely water weight, especially if you cut your carbs.
I definitely see more water retention with more carbs, which falls off easily when consuming fewer. But it's just that - water. I think that a lot of the success with LCHF is the increased satiety from fat and protein, carbs seem to absorb quickly and leave you hungry, while protein and fat are slower burners.
That's not to say that carbs are inherently bad, it's just easier to overindulge on them.
I completely agree with your comments.. that's why a lot of low carbers want to recommend it to others but people get confused with the comment and think the low carber is trying to tell everyone they will lose weight just by cutting carbs and nothing else.
But the satiety you get on a low carb is very real and so good for people who can't help but overindulge on high sugar/carb food - and the water weight you lose initially can be a real kick start for some people who want to see quick results on the scales.
Well, I did low carb, and keto for at least 6 months.
It wasn't for me.
I was hungry and miserable all the time.\
Many low carber recommend not calorie counting. To me, that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Overeating on fat is very, very easy.
If I want to get rid of 'water weight', I'll drink water and continue to eat carbs. If LC works for you, then all the power to you, but it personally wasn't good for me.
That's a shame. The majority of people find it very successful. But we are all different, that's why there's so many different ways of eating out there that we can experiment with and find the ideal approach for each of us 2 -
I was eating on a LCHF menu. I did lose weight. I have adjusted the carbs some; making wiser choices. Do I eat carbs, yes. I do try and limit my sugars as I don't like feeling sluggish when I eat cake/cupcakes etc.
There are so many options and choices, you have to do what is best for you.
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I have zero medical "need" to reduce carbs but decided to give it a try a year ago. I also eat high fat.
I'll never go back.
Do what you want. You don't have to have a metabolic disorder to choose different foods.
It's YOUR decision.0 -
Personally this thread has been one of the most important, informative threads I've ever seen on MFP! As a newbie, I've learned alot--thank you!1
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Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
There are many nutritious whole food carbohydrates...there's absolutely nothing wrong with them...and ironically, blue zone regions of the world tend to eat diets relatively high in carbohydrates and yet they are some of the healthiest populations in the world.
10 Lbs in two weeks is in large part a glycogen dump.0 -
Necro thread....
But also. Gu is a brand of dessert here in the U.K., really really indulgent desserts. So now I want a millionaires cheesecake at nearly midnight!0
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