Too many carbs?
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coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
The key part in your sentence was 'long runs' you are burning the sugars off, you wouldn't have a Gatorade sitting at your desk at work. But the point I was making was that most foods labelled 'low fat' particularly tv meals replace fats for sugar, and fat keeps you satisfied longer than sugar. That's all I meant. It was just something for her to keep in mind.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
The key part in your sentence was 'long runs' you are burning the sugars off, you wouldn't have a Gatorade sitting at your desk at work. But the point I was making was that most foods labelled 'low fat' particularly tv meals replace fats for sugar, and fat keeps you satisfied longer than sugar. That's all I meant. It was just something for her to keep in mind.
I have a gatorade sitting at my desk right now, at work. Gotta make sure my blood glucose is at the right point for my run coming up during lunch (A "short run", ie 4 or 5 miles, haven't decided yet).
My point is: Don't be "scared" of any food.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
The key part in your sentence was 'long runs' you are burning the sugars off, you wouldn't have a Gatorade sitting at your desk at work. But the point I was making was that most foods labelled 'low fat' particularly tv meals replace fats for sugar, and fat keeps you satisfied longer than sugar. That's all I meant. It was just something for her to keep in mind.
I have a gatorade sitting at my desk right now, at work. Gotta make sure my blood glucose is at the right point for my run coming up during lunch (A "short run", ie 4 or 5 miles, haven't decided yet).
My point is: Don't be "scared" of any food.
Caution then
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Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
Wut?
Carbs are not the enemy.
Explain how many have lost weight on moderate to high carb?
Hint: Carbs have nothing to do with wight loss..it's all about consuming less calories than your body needs to maintain weight.
Oh....10lbs in 2 weeks is surely water weight, especially if you cut your carbs.2 -
Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
No, it's not. The reality is that authoritynutrition gets nearly everything wrong. As a rule - if AN says one thing, the exact opposite is probably the truth.5 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Wut?
Carbs are not the enemy.
Explain how many have lost weight on moderate to high carb?
Hint: Carbs have nothing to do with wight loss..it's all about consuming less calories than your body needs to maintain weight.
Oh....10lbs in 2 weeks is surely water weight, especially if you cut your carbs.
I definitely see more water retention with more carbs, which falls off easily when consuming fewer. But it's just that - water. I think that a lot of the success with LCHF is the increased satiety from fat and protein, carbs seem to absorb quickly and leave you hungry, while protein and fat are slower burners.
That's not to say that carbs are inherently bad, it's just easier to overindulge on them.0 -
ubermofish wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Wut?
Carbs are not the enemy.
Explain how many have lost weight on moderate to high carb?
Hint: Carbs have nothing to do with wight loss..it's all about consuming less calories than your body needs to maintain weight.
Oh....10lbs in 2 weeks is surely water weight, especially if you cut your carbs.
I definitely see more water retention with more carbs, which falls off easily when consuming fewer. But it's just that - water. I think that a lot of the success with LCHF is the increased satiety from fat and protein, carbs seem to absorb quickly and leave you hungry, while protein and fat are slower burners.
That's not to say that carbs are inherently bad, it's just easier to overindulge on them.
I completely agree with your comments.. that's why a lot of low carbers want to recommend it to others but people get confused with the comment and think the low carber is trying to tell everyone they will lose weight just by cutting carbs and nothing else.
But the satiety you get on a low carb is very real and so good for people who can't help but overindulge on high sugar/carb food - and the water weight you lose initially can be a real kick start for some people who want to see quick results on the scales.
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I don't care if I lose 50lbs of water, as long as I lose 50lbs! LOL Carbs are bad for ME. Not to say I don't eat carbs, I just try and make them count for something nutritionally. Not much nutrition in bread, but it sure tastes good! But so does a bowl of fruit. And at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't. So I choose fruit, over bread. It probably makes it easier for me that I appear to be gluten sensitive....I shouldn't eat bread anyways! LOL1
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I don't care if I lose 50lbs of water, as long as I lose 50lbs! LOL Carbs are bad for ME. Not to say I don't eat carbs, I just try and make them count for something nutritionally. Not much nutrition in bread, but it sure tastes good! But so does a bowl of fruit. And at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't. So I choose fruit, over bread. It probably makes it easier for me that I appear to be gluten sensitive....I shouldn't eat bread anyways! LOL
But most of the calories in fruit come from . . . carbohydrates. I can understand preferring certain sources of carbohydrates over others, but if carbohydrates are bad for you, why eat fruit?1 -
Not even close...Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
CICO...Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
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@Gun4aCarbs are body's preferred source of energy. If you don't work out hard, you don't really need that many carbs throughout the day, hence the "low carb/high fat diet works for so many people.
Not getting your point at all. I had 479g of carbs on Saturday which I would guess you would call high carb. I was in a calorie deficit and exceeded my protein and fat goals too.
Please explain the negative effects.2 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
Wut?
Carbs are not the enemy.
Explain how many have lost weight on moderate to high carb?
Hint: Carbs have nothing to do with wight loss..it's all about consuming less calories than your body needs to maintain weight.
Oh....10lbs in 2 weeks is surely water weight, especially if you cut your carbs.
This.0 -
I don't care if I lose 50lbs of water, as long as I lose 50lbs! LOL Carbs are bad for ME. Not to say I don't eat carbs, I just try and make them count for something nutritionally. Not much nutrition in bread, but it sure tastes good! But so does a bowl of fruit. And at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't. So I choose fruit, over bread. It probably makes it easier for me that I appear to be gluten sensitive....I shouldn't eat bread anyways! LOL
There's plenty of nutrition in bread.
If "at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't" then the bread also offers nutrition that the fruit doesn't.
Logic.1 -
I don't care if I lose 50lbs of water, as long as I lose 50lbs! LOL Carbs are bad for ME. Not to say I don't eat carbs, I just try and make them count for something nutritionally. Not much nutrition in bread, but it sure tastes good! But so does a bowl of fruit. And at least the fruit offers nutrition that the bread doesn't. So I choose fruit, over bread. It probably makes it easier for me that I appear to be gluten sensitive....I shouldn't eat bread anyways! LOL
There's lots of nutrient dense breads available. Personally I'd chose bread over fruit any day, because I don't really like fruit. Hasn't affected my progress. You prefer to eat lower carb, which is fine, I prefer to eat higher carb and that's fine too. At the end of the day it all comes down to calories
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coreyreichle wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
The key part in your sentence was 'long runs' you are burning the sugars off, you wouldn't have a Gatorade sitting at your desk at work. But the point I was making was that most foods labelled 'low fat' particularly tv meals replace fats for sugar, and fat keeps you satisfied longer than sugar. That's all I meant. It was just something for her to keep in mind.
I have a gatorade sitting at my desk right now, at work. Gotta make sure my blood glucose is at the right point for my run coming up during lunch (A "short run", ie 4 or 5 miles, haven't decided yet).
My point is: Don't be "scared" of any food.
Caution then
No need for fear. Calorie deficit gets the job done. Gatorade & all...
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coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
I was cleaning out some drawers yesterday and came upon some Gu I'd stashed there after getting free in a race packet. I literally screamed in terror!
Well, not literally.
And not at all.
I shuddered, though, since the flavor seemed unappealing.
Those post-race bananas are pretty scary too.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
I was cleaning out some drawers yesterday and came upon some Gu I'd stashed there after getting free in a race packet. I literally screamed in terror!
Well, not literally.
And not at all.
I shuddered, though, since the flavor seemed unappealing.
Those post-race bananas are pretty scary too.
Was it the Double Espresso flavor? I tend to love Gu, but that flavor was one of the nastiest things I've ever had.0 -
coreyreichle wrote: »Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Spend some time on the Internet searching out "High Fat Low Carb"
www.dietdoctor.com is a great place to start.
Carbs are NOT as good as people think. Only good for body builders.
I've lost 10 stubborn pounds in the last 2 weeks.
Cheers
www.authoritynutrition.com is also a good source of info, but I learnt a lot from dietdoctor.
Don't be scared of fat! Be scared of sugar. A lot of low-fat food is high in sugar. Just something to note.
Why should I be scared of sugar? Should my Gu's cause me to be frightened when I down them during my long runs? Should I stop drinking Gatorade post-run?
The key part in your sentence was 'long runs' you are burning the sugars off, you wouldn't have a Gatorade sitting at your desk at work. But the point I was making was that most foods labelled 'low fat' particularly tv meals replace fats for sugar, and fat keeps you satisfied longer than sugar. That's all I meant. It was just something for her to keep in mind.
How much fat keeps you satisfied vs. carbs (as this thread is about all carbs) really depends. I find fat completely unsatisfying, so am satisfied just as long for less calories with low fat cottage cheese or yogurt (I tried it the other way, since if I have an excuse to eat more cheese, heck, I'll take it!). Also, I tend to find many starchy foods (like potatoes and sweet potatoes) quite filling. Adding oil or butter to them doesn't make them more filling.
Someone above asserted that only bodybuilders need carbs, which contradicts most of the endurance sport nutrition advice I've read). Also, of course, who cares what we need, as we are always getting more of a particular macro (or sometimes all three) than we technically need. And many foods that supply things we need (like vegetables) in a particular diet are, of course, largely carbs.0 -
Wth is "gu"?
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vivmom2014 wrote: »Wth is "gu"?
It's basically a little packet of flavored sugar gel that you can quickly eat during endurance sports like running or cycling.0
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