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elishiaf1984 wrote: »Can you switch to coke zero and limit it to one a day? Dieting shouldn't be giving up everything you love just modifying it... Instead of calorie infested regular Coke, go for a Coke Zero.
This. It's likely the caffeine you are missing. Try tea or coffee in place of the soda when you crave it real bad. Might help.
I drink diet Pepsi and want to get off it one day but focusing more on the weight loss right now. I will conquer the soda one later
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vikinglander wrote: »...and the debate rages! Funny, I didn't see anyone mention caffeine, per se. That could be the cause of your late night pacing. Any headaches?
I did...he gets lots of caffeine from the tea he drinks...more than what is in a cup of coke.0 -
All soda is bad. High Fructose Corn Syrup causes rapid weight gain and impacts your cognitive ability - just google it and read some of the studies it's pretty scary. Diet soda is deceiving since it has no calories but since your body can't metabolize it, you end up storing more fat. Recent studies show that diet sodas and artificial "zero calorie" sweeteners actually cause you to GAIN MORE WEIGHT! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
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I appreciate all the feedback. To touch on a couple points mentioned. I can't stand the taste of artificial sweeteners, I'll skip completely before drinking diet. Second. The difference between apple juice and soda is I will drink 8 oz of apple juice and be ok. Beats the big gulp coke I would have gotten. And if I take one, I'll take one more, then one more, then 15 more....
The good news is, the craving has passed, I drank my gallon+ of water today and I'm doing pretty good
I think you are focusing on exactly the right thing. Living with a constant sugar drip apparently (if you believe the current thinking) changes your physiology in profound ways, even leading to diabetes in many cases. So keep up the fantastic work! I can imagine that it will take some adjustment as every cell in your body screams for that sugar. Having greatly reduced my intake of sugar I can tell you that it quiets down. My latest afternoon snack is a whole orange. All 70 calories are from sugar, but you also get the fiber and vitamins. (I enjoy peeling them by hand, where you get the feel, smell, and taste for a multi-sensory experience.)
Also: there's nothing particularly good about artificial sweeteners. I am afraid I lean too heavily on aspartame in that I put a packet in my tea at least three times every stinkin' day. Maybe I'll go back to sugar once I reach my weight goal...0 -
I've been off coke (the drink)for 8 days and have amazing results but....I want one so bad I couldn't sleep last night! I was prowling around my kitchen like an addict going through withdrawals. My mouth is watering just thinking about it.
Please everyone else tell me how long you have been soda free! I really need some encouragement.
Yeah I'm the same, though I have coke zero. I get sugar spikes/drop if I have the regular stuff.0 -
glenneric913 wrote: »All soda is bad. High Fructose Corn Syrup causes rapid weight gain and impacts your cognitive ability - just google it and read some of the studies it's pretty scary. Diet soda is deceiving since it has no calories but since your body can't metabolize it, you end up storing more fat. Recent studies show that diet sodas and artificial "zero calorie" sweeteners actually cause you to GAIN MORE WEIGHT! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
Be careful, people are getting easily offended when you talk bad about their treasured junk food. Truth is often offensive.
None of what he stated is even in the same ballpark as truth.0 -
I drink a Dr. Pepper every day. Just one. 12 ounces. It's heaven.1
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MommyL2015 wrote: »None of what he stated is even in the same ballpark as truth.
"Soda is bad" as a claim is apparently offensive enough to be flagged for abuse.
Some people cling to their vices with a death grip, and will defend their habits violently regardless of other ideas being presented to them. It's a deeper sign of intolerance, but generally I find it sad when people are so close-minded that new ideas sound like fighting words to them. I'm not offended when someone claims diet soda is good for you, it offers me an opportunity for a conversation, whether the outcome is us both agreeing to disagree or not. The difference is the right evidence might change my mind, whereas other people refuse to allow their minds to be changed, and they'll be offended at the idea you're trying to change their mind.
How do we evaluate the "right evidence" that might change your mind?
My criteria is that it needs to be peer-reviewed by experts within the field.
I have not seen any credible evidence that drinking diet sodas tricks the body into storing fat.
Furthermore, this claim flies in the face of physics: energy doesn't come from nowhere. Nothing about a diet soda lets your body both burn a calorie AND store it as fat. You consume X calories per day, and your body burns Y calories in that day. If X-Y < 0, you are in a deficit, regardless of whether you also had some nutrasweet that day or not.
Since diet soda does not add a significant source of calories, the only way for it to "trick the body into producing fat" would be if it reduces the caloric burn. This mechanism has NOT been demonstrated in peer-reviewed research. AND i personally know plenty of anecdotal examples of people successfully losing weight and maintaining healthy weight while drinking diet soda.
So... i'm not intolerant of new evidence. Just a bit tired of seeing the same bad evidence trotted out repeatedly. I don't even mind how boring it is - but i do mind that it can mislead people who are really struggling with ways to adopt new, healthier lifestyles.6 -
MommyL2015 wrote: »None of what he stated is even in the same ballpark as truth.
"Soda is bad" as a claim is apparently offensive enough to be flagged for abuse.
Some people cling to their vices with a death grip, and will defend their habits violently regardless of other ideas being presented to them. It's a deeper sign of intolerance, but generally I find it sad when people are so close-minded that new ideas sound like fighting words to them. I'm not offended when someone claims diet soda is good for you, it offers me an opportunity for a conversation, whether the outcome is us both agreeing to disagree or not. The difference is the right evidence might change my mind, whereas other people refuse to allow their minds to be changed, and they'll be offended at the idea you're trying to change their mind.
Well, if you have some new evidence that could change my mind, I'd like to see it. Please. And I am not defending anything but facts, that's all, and the post you quoted didn't contain any. I don't care what people eat or drink or don't, but the whole "diet soda/artificial sweeteners are evil" argument is old. If it was a dead horse, all that would be left is an unrecognizable dried up pile of broken bones.1 -
I was a hard core pop drinker most of my life. I carried cases of cans in my car. Every picture of me for years has a Pepsi or Sunkist can in it. It took about 3 months before I stopped wanting to snatch the fountain drink from the person the next table over in resturants. It has been a couple years since I stopped drinking it daily and I don't crave it anymore. I will have one over once in a while, usually a ginger ale when sick and after about 4 ounces it is too sweet.
Stick with it, it won't always be like this. it really is like a drug for some people.0 -
I have coke only occasionally for a treat and build in it my calories. Once a week would be good; then you don't have to deny yourself- you know you will have one eventually. I also make a coke or other carbonated beverages last longer by adding carbonated soda water-- Bang -- regular coke is now an extra big
Everyone is different; as noted above- some people just can't have one. I can't stand diet sodas either- yuk. 0 -
I appreciate all the feedback. To touch on a couple points mentioned. I can't stand the taste of artificial sweeteners, I'll skip completely before drinking diet. Second. The difference between apple juice and soda is I will drink 8 oz of apple juice and be ok. Beats the big gulp coke I would have gotten. And if I take one, I'll take one more, then one more, then 15 more....
The good news is, the craving has passed, I drank my gallon+ of water today and I'm doing pretty good
I'm with you, I can't/couldn't stand diet coke either. I quit soda cold turkey in 2010 or so, and was pretty irritable (and hungry!) for a few weeks after that, then it passed. These days I drink 1 can per week or so, either when I'm at the cinema or when I'm eating something that calls for it. I'm pretty happy that I don't drink 3-4 cans a day anymore.0 -
To the last 3 people who posted (and others throughout) thank you for your encouragement. Also thank you for not getting involved in the petty coke/Diet Coke silliness that clearly has nothing to do with my post and should have been fought under nutrition not motivation. I have since come up with a solution that serves me quite well
Take a lemon, squeeze it into a pitcher, toss in the lemon, add ice & water then enjoy. Problem solved 2 -
Suggesting that you switch to "diet" coke is like a meth head suggesting you switch to "diet meth". Soda is one of the most destructive addictive junk food products out there, and should be treated the same as quitting cigarettes. You just need to put more time in from when you quit. Tea, coffee, and water; everything else is packed with excessive refined sugars. With enough time away from it, you won't even crave it anymore.
This is just wrong. I switched from regular coke to diet coke when I started losing weight, back in 2012. I then proceeded to lose over 50lbs, improve all my health markers (including getting a high glucose down into the 80s, which is in the normal range), and on top of all of that, I've been maintaining the loss and good health for 3 years now. I drink 3-4 cans of diet soda every single day. I'm in excellent health and I have a current bmi of 20.7.0 -
glenneric913 wrote: »All soda is bad. High Fructose Corn Syrup causes rapid weight gain and impacts your cognitive ability - just google it and read some of the studies it's pretty scary. Diet soda is deceiving since it has no calories but since your body can't metabolize it, you end up storing more fat. Recent studies show that diet sodas and artificial "zero calorie" sweeteners actually cause you to GAIN MORE WEIGHT! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx
The misinformation in this thread is ridiculous. Diet soda does NOT cause fat storage. It's ZERO calories. You cannot gain weight from something that has no calories. Are you even reading what you typed?
I drink diet soda every single day. Not only have I lost over 50lbs and have been maintaining the loss for 3 years now, but ALL of my health markers have improved. I'm no longer labeled a pre-diabetic. My cholesterol numbers are great (I have my last results posted in my profile-feel free to check them out and tell me where I'm horribly unhealthy, snort). I have good blood pressure. I'm not on any medications. I don't have any health issues. I sleep well, and the list goes on. I've also talked to my MD doctor about diet soda and she has no problems with me drinking it. She has my chart and sees where I'm at. I drink diet soda because I enjoy the taste of it. It has had absolutely no negative impact on my weight loss, weight maintenance, or health.
eta: I also eat foods with high fructose corn syrup. Again, no issues with my weight and my cognitive ability is just fine, sheesh.0 -
do a search for cleaning coins with coke....
when you see what it can do to a rusty coin, think what it is doing to your insides....0 -
do a search for cleaning coins with coke....
when you see what it can do to a rusty coin, think what it is doing to your insides....
Do you have any idea what our stomach acids can do? Stomach acid has a PH level that puts it in the same category as battery acid.
"acidic drinks are not dangerous because the stomach already has an acidic environment. The stomach has specialized cells that produce hydrochloric acid, which has a pH of 2.0. This acid is stronger than the phosphoric acid or carbonic acid found in cola products."
http://www.ask.com/science/ph-level-coke-3faa419307c54460
I've been drinking soda in one form or another since I was a kid (so over 30 years). I have no stomach or health issues at all.
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I cant stand diet coke but love coke zero. Very different taste. Zero tastes more like regular coke. Zero vanilla or cherry are my "snacks" at night if i'm out of calories and want something sweet.0
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I gave up coke not due to the sweeteners/sugar but because of the caffeine as I suffered terrible migraines. I have also given up tea and coffee. It was hard at first due to withdrawal systems but haven't had a drink of it for about 3 years. Even after all that time I sometimes crave a coke but resist and have water instead.0
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why give it up? Just curious.
1 cup of apple juice has 113 calories 1 cup of coke...96 calories.
Tea has caffeine...for 12oz it has 37.4 mg 12oz of coke...34
apple juice has 24 grams of sugar per cup...coke 1 cup has 12 grams
hmmm...
If he was only having one can of Soda ..... Like you said it is telling yourself no and you are an adult and you are applying adulting to your choices ...... Everyone manages their vices in a different way .I appreciate all the feedback. To touch on a couple points mentioned. I can't stand the taste of artificial sweeteners, I'll skip completely before drinking diet. Second. The difference between apple juice and soda is I will drink 8 oz of apple juice and be ok. Beats the big gulp coke I would have gotten. And if I take one, I'll take one more, then one more, then 15 more....
The good news is, the craving has passed, I drank my gallon+ of water today and I'm doing pretty good
He is not there yet ..... he is making progress though ! Good for him0 -
I have been off soda for years. Drinking soda is one of the worst things you can do for yourself. There is no nutritional value which unfortunately can be said for a lot of our favorites. If you want to make sure you stay off soda, simply google "hazards of soda" and you may never drink the stuff again! If you were trapped on a desert island a six pack may keep you alive for a few extra days and it does a great job of cleaning toilets but other than that, there are no benefits. You shouldn't drink or eat anything that can strip the paint off of your car if it gets spilled.Pour a can on your car see what happens... just kidding don't do that it strips the paint off, you can google examples you don't need to see that first hand. Drink a lot of water and wait out the cravings. You will be glad you did.0
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ReaderGirl3 wrote: »This is just wrong. I switched from regular coke to diet coke when I started losing weight, back in 2012. I then proceeded to lose over 50lbs, improve all my health markers (including getting a high glucose down into the 80s, which is in the normal range), and on top of all of that, I've been maintaining the loss and good health for 3 years now. I drink 3-4 cans of diet soda every single day. I'm in excellent health and I have a current bmi of 20.7.
You lost weight in spite of drinking soda, not because of it. Implying that soda is a dietary aid reinforces to the misinformed that you should drink it, when actually no one needs it, it lacks any nutrients. Regardless of any claims of it's harmfulness, it is 100% clear and accurate that it is an unnecessary beverage, no one needs it in their intake. Singing praises of results while still drinking soda to someone who otherwise isn't addicted is completely insane. If you want to be healthy with your body processes, you shouldn't drink soda. If you simply cannot bear living without it, that speaks more to a crippling addiction that you should seek treatment for. If your standards for health are lower, then it doesn't really matter what you choose to do then does it?
So the only reason to eat or drink something is that it is "necessary"? One shouldn't eat or drink something for enjoyment or for comfort?
That is a ridiculous premise. Very few things are necessary. You don't need bread, or coffee, or meat, or apples, or central heat, or television, or a bed, or an education.
I'm not an ascetic - I choose to consume things for pleasure sometimes. "What is not compulsory is forbidden" is a rule for slaves, not free men and women.
There's just no point. This poster demonizes all sorts of foods, including claiming that bananas make your bum fat
And they've also admitted to being a lifelong binge eater/having an ED. Sooo moving right along here!
OP sorry things got a bit off topic, hope you've found a solution that works for you!1 -
I have been off soda for years. Drinking soda is one of the worst things you can do for yourself. There is no nutritional value which unfortunately can be said for a lot of our favorites. If you want to make sure you stay off soda, simply google "hazards of soda" and you may never drink the stuff again! If you were trapped on a desert island a six pack may keep you alive for a few extra days and it does a great job of cleaning toilets but other than that, there are no benefits. You shouldn't drink or eat anything that can strip the paint off of your car if it gets spilled.Pour a can on your car see what happens... just kidding don't do that it strips the paint off, you can google examples you don't need to see that first hand. Drink a lot of water and wait out the cravings. You will be glad you did.
Oh gah, not another one?!
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ReaderGirl3 wrote: »ReaderGirl3 wrote: »This is just wrong. I switched from regular coke to diet coke when I started losing weight, back in 2012. I then proceeded to lose over 50lbs, improve all my health markers (including getting a high glucose down into the 80s, which is in the normal range), and on top of all of that, I've been maintaining the loss and good health for 3 years now. I drink 3-4 cans of diet soda every single day. I'm in excellent health and I have a current bmi of 20.7.
You lost weight in spite of drinking soda, not because of it. Implying that soda is a dietary aid reinforces to the misinformed that you should drink it, when actually no one needs it, it lacks any nutrients. Regardless of any claims of it's harmfulness, it is 100% clear and accurate that it is an unnecessary beverage, no one needs it in their intake. Singing praises of results while still drinking soda to someone who otherwise isn't addicted is completely insane. If you want to be healthy with your body processes, you shouldn't drink soda. If you simply cannot bear living without it, that speaks more to a crippling addiction that you should seek treatment for. If your standards for health are lower, then it doesn't really matter what you choose to do then does it?
So the only reason to eat or drink something is that it is "necessary"? One shouldn't eat or drink something for enjoyment or for comfort?
That is a ridiculous premise. Very few things are necessary. You don't need bread, or coffee, or meat, or apples, or central heat, or television, or a bed, or an education.
I'm not an ascetic - I choose to consume things for pleasure sometimes. "What is not compulsory is forbidden" is a rule for slaves, not free men and women.
There's just no point. This poster demonizes all sorts of foods, including claiming that bananas make your bum fat And they've also admitted to being a lifelong binge eater/having an ED. Sooo moving right along here!
OP sorry things got a bit off topic, hope you've found a solution that works for you!
I know where you're coming from. I posted this with lurkers in mind. No doubt it'll sink into obscurity. 0 -
ReaderGirl3 wrote: »I have been off soda for years. Drinking soda is one of the worst things you can do for yourself. There is no nutritional value which unfortunately can be said for a lot of our favorites. If you want to make sure you stay off soda, simply google "hazards of soda" and you may never drink the stuff again! If you were trapped on a desert island a six pack may keep you alive for a few extra days and it does a great job of cleaning toilets but other than that, there are no benefits. You shouldn't drink or eat anything that can strip the paint off of your car if it gets spilled.Pour a can on your car see what happens... just kidding don't do that it strips the paint off, you can google examples you don't need to see that first hand. Drink a lot of water and wait out the cravings. You will be glad you did.
Oh gah, not another one?!
I give up
But if it's on the internet is must be true...........
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Just curious what you crave about the Coke? Is it the taste? The sweetness? Maybe the carbonation? If it's the carbonation, that is what I always craved. If I feel like a soda, I have carbonated water with bit of lime in it. I absolutely love it! Don't miss regular pop at all.0
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