Bikini competition
des0123
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I would like to enter in. But I need the knowledge first! Any advice ? Or tips? Currently i'm struggling with lowering my body fat percentage. It's not high but not where I would like it to be. Thanks!
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i think most of the girls in bikini competitions have coaches. Find a coach, they will guide you through the process with training and diet and getting you stage ready.3
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Bikini competitors are bodybuilders...it doesn't take being slim, it takes having muscles and being at the appropriate body fat % for the bikini competition aesthetic
I agree with the advice above, hire a coach and work on your musculature3 -
Thank you !0
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Bikini competitors are bodybuilders...it doesn't take being slim, it takes having muscles and being at the appropriate body fat % for the bikini competition aesthetic
I agree with the advice above, hire a coach and work on your musculature
There's a big difference between female bodybuilders and bikini competitors. Bikini is about aesthetics while bodybuilding is about symmetry/definition and musculature. You don't have to be really muscular to compete in bikini competitions. You just have to have good aesthetics, not too much muscle and not too much definition, very doable. Above advice about getting a coach is best. They will come up with a good work out and eating plan to achieve your goal. It's not something you want to try to do on your own if you want to be competitive.1 -
Bikini competitors are bodybuilders...it doesn't take being slim, it takes having muscles and being at the appropriate body fat % for the bikini competition aesthetic
I agree with the advice above, hire a coach and work on your musculature
There's a big difference between female bodybuilders and bikini competitors. Bikini is about aesthetics while bodybuilding is about symmetry/definition and musculature. You don't have to be really muscular to compete in bikini competitions. You just have to have good aesthetics, not too much muscle and not too much definition, very doable. Above advice about getting a coach is best. They will come up with a good work out and eating plan to achieve your goal. It's not something you want to try to do on your own if you want to be competitive.
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I think bikini competitors are bodybuilders...focusing on body aesthetics, training, lifting, cutting, symmetry
Of course you don't aim for muscle bulk in the same way as other categories, but how is it not bodybuilding?2 -
Bikini competitors are bodybuilders...it doesn't take being slim, it takes having muscles and being at the appropriate body fat % for the bikini competition aesthetic
I agree with the advice above, hire a coach and work on your musculature
There's a big difference between female bodybuilders and bikini competitors. Bikini is about aesthetics while bodybuilding is about symmetry/definition and musculature. You don't have to be really muscular to compete in bikini competitions. You just have to have good aesthetics, not too much muscle and not too much definition, very doable. Above advice about getting a coach is best. They will come up with a good work out and eating plan to achieve your goal. It's not something you want to try to do on your own if you want to be competitive.
in response to this i'm going to post a visual...
Yes, you cannot be too big in bikini, but on the other hand, you aren't doing yourself any favors without a good musculature base. You need a coach, but you need to have atleast some time (6 months minimum) of lifting experience. Competing also requires posing, the right bikini, the right tan, the right accessories, and the whole overall package. Here's what i said to a previous poster asking about this.
"that depends on how good you want to look for your first competition.
More and more i'm seeing girls compete in bikini that are simply lean-as-all-hell without having any real muscle mass. It's like the thing to do once you've lost weight, because you "deserve" it, and you're "only competing against yourself", and "it's a visual representation of all my hard work", etc. etc. If you're one of these people, yeah, it just requires some serious dieting/carb manipulating/water draining/tanning/bikini wearing and it's like a fashion show.
Now, if you want to be a serious competitor or rival physiques of the top women in even the bikini class (which is the softest class of bb), it takes MINIMUM 3-4 years of lifting and building out certain areas, working on hypertophy, symmetry, and overall physique, etc.
Here's a good visual example of the range i've seen in the bikini class....
to the astounding Mrs. Kaltwasser
I'm sure you can see the difference between the women i'm talking about vs. someone who has one of the best physiques in the world. I'm not saying you need to be prime/perfect, but i feel it's doing the class a disservice competing when you aren't anywhere near ready.
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I think bikini competitors are bodybuilders...focusing on body aesthetics, training, lifting, cutting, symmetry
Of course you don't aim for muscle bulk in the same way as other categories, but how is it not bodybuilding?
Because bodybuilding is specifically the attempt to build muscle. As a bikini competitor, building muscle isn't necessarily the focus, it's just getting a pleasing and aesthetic physique, which doesn't require a lot of muscle or definition. That's why you wouldn't classify bikini competitors as bodybuilders. Their purpose isn't strictly to gain muscle.0 -
Abso-bloody-lutely @rainbowbow0
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I think bikini competitors are bodybuilders...focusing on body aesthetics, training, lifting, cutting, symmetry
Of course you don't aim for muscle bulk in the same way as other categories, but how is it not bodybuilding?
Because bodybuilding is specifically the attempt to build muscle. As a bikini competitor, building muscle isn't necessarily the focus, it's just getting a pleasing and aesthetic physique, which doesn't require a lot of muscle or definition. That's why you wouldn't classify bikini competitors as bodybuilders. Their purpose isn't strictly to gain muscle.
Let's agree to disagree about the definition of bodybuilding as to me it is a body aesthetic you work for through diet and progressive resistance, no matter the size or aesthetic
Piece of fluff article http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/which-body-do-you-want.html1 -
I think bikini competitors are bodybuilders...focusing on body aesthetics, training, lifting, cutting, symmetry
Of course you don't aim for muscle bulk in the same way as other categories, but how is it not bodybuilding?
Because bodybuilding is specifically the attempt to build muscle. As a bikini competitor, building muscle isn't necessarily the focus, it's just getting a pleasing and aesthetic physique, which doesn't require a lot of muscle or definition. That's why you wouldn't classify bikini competitors as bodybuilders. Their purpose isn't strictly to gain muscle.
Let's agree to disagree about the definition of bodybuilding as to me it is a body aesthetic you work for through diet and progressive resistance, no matter the size or aesthetic
Piece of fluff article http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/which-body-do-you-want.html
That's cool, we both just have different understandings of what it is to be a bikini competitor and a bodybuilder. That's why they have different classes. You'll never hear a bikini model claim to be a bodybuilder and never hear a bodybuilder claim to be a bikini competitor.0 -
Both building a body through diet and resistance
Even the term "bikini model" patriarchally dismisses the work that goes into it...these girls sweat in the gym, lift heavy, monitor their diets, take their supplements as would any "bodybuilder" of your definition1 -
Both building a body through diet and resistance
Even the term "bikini model" patriarchally dismisses the work that goes into it...these girls sweat in the gym, lift heavy, monitor their diets, take their supplements as would any "bodybuilder" of your definition
Never mind, you're not getting what I'm saying. It's about the focus of what you're trying to achieve. Bodybuilders are focused on building muscle (size matters) while bikin models are just focused on looking lean and shapely (building muscle may not be required and actually losing muscle may be necessary).
Websters definition of bodybuilding: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bodybuilding
Cambridge dictionary of bodybuilding: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/bodybuilding
Purpose, to build the muscles of the body.0 -
I've read too many stories of ladies who have dieted down, done a bikini competition to show off their new bodies, and been pretty seriously disappointed in the experience due to their poor showing based on lack of a nice muscle base to say that serious bikini competitors do not need muscle. Yes you have to be shapely and lean but muscle comes into play if you want to compete and not simply participate.0
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I've read too many stories of ladies who have dieted down, done a bikini competition to show off their new bodies, and been pretty seriously disappointed in the experience due to their poor showing based on lack of a nice muscle base to say that serious bikini competitors do not need muscle. Yes you have to be shapely and lean but muscle comes into play if you want to compete and not simply participate.
and think about the financial aspect as well... if i'm going to compete, i'm there to win. I don't know about you, but i don't have a couple G's to drop on a "competition" just to participate.0 -
I've read too many stories of ladies who have dieted down, done a bikini competition to show off their new bodies, and been pretty seriously disappointed in the experience due to their poor showing based on lack of a nice muscle base to say that serious bikini competitors do not need muscle. Yes you have to be shapely and lean but muscle comes into play if you want to compete and not simply participate.
Hmm, I wasn't saying that bikini competitors didn't need muscle. Maybe I'm not expressing myself in a way that makes sense. Rabbitjb was just saying that a bikini competitor is the same as a bodybuilder, which isn't the case. If it was, then there wouldn't be any distinguishing classes. The purpose of bikini classes is not to get as muscular as possible, which is what the emphasis (albeit with other considerations) in the bodybuilding class. I am not trying to disparage any of the hard work that bikini competitors put in but the work being done is different between the two. Some bikini competitors don't need to gain muscle, some need to, while others need to lose muscle to get into the class. My point was that there is a difference between what it is to be a female bodybuilder as compared to what it is to be a bikini competitor. Like apples and oranges, both are fruit but are completely different things.1 -
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I've read too many stories of ladies who have dieted down, done a bikini competition to show off their new bodies, and been pretty seriously disappointed in the experience due to their poor showing based on lack of a nice muscle base to say that serious bikini competitors do not need muscle. Yes you have to be shapely and lean but muscle comes into play if you want to compete and not simply participate.
Hmm, I wasn't saying that bikini competitors didn't need muscle. Maybe I'm not expressing myself in a way that makes sense. Rabbitjb was just saying that a bikini competitor is the same as a bodybuilder, which isn't the case. If it was, then there wouldn't be any distinguishing classes. The purpose of bikini classes is not to get as muscular as possible, which is what the emphasis (albeit with other considerations) in the bodybuilding class. I am not trying to disparage any of the hard work that bikini competitors put in but the work being done is different between the two. Some bikini competitors don't need to gain muscle, some need to, while others need to lose muscle to get into the class. My point was that there is a difference between what it is to be a female bodybuilder as compared to what it is to be a bikini competitor. Like apples and oranges, both are fruit but are completely different things.
i think i understand what you're trying to say...
But for women we have bikini, physique, bodybuilding, and fitness classes for competition. Although i think they all technically fall under the category of "bodybuilding" whether it be building the body for 1 look vs. the other. Essentially, yes, they may not be expressly "gaining muscle" in the bikini category, my point was that you MUST have a good amount of muscle mass to compete and do well. The most defining factor of bikini is not necissarily small muscle mass, but moreso a balanced physique and not TOO lean (with the highest body fat percentage/softer look). This still requires training for this look specifically and having a pretty decent amount of muscle mass for a woman.
I mean, come on... the next category up is physique.
She's not even in the "bodybuilding" class, and we all know she's had to take hormones to get to this level.
I think bikini, like Ashley Kaltwasser for example, is in the upper end of attainable muscle mass/physique that can be achieved without roiding. And this is years of gaining muscle/training for this physique. Potato Potahto, i think it's "bodybuilding".0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »I've read too many stories of ladies who have dieted down, done a bikini competition to show off their new bodies, and been pretty seriously disappointed in the experience due to their poor showing based on lack of a nice muscle base to say that serious bikini competitors do not need muscle. Yes you have to be shapely and lean but muscle comes into play if you want to compete and not simply participate.
Hmm, I wasn't saying that bikini competitors didn't need muscle. Maybe I'm not expressing myself in a way that makes sense. Rabbitjb was just saying that a bikini competitor is the same as a bodybuilder, which isn't the case. If it was, then there wouldn't be any distinguishing classes. The purpose of bikini classes is not to get as muscular as possible, which is what the emphasis (albeit with other considerations) in the bodybuilding class. I am not trying to disparage any of the hard work that bikini competitors put in but the work being done is different between the two. Some bikini competitors don't need to gain muscle, some need to, while others need to lose muscle to get into the class. My point was that there is a difference between what it is to be a female bodybuilder as compared to what it is to be a bikini competitor. Like apples and oranges, both are fruit but are completely different things.
i think i understand what you're trying to say...
But for women we have bikini, physique, bodybuilding, and fitness classes for competition. Although i think they all technically fall under the category of "bodybuilding" whether it be building the body for 1 look vs. the other. Essentially, yes, they may not be expressly "gaining muscle" in the bikini category, my point was that you MUST have a good amount of muscle mass to compete and do well. The most defining factor of bikini is not necissarily small muscle mass, but moreso a balanced physique and not TOO lean (with the highest body fat percentage/softer look). This still requires training for this look specifically and having a pretty decent amount of muscle mass for a woman.
I mean, come on... the next category up is physique.
She's not even in the "bodybuilding" class, and we all know she's had to take hormones to get to this level.
I think bikini, like Ashley Kaltwasser for example, is in the upper end of attainable muscle mass/physique that can be achieved without roiding. And this is years of gaining muscle/training for this physique. Potato Potahto, i think it's "bodybuilding".
I see what you're saying. You're using the term "bodybuilding" as a generic term for the entire competitive sport, regardless of class. Much like how you would call a boxer a boxer, regardless of weight class. I'm thinking of it more like different sports. For example, you wouldn't call a UFC fighter a boxer even if he/she is focused on being a striker.
Anyway, Dana Linn Bailey claims to be natural. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. They don't test, so until they do we won't know. If she isn't juicing, then she's got some phenomenal genetics.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »I've read too many stories of ladies who have dieted down, done a bikini competition to show off their new bodies, and been pretty seriously disappointed in the experience due to their poor showing based on lack of a nice muscle base to say that serious bikini competitors do not need muscle. Yes you have to be shapely and lean but muscle comes into play if you want to compete and not simply participate.
Hmm, I wasn't saying that bikini competitors didn't need muscle. Maybe I'm not expressing myself in a way that makes sense. Rabbitjb was just saying that a bikini competitor is the same as a bodybuilder, which isn't the case. If it was, then there wouldn't be any distinguishing classes. The purpose of bikini classes is not to get as muscular as possible, which is what the emphasis (albeit with other considerations) in the bodybuilding class. I am not trying to disparage any of the hard work that bikini competitors put in but the work being done is different between the two. Some bikini competitors don't need to gain muscle, some need to, while others need to lose muscle to get into the class. My point was that there is a difference between what it is to be a female bodybuilder as compared to what it is to be a bikini competitor. Like apples and oranges, both are fruit but are completely different things.
i think i understand what you're trying to say...
But for women we have bikini, physique, bodybuilding, and fitness classes for competition. Although i think they all technically fall under the category of "bodybuilding" whether it be building the body for 1 look vs. the other. Essentially, yes, they may not be expressly "gaining muscle" in the bikini category, my point was that you MUST have a good amount of muscle mass to compete and do well. The most defining factor of bikini is not necissarily small muscle mass, but moreso a balanced physique and not TOO lean (with the highest body fat percentage/softer look). This still requires training for this look specifically and having a pretty decent amount of muscle mass for a woman.
I mean, come on... the next category up is physique.
She's not even in the "bodybuilding" class, and we all know she's had to take hormones to get to this level.
I think bikini, like Ashley Kaltwasser for example, is in the upper end of attainable muscle mass/physique that can be achieved without roiding. And this is years of gaining muscle/training for this physique. Potato Potahto, i think it's "bodybuilding".
I see what you're saying. You're using the term "bodybuilding" as a generic term for the entire competitive sport, regardless of class. Much like how you would call a boxer a boxer, regardless of weight class. I'm thinking of it more like different sports. For example, you wouldn't call a UFC fighter a boxer even if he/she is focused on being a striker.
Anyway, Dana Linn Bailey claims to be natural. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. They don't test, so until they do we won't know. If she isn't juicing, then she's got some phenomenal genetics.
This is unfortunately the way of the sport. I think it's pretty obvious that she is not natty and could not be natty. She has all the features of someone who has taken test for a long period of time including the squared jawline, more masculine facial features, change in voice (deeper), etc. There are 0 doubts that she's not natty.
But i personally see nothing wrong with this as she's still put in the hard work and effort to attain this physique. Because steroids are illegal all of these competitors who are clearly juicing must put up this facade that they are "natural". It would ruin their entire reputation/sponserships/eligibility otherwise. I mean look at men competing today... Arnold admits that he was using steriods heavily and i'm seeing guys HUGE way past their genetic potential who are "natty".
I mean, i know girls competing in bikini even who are taking anavar
Anyways, i'm glad you get my point. Yes, i'm using bodybuilding (and i think the other are too) as the generic term for the entire competitive sport regardless of class.0 -
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Im trying to compete, not participate. I have been lifting and weight training for a little over two years. I definitely need more experience but from what I'm reading I definitely need a coach! Thank you all for your feedback. Please keep sending more info! The more the merrier
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that a lot of the bikini competitors have breast implants, or feel pressured to get them, if they're serious about competing and it's not just a one-time thing to celebrate a significant weight loss. This may or may not be an issue for you, just surprised it hasn't been mentioned.0
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Im trying to compete, not participate. I have been lifting and weight training for a little over two years. I definitely need more experience but from what I'm reading I definitely need a coach! Thank you all for your feedback. Please keep sending more info! The more the merrier
you may find if you go to "just compete" that it is more than just a competition on who has the better body. Its a sport, with sportsmanship and politics and friends and who you know , and who you are with, and cattiness and camaraderie and everything that goes with competitive sports. If you just show up to "compete" you may be eaten alive. You should go with the attitude of participating you will get farther and enjoy it more for all it has to offer which can be a great experience. I'm just saying this coming from many decades of experience in competitive sports. Go with a coach and an open mind and open heart, it can be much more than just a competition and a trophy.2 -
Im trying to compete, not participate. I have been lifting and weight training for a little over two years. I definitely need more experience but from what I'm reading I definitely need a coach! Thank you all for your feedback. Please keep sending more info! The more the merrier
you may find if you go to "just compete" that it is more than just a competition on who has the better body. Its a sport, with sportsmanship and politics and friends and who you know , and who you are with, and cattiness and camaraderie and everything that goes with competitive sports. If you just show up to "compete" you may be eaten alive. You should go with the attitude of participating you will get farther and enjoy it more for all it has to offer which can be a great experience. I'm just saying this coming from many decades of experience in competitive sports. Go with a coach and an open mind and open heart, it can be much more than just a competition and a trophy.
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