p90x puts man in hospital

operation_cute

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-says-one-day-p90x-sent-him-emergency-170839781.html

Wanted to share because I know P90X is very popular around here... I know I'm going to get hit with a lot of negativity towards the post, but posting anyways so people know the risks. Basic moral of the story is listen to your body and don't over do it

phjorg1

this has nothing to do with p90x. this has everything to do with a noob to resistance training going too hard. this same result could happen with any resistance training template. And in fact has. When I was doing my PT courses there were more than a few examples of trainers pushing new clients too hard and causing exactly this.

tammymusic1

wow crazy did not know that could even happen

operation_cute

wow crazy did not know that could even happen

That's why I posted it I think a lot of people are very focused on pushing themselves, but they dont' realize that it can be taken too far... I know a lot of the more "seasoned' fitness people on here know the risks, but a lot of us not so experienced ones don't.

phjorg1

wow crazy did not know that could even happen

That's why I posted it I think a lot of people are very focused on pushing themselves, but they dont' realize that it can be taken too far... I know a lot of the more "seasoned' fitness people on here know the risks, but a lot of us not so experienced ones don't.

I should point out that the 'risk' diminishes exponentially every time you exercise. This virtually only ever happens to someone the first time they work out after a years long layoff.

operation_cute

wow crazy did not know that could even happen

That's why I posted it I think a lot of people are very focused on pushing themselves, but they dont' realize that it can be taken too far... I know a lot of the more "seasoned' fitness people on here know the risks, but a lot of us not so experienced ones don't.

I should point out that the 'risk' diminishes exponentially every time you exercise. This virtually only ever happens to someone the first time they work out after a years long layoff.

a lot of people on here are exactly that though, new to fitness, and if they happen to hear word of p90x (which is very possible given its popularity) they could just as easily be in his shoes, isn't it better to warn the risks of jumping into an extreme program if your not ready rather than just assume everyone knows not to do it?

NavyKnightAh13

That is nuts, though believable.

JerseyGirl081

"He has always been athlete"? but obviously doesn't know the first thing about fitness. You are supposed to go slow!! Modify!! Learn proper forms! Even if you WERE an "athlete". It's so funny how people who have "athletic backgrounds" think they can do any physical activity no matter how tough it is with no problem. Even a veteran runner cant go into olympic sprinting in the span of 2 days. And to blame P90X for his medical issue is so wrong cuz I'm pretty sure if it wasn't P90X he would probably have chosen another one of those intense programs on that site or elsewhere, or chosen to do some other tough exercise, push himself beyond his capability and have the same result. He needed to slow down and make sure he was doing things properly and make sure he wasn't pushing past what his body could. I'm thinking his ego got in the way. lol My BF tried doing P90X with me one day and he, trying to be all big and bad, tried to do a Gap Jump (from the Plyometrics workout-Day 2" and pushed passed where his legs wanted to go and injured a few muscles in his groin and broke his leg when he landed. Talk about Ouch!! He learned his lesson! lol My poor baby! lol He's learned to leave his ego in the bedroom lol before he workouts.

But you are so right. You have to listen to your body and modify modify modify when you need to. Eventually your body will get strong enough where you can begin to challenge yourself.

Your body is talking. LISTEN!!!

latinstarlite1

I don't see what the big stink is?? The Lambardi himself says at the end of the article what he learned, which is Don't push to hard and listen to your body.... in so many words.

I don't think this article was written to give P90X a bad name at all. I think it was titled in such a way to get people to read it so that they, themselves know the risks and are aware that pushing to hard can literally kill them. People who use P90X and like it should not take offense to this article, he's not blaming P90X, he blames himself, but after explaining the risk.

TheStephil

this has nothing to do with p90x. this has everything to do with a noob to resistance training going too hard. this same result could happen with any resistance training template. And in fact has. When I was doing my PT courses there were more than a few examples of trainers pushing new clients too hard and causing exactly this.

Exactly.
My uncle is doing P90X and told me about this article. You can't expect to do the entire workout your first try if you don't workout frequently. If it was that easy, it wouldn't give the results you are looking for.

AJinBirmingham

My physical therapist loves PX90 - it's great for her business.

ninerbuff

He should have drank some Shakeology before the workout. Sounds legit.

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TheEffort

He was trying to bounce back into shape too quickly...had not heard of this before now. He's lucky to be alive from the story. Thanks for sharing.

mockchoc

I really would wish more people on here would tell the new people that are very overweight or even the ones not quite as overweight but unhealthy and not worked out for years that they don't have to do all these types of exercise and they should just walk or swim etc for a while till they lose a little weight then change up to more difficult things when they feel ready. I rarely see anyone do that and I hope that changes. Yes I do see the people that lift weights on here suggesting they do that and that is great for sure. I'm talking to do with cardio though.

Fat or just unfit people wanting to do too much too soon is a recipe for disaster because it can put them off getting fit, then they give up because they lose hope thinking they aren't good enough. WRONG they are but they need to take steps to get to where they want to be.

Doodlewhopper

While on the subject - Be aware of the risks of taking NSAIDS.


1. NSAIDs slow tissue healing.
2. NSAIDs can damage your kidneys

http://myrunningdoc.blogspot.com/2010/05/nsaids-why-runners-should-think-twice.html

And

Running, Rhabdomyolosis, and Renal Failure
http://www.ultrarunning.com/ultra/9/9_1/running-rhabdomyolosis-an.shtml

Doodlewhopper

I really would wish more people on here would tell the new people that are very overweight or even the ones not quite as overweight but unhealthy and not worked out for years that they don't have to do all these types of exercise and they should just walk or swim etc for a while till they lose a little weight then change up to more difficult things when they feel ready. I rarely see anyone do that and I hope that changes. Yes I do see the people that lift weights on here suggesting they do that and that is great for sure. I'm talking to do with cardio though.

Fat or just unfit people wanting to do too much too soon is a recipe for disaster because it can put them off getting fit, then they give up because they lose hope thinking they aren't good enough. WRONG they are but they need to take steps to get to where they want to be.

So right you are gal. We should caution noobs to temper their enthusiasm a little.

operation_cute

While on the subject - Be aware of the risks of taking NSAIDS.


1. NSAIDs slow tissue healing.
2. NSAIDs can damage your kidneys

http://myrunningdoc.blogspot.com/2010/05/nsaids-why-runners-should-think-twice.html

And

Running, Rhabdomyolosis, and Renal Failure
http://www.ultrarunning.com/ultra/9/9_1/running-rhabdomyolosis-an.shtml

I use ibprofien for head aches and excedrine for my bad migraines

Hexahedra

If you're motivated enough, it's entirely possible to do any physical exercise until you literally collapse. While it's nice to know that you have the will to push your body that far, it's not a smart thing to do unless your life depends on it. But I totally understand, as I let my pride get the best of me a couple of times, both times I ended up with minor injuries.

scottaworley

Everything that he says that he did in that article P90X tells you not to do.

waskier

Sounds like that Viagra disclosure to me. "Warning, if you have blood in your urine after 4 hours of our routine, you are too weak to participate and may die." Makes people want to prove they're tough enough.

mockchoc

I really would wish more people on here would tell the new people that are very overweight or even the ones not quite as overweight but unhealthy and not worked out for years that they don't have to do all these types of exercise and they should just walk or swim etc for a while till they lose a little weight then change up to more difficult things when they feel ready. I rarely see anyone do that and I hope that changes. Yes I do see the people that lift weights on here suggesting they do that and that is great for sure. I'm talking to do with cardio though.

Fat or just unfit people wanting to do too much too soon is a recipe for disaster because it can put them off getting fit, then they give up because they lose hope thinking they aren't good enough. WRONG they are but they need to take steps to get to where they want to be.

So right you are gal. We should caution noobs to temper their enthusiasm a little.

People should see a doctor before starting new exercise regime especially when really unfit...that's what I always heard was a safe idea.Take it easy at first. Just my thoughts.

zenchild

Idiot. He says he's "always been an athlete" but that he also gained 20 pounds. If he's gained 20 pounds through inactivity and a bad diet (common while developing a new product), then he's not still an athlete. It's like the guys who played football in high school and refuse to believe that they're out of shape when they're 30 and end up hurting themselves. Just because you could do it once, doesn't mean you can do it now. Listen to the warnings (on the website, during the DVDS, on the packaging, etc) and do what you can do and modify as needed.

cats847

Idiot. He says he's "always been an athlete" but that he also gained 20 pounds. If he's gained 20 pounds through inactivity and a bad diet (common while developing a new product), then he's not still an athlete. It's like the guys who played football in high school and refuse to believe that they're out of shape when they're 30 and end up hurting themselves. Just because you could do it once, doesn't mean you can do it now. Listen to the warnings (on the website, during the DVDS, on the packaging, etc) and do what you can do and modify as needed.

I don't think it's fair to call this man an "idiot"...

Anyone who has ever worked out knows the feeling of "I really wanna quit right now, this is too hard" but pushes themselves anyway to finish the workout. There are plenty of people out there who can't last through 10 minutes of moderate activity without quitting. Is it because they are physically unable to or because they are not used to dealing with the discomfort of exercise?

It can be hard to judge when one should push through pain and uncomfortable feelings and when one should stop altogether -- there is no objective gauge of this. So maybe he had more motivation than most people doing P90x, more pain tolerance, or both. Plus, TV shows like "The Biggest Loser" depict extremely obese people doing strenuous exercises. Maybe he thought, "hey if they can do it, so can I" and refused to stop.

To my best understanding, P90x is not marketed to elite athletes looking to improve performance at their chosen sport. It is marketed at everyday Joes and Janes looking to lose some extra pounds, precisely those people who might have been athletic back in the day but have gained a few pounds through the years -- just like the man in the article.

gogojodee

I thought he broke something...or something else. This month or whatever is on stands for SHAPE mag or Women's Health, there's a lengthy article about rhabdo and sports plans/runs that are high in intensity. It was a good read!

LexiAtel

Need to listen to your body more... if you hurt like hell... take it easy... you shouldn't push yourself that hard especially during the beginning of a new routine. Ease yourself into it...

tinylightsbelow

Wow! No idea you can overwork yourself this much. I don't feel so bad about easing into exercising now.

It does seem like all of the labels for the product imply that this is intended for someone who is already fit and active though; I would never try it if I was not already a gym rat. It does seem like this guy was not in his peak shape and so he way overworked himself. Poor guy.

red_road

that is why every exercise program tells you to consult your doctor before starting. this isn't the biggest loser.

gogojodee

While on the subject - Be aware of the risks of taking NSAIDS.


1. NSAIDs slow tissue healing.
2. NSAIDs can damage your kidneys

http://myrunningdoc.blogspot.com/2010/05/nsaids-why-runners-should-think-twice.html

And

Running, Rhabdomyolosis, and Renal Failure
http://www.ultrarunning.com/ultra/9/9_1/running-rhabdomyolosis-an.shtml

Thanks for citing, will have to read later!

scottaworley

Idiot. He says he's "always been an athlete" but that he also gained 20 pounds. If he's gained 20 pounds through inactivity and a bad diet (common while developing a new product), then he's not still an athlete. It's like the guys who played football in high school and refuse to believe that they're out of shape when they're 30 and end up hurting themselves. Just because you could do it once, doesn't mean you can do it now. Listen to the warnings (on the website, during the DVDS, on the packaging, etc) and do what you can do and modify as needed.

I don't think it's fair to call this man an "idiot"...

Anyone who has ever worked out knows the feeling of "I really wanna quit right now, this is too hard" but pushes themselves anyway to finish the workout. There are plenty of people out there who can't last through 10 minutes of moderate activity without quitting. Is it because they are physically unable to or because they are not used to dealing with the discomfort of exercise?

It can be hard to judge when one should push through pain and uncomfortable feelings and when one should stop altogether -- there is no objective gauge of this. So maybe he had more motivation than most people doing P90x, more pain tolerance, or both. Plus, TV shows like "The Biggest Loser" depict extremely obese people doing strenuous exercises. Maybe he thought, "hey if they can do it, so can I" and refused to stop.

To my best understanding, P90x is not marketed to elite athletes looking to improve performance at their chosen sport. It is marketed at everyday Joes and Janes looking to lose some extra pounds, precisely those people who might have been athletic back in the day but have gained a few pounds through the years -- just like the man in the article.

There is a fitness test at the beginning and end of the program. If you can not pass the fitness test at the start of P90X it tells you to not start. I am guessing this guy never even bothered to take the fitness test.
EDIT
P90X is for people who are already fit and want to be more fit. Anyone trying P90X that is not fit should always modify the program if they try it at all. This is all over the program materials.

ironanimal

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GymAnJuice

why is his girlfriend thumping the air? lol