Added sugar vs. natural sugars in daily total?

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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Someone said the body needs sugar, and stated it as a fact - that's wrong, and potentially dangerous.
    What are the causes of obesity diseases? A high resistance to insulin. You continue to abuse sugar and you will succumb to diabetes and other metabolic issues. I have a mate, he's a relatively slim lad. At 22 he was diagnosed with diabetes. He was eating a 'healthy diet'.
    I don't track sugar, but I don't eat much in the way of fruit and I definitely don't eat low fat products.
    By the way, there are plenty of publications on sugar in the diet and what it does.
    Have a search for Aseem Malhotra.

    I said the body needs sugar and I am not wrong. The major cause of obesity is too many calories, wether they come from sugar (carbs), fat or protein. High resistance to insulin typically happens after one is overweight. You are ignoring the lifestyle and genetic factors and blaming it all on sugar? How ignorant are you? And why on earth would you suggest that I abuse sugar! What was your mates other factors for diabetes at 22? I highly doubt it was because of sugar. Please...

    In the first instance, you are. Your body does not need sugar. You can live quite happily without any carbs at all, or sugar. There was a guy, he weighed a tremendous amount, about 320lb. Under control he was starved for 13 months, given water and nothing else. He used his fat reserve to survive and lost about half his weight.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    High resistance to insulin occurs when one systematically forces insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system. Carbs and sugar cause a larger insulin spike than protein and will lead to insulin resistance. A simple test is, skinny limbs and a spare tyre around the middle? Insulin resistant, but one might not be obese.
    You don't have to be overweight to be diabetic or suffer with metabolic syndromes.

    Sorry, change the 'you' to 'one' I wasn't trying to be personal.

    Re my mate. All I know is he was a young man of 22, played football (soccer), drank beer, ate like a man of his age does, he started to feel a bit off and was later diagnosed with diabetes. He's not over weight and never has been.

    The body does need sugar. So much so that your liver will basically drop everything else to create glucose if you're not eating enough carbs.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    I... I just can't even.
    Let's get to the next point.

    The part about insulin resistance is wrong.

    And your mate is the perfect example for why. He got diabetes even though he didn't "force insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system".

    Essentially you're agreeing with what I said. You don't need sugar, your liver will make up the short fall. So nobody needs to eat sugar, or carbs. They are not an essential macro.
    I suggest you google Prof Tim Noakes.

    As for the fat - "it does not trigger the hormonal dance that creates fat storage the way that sugar and other starchy carbohydrates do."
    Is what I meant. I was being lazy.
    It's a far better fuel, cleaner and more efficient.

    As for my pal, well he did, didn't he? For some reason his body overly produced insulin to deal with the sugar he was eating. He became insulin resistant before he became diabetic. Carried on as the rest of us and became diabetic.


    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.

    They're not an essential macro because your body is so dependent on it to live. With what little stores for carbs we have, you'd be dead in a couple of days if you couldn't create it yourself.

    Fat doesn't start any funny hormonal cycles because, and that might come as a shock, it's already fat and doesn't need to be converted to fat first. As for carbs, read this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10365981
    Turning carbs into fat is inefficient and your body just rather burns them all up before resorting to turning them to fat.
    That's right, everything you heard about "insulin causes fat storage!" and "carbs make you fat!" was complete humbug.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Someone said the body needs sugar, and stated it as a fact - that's wrong, and potentially dangerous.
    What are the causes of obesity diseases? A high resistance to insulin. You continue to abuse sugar and you will succumb to diabetes and other metabolic issues. I have a mate, he's a relatively slim lad. At 22 he was diagnosed with diabetes. He was eating a 'healthy diet'.
    I don't track sugar, but I don't eat much in the way of fruit and I definitely don't eat low fat products.
    By the way, there are plenty of publications on sugar in the diet and what it does.
    Have a search for Aseem Malhotra.

    I said the body needs sugar and I am not wrong. The major cause of obesity is too many calories, wether they come from sugar (carbs), fat or protein. High resistance to insulin typically happens after one is overweight. You are ignoring the lifestyle and genetic factors and blaming it all on sugar? How ignorant are you? And why on earth would you suggest that I abuse sugar! What was your mates other factors for diabetes at 22? I highly doubt it was because of sugar. Please...

    In the first instance, you are. Your body does not need sugar. You can live quite happily without any carbs at all, or sugar. There was a guy, he weighed a tremendous amount, about 320lb. Under control he was starved for 13 months, given water and nothing else. He used his fat reserve to survive and lost about half his weight.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    High resistance to insulin occurs when one systematically forces insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system. Carbs and sugar cause a larger insulin spike than protein and will lead to insulin resistance. A simple test is, skinny limbs and a spare tyre around the middle? Insulin resistant, but one might not be obese.
    You don't have to be overweight to be diabetic or suffer with metabolic syndromes.

    Sorry, change the 'you' to 'one' I wasn't trying to be personal.

    Re my mate. All I know is he was a young man of 22, played football (soccer), drank beer, ate like a man of his age does, he started to feel a bit off and was later diagnosed with diabetes. He's not over weight and never has been.

    The body does need sugar. So much so that your liver will basically drop everything else to create glucose if you're not eating enough carbs.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    I... I just can't even.
    Let's get to the next point.

    The part about insulin resistance is wrong.

    And your mate is the perfect example for why. He got diabetes even though he didn't "force insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system".

    Essentially you're agreeing with what I said. You don't need sugar, your liver will make up the short fall. So nobody needs to eat sugar, or carbs. They are not an essential macro.
    I suggest you google Prof Tim Noakes.

    As for the fat - "it does not trigger the hormonal dance that creates fat storage the way that sugar and other starchy carbohydrates do."
    Is what I meant. I was being lazy.
    It's a far better fuel, cleaner and more efficient.

    As for my pal, well he did, didn't he? For some reason his body overly produced insulin to deal with the sugar he was eating. He became insulin resistant before he became diabetic. Carried on as the rest of us and became diabetic.


    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.

    They're not an essential macro because your body is so dependent on it to live. With what little stores for carbs we have, you'd be dead in a couple of days if you couldn't create it yourself.

    Fat doesn't start any funny hormonal cycles because, and that might come as a shock, it's already fat and doesn't need to be converted to fat first. As for carbs, read this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10365981
    Turning carbs into fat is inefficient and your body just rather burns them all up before resorting to turning them to fat.
    That's right, everything you heard about "insulin causes fat storage!" and "carbs make you fat!" was complete humbug.

    Sadly you can't fight faith with facts...
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Someone said the body needs sugar, and stated it as a fact - that's wrong, and potentially dangerous.
    What are the causes of obesity diseases? A high resistance to insulin. You continue to abuse sugar and you will succumb to diabetes and other metabolic issues. I have a mate, he's a relatively slim lad. At 22 he was diagnosed with diabetes. He was eating a 'healthy diet'.
    I don't track sugar, but I don't eat much in the way of fruit and I definitely don't eat low fat products.
    By the way, there are plenty of publications on sugar in the diet and what it does.
    Have a search for Aseem Malhotra.

    I said the body needs sugar and I am not wrong. The major cause of obesity is too many calories, wether they come from sugar (carbs), fat or protein. High resistance to insulin typically happens after one is overweight. You are ignoring the lifestyle and genetic factors and blaming it all on sugar? How ignorant are you? And why on earth would you suggest that I abuse sugar! What was your mates other factors for diabetes at 22? I highly doubt it was because of sugar. Please...

    In the first instance, you are. Your body does not need sugar. You can live quite happily without any carbs at all, or sugar. There was a guy, he weighed a tremendous amount, about 320lb. Under control he was starved for 13 months, given water and nothing else. He used his fat reserve to survive and lost about half his weight.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    High resistance to insulin occurs when one systematically forces insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system. Carbs and sugar cause a larger insulin spike than protein and will lead to insulin resistance. A simple test is, skinny limbs and a spare tyre around the middle? Insulin resistant, but one might not be obese.
    You don't have to be overweight to be diabetic or suffer with metabolic syndromes.

    Sorry, change the 'you' to 'one' I wasn't trying to be personal.

    Re my mate. All I know is he was a young man of 22, played football (soccer), drank beer, ate like a man of his age does, he started to feel a bit off and was later diagnosed with diabetes. He's not over weight and never has been.

    The body does need sugar. So much so that your liver will basically drop everything else to create glucose if you're not eating enough carbs.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    I... I just can't even.
    Let's get to the next point.

    The part about insulin resistance is wrong.

    And your mate is the perfect example for why. He got diabetes even though he didn't "force insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system".

    Essentially you're agreeing with what I said. You don't need sugar, your liver will make up the short fall. So nobody needs to eat sugar, or carbs. They are not an essential macro.
    I suggest you google Prof Tim Noakes.

    As for the fat - "it does not trigger the hormonal dance that creates fat storage the way that sugar and other starchy carbohydrates do."
    Is what I meant. I was being lazy.
    It's a far better fuel, cleaner and more efficient.

    As for my pal, well he did, didn't he? For some reason his body overly produced insulin to deal with the sugar he was eating. He became insulin resistant before he became diabetic. Carried on as the rest of us and became diabetic.


    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.

    As I already stated, dietary fat releases ASP and suppresses hormone sensitive lipase. This means, it suppresses fat burning.

    Fat as a cleaner source is only propaganda promoted by LCHF enthusiast. . If it was, then professional/olympic athletes would be keto or low carb.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Someone said the body needs sugar, and stated it as a fact - that's wrong, and potentially dangerous.
    What are the causes of obesity diseases? A high resistance to insulin. You continue to abuse sugar and you will succumb to diabetes and other metabolic issues. I have a mate, he's a relatively slim lad. At 22 he was diagnosed with diabetes. He was eating a 'healthy diet'.
    I don't track sugar, but I don't eat much in the way of fruit and I definitely don't eat low fat products.
    By the way, there are plenty of publications on sugar in the diet and what it does.
    Have a search for Aseem Malhotra.

    I said the body needs sugar and I am not wrong. The major cause of obesity is too many calories, wether they come from sugar (carbs), fat or protein. High resistance to insulin typically happens after one is overweight. You are ignoring the lifestyle and genetic factors and blaming it all on sugar? How ignorant are you? And why on earth would you suggest that I abuse sugar! What was your mates other factors for diabetes at 22? I highly doubt it was because of sugar. Please...

    In the first instance, you are. Your body does not need sugar. You can live quite happily without any carbs at all, or sugar. There was a guy, he weighed a tremendous amount, about 320lb. Under control he was starved for 13 months, given water and nothing else. He used his fat reserve to survive and lost about half his weight.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    High resistance to insulin occurs when one systematically forces insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system. Carbs and sugar cause a larger insulin spike than protein and will lead to insulin resistance. A simple test is, skinny limbs and a spare tyre around the middle? Insulin resistant, but one might not be obese.
    You don't have to be overweight to be diabetic or suffer with metabolic syndromes.

    Sorry, change the 'you' to 'one' I wasn't trying to be personal.

    Re my mate. All I know is he was a young man of 22, played football (soccer), drank beer, ate like a man of his age does, he started to feel a bit off and was later diagnosed with diabetes. He's not over weight and never has been.

    The body does need sugar. So much so that your liver will basically drop everything else to create glucose if you're not eating enough carbs.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    I... I just can't even.
    Let's get to the next point.

    The part about insulin resistance is wrong.

    And your mate is the perfect example for why. He got diabetes even though he didn't "force insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system".

    Essentially you're agreeing with what I said. You don't need sugar, your liver will make up the short fall. So nobody needs to eat sugar, or carbs. They are not an essential macro.
    I suggest you google Prof Tim Noakes.

    As for the fat - "it does not trigger the hormonal dance that creates fat storage the way that sugar and other starchy carbohydrates do."
    Is what I meant. I was being lazy.
    It's a far better fuel, cleaner and more efficient.

    As for my pal, well he did, didn't he? For some reason his body overly produced insulin to deal with the sugar he was eating. He became insulin resistant before he became diabetic. Carried on as the rest of us and became diabetic.


    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.

    As I already stated, dietary fat releases ASP and suppresses hormone sensitive lipase. This means, it suppresses fat burning.

    Fat as a cleaner source is only propaganda promoted by LCHF enthusiast. . If it was, then professional/olympic athletes would be keto or low carb.

    A cleaner source of fuel. Honestly, what does that even mean? Lol, that will be the next debate. The clean fuel burners will be the new clean eaters...
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    Essentially you're agreeing with what I said. You don't need sugar, your liver will make up the short fall. So nobody needs to eat sugar, or carbs. They are not an essential macro.
    I suggest you google Prof Tim Noakes.
    So you are taking what can be argued as a survival mechanism (gluconeogenesis), as proof that one should eliminate carbs from their diet? Awesome...
    As for the fat - "it does not trigger the hormonal dance that creates fat storage the way that sugar and other starchy carbohydrates do."
    Is what I meant. I was being lazy.
    It's a far better fuel, cleaner and more efficient.
    Ok, so what exactly do you think happens to the fat then? Where does it go? Are you suggesting that one can eat fat, be in an energy surplus and still lose weight/fat? How exactly did you determine that fat is a "cleaner" and more "efficient" fuel source? What exactly does that even mean?
    As for my pal, well he did, didn't he? For some reason his body overly produced insulin to deal with the sugar he was eating. He became insulin resistant before he became diabetic. Carried on as the rest of us and became diabetic.
    Probably genetics and lifestyle...
    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.
    You cut calories...
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    J72FIT wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Someone said the body needs sugar, and stated it as a fact - that's wrong, and potentially dangerous.
    What are the causes of obesity diseases? A high resistance to insulin. You continue to abuse sugar and you will succumb to diabetes and other metabolic issues. I have a mate, he's a relatively slim lad. At 22 he was diagnosed with diabetes. He was eating a 'healthy diet'.
    I don't track sugar, but I don't eat much in the way of fruit and I definitely don't eat low fat products.
    By the way, there are plenty of publications on sugar in the diet and what it does.
    Have a search for Aseem Malhotra.

    I said the body needs sugar and I am not wrong. The major cause of obesity is too many calories, wether they come from sugar (carbs), fat or protein. High resistance to insulin typically happens after one is overweight. You are ignoring the lifestyle and genetic factors and blaming it all on sugar? How ignorant are you? And why on earth would you suggest that I abuse sugar! What was your mates other factors for diabetes at 22? I highly doubt it was because of sugar. Please...

    In the first instance, you are. Your body does not need sugar. You can live quite happily without any carbs at all, or sugar. There was a guy, he weighed a tremendous amount, about 320lb. Under control he was starved for 13 months, given water and nothing else. He used his fat reserve to survive and lost about half his weight.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    High resistance to insulin occurs when one systematically forces insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system. Carbs and sugar cause a larger insulin spike than protein and will lead to insulin resistance. A simple test is, skinny limbs and a spare tyre around the middle? Insulin resistant, but one might not be obese.
    You don't have to be overweight to be diabetic or suffer with metabolic syndromes.

    Sorry, change the 'you' to 'one' I wasn't trying to be personal.

    Re my mate. All I know is he was a young man of 22, played football (soccer), drank beer, ate like a man of his age does, he started to feel a bit off and was later diagnosed with diabetes. He's not over weight and never has been.

    The body does need sugar. So much so that your liver will basically drop everything else to create glucose if you're not eating enough carbs.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    I... I just can't even.
    Let's get to the next point.

    The part about insulin resistance is wrong.

    And your mate is the perfect example for why. He got diabetes even though he didn't "force insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system".

    Essentially you're agreeing with what I said. You don't need sugar, your liver will make up the short fall. So nobody needs to eat sugar, or carbs. They are not an essential macro.
    I suggest you google Prof Tim Noakes.

    As for the fat - "it does not trigger the hormonal dance that creates fat storage the way that sugar and other starchy carbohydrates do."
    Is what I meant. I was being lazy.
    It's a far better fuel, cleaner and more efficient.

    As for my pal, well he did, didn't he? For some reason his body overly produced insulin to deal with the sugar he was eating. He became insulin resistant before he became diabetic. Carried on as the rest of us and became diabetic.


    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.

    As I already stated, dietary fat releases ASP and suppresses hormone sensitive lipase. This means, it suppresses fat burning.

    Fat as a cleaner source is only propaganda promoted by LCHF enthusiast. . If it was, then professional/olympic athletes would be keto or low carb.

    A cleaner source of fuel. Honestly, what does that even mean? Lol, that will be the next debate. The clean fuel burners will be the new clean eaters...

    The only time I have ever heard of cleaner energy is people following Noakes. Its the equivalent to clean foods. Because it certain doesn't address efficacy.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Someone said the body needs sugar, and stated it as a fact - that's wrong, and potentially dangerous.
    What are the causes of obesity diseases? A high resistance to insulin. You continue to abuse sugar and you will succumb to diabetes and other metabolic issues. I have a mate, he's a relatively slim lad. At 22 he was diagnosed with diabetes. He was eating a 'healthy diet'.
    I don't track sugar, but I don't eat much in the way of fruit and I definitely don't eat low fat products.
    By the way, there are plenty of publications on sugar in the diet and what it does.
    Have a search for Aseem Malhotra.

    I said the body needs sugar and I am not wrong. The major cause of obesity is too many calories, wether they come from sugar (carbs), fat or protein. High resistance to insulin typically happens after one is overweight. You are ignoring the lifestyle and genetic factors and blaming it all on sugar? How ignorant are you? And why on earth would you suggest that I abuse sugar! What was your mates other factors for diabetes at 22? I highly doubt it was because of sugar. Please...

    In the first instance, you are. Your body does not need sugar. You can live quite happily without any carbs at all, or sugar. There was a guy, he weighed a tremendous amount, about 320lb. Under control he was starved for 13 months, given water and nothing else. He used his fat reserve to survive and lost about half his weight.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    High resistance to insulin occurs when one systematically forces insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system. Carbs and sugar cause a larger insulin spike than protein and will lead to insulin resistance. A simple test is, skinny limbs and a spare tyre around the middle? Insulin resistant, but one might not be obese.
    You don't have to be overweight to be diabetic or suffer with metabolic syndromes.

    Sorry, change the 'you' to 'one' I wasn't trying to be personal.

    Re my mate. All I know is he was a young man of 22, played football (soccer), drank beer, ate like a man of his age does, he started to feel a bit off and was later diagnosed with diabetes. He's not over weight and never has been.

    The body does need sugar. So much so that your liver will basically drop everything else to create glucose if you're not eating enough carbs.
    Fat will not make you fat, you have no way of storing it.
    I... I just can't even.
    Let's get to the next point.

    The part about insulin resistance is wrong.

    And your mate is the perfect example for why. He got diabetes even though he didn't "force insulin to mop up the sugar in ones system".

    Essentially you're agreeing with what I said. You don't need sugar, your liver will make up the short fall. So nobody needs to eat sugar, or carbs. They are not an essential macro.
    I suggest you google Prof Tim Noakes.

    As for the fat - "it does not trigger the hormonal dance that creates fat storage the way that sugar and other starchy carbohydrates do."
    Is what I meant. I was being lazy.
    It's a far better fuel, cleaner and more efficient.

    As for my pal, well he did, didn't he? For some reason his body overly produced insulin to deal with the sugar he was eating. He became insulin resistant before he became diabetic. Carried on as the rest of us and became diabetic.


    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.

    As I already stated, dietary fat releases ASP and suppresses hormone sensitive lipase. This means, it suppresses fat burning.

    Fat as a cleaner source is only propaganda promoted by LCHF enthusiast. . If it was, then professional/olympic athletes would be keto or low carb.

    A cleaner source of fuel. Honestly, what does that even mean? Lol, that will be the next debate. The clean fuel burners will be the new clean eaters...

    I thought clean fuels were those that resulted in fewer/less potent toxic emissions?
    If so, fiber, protein and fat are hardly clean fuels.
  • ivanfawcettgibson
    ivanfawcettgibson Posts: 193 Member
    You know what? The info and the science is out there. Go read it. It's not hard to find.
    Google tips
    Prof Tim Noakes
    Butter makes your pants fall off
    Aseem Malhotra
    Dietdoctor
    Keto resource
    Ruled.me
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    You know what? The info and the science is out there. Go read it. It's not hard to find.
    Google tips
    Prof Tim Noakes
    Butter makes your pants fall off
    Aseem Malhotra
    Dietdoctor
    Keto resource
    Ruled.me

    You make a big assumption that none of us have...
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    200 grams of sugar daily. Come at me, brah.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    200 grams of sugar daily. Come at me, brah.

    You go'n die.
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.
    You cut calories...
    Not sure though that cutting calories would have been the direct cause of him thinking better.

  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    You know what? The info and the science is out there. Go read it. It's not hard to find.
    Google tips
    Prof Tim Noakes
    Butter makes your pants fall off
    Aseem Malhotra
    Dietdoctor
    Keto resource
    Ruled.me
    You know what? The info and the science is out there. go read it. It's not hard to find.
    Erich von Däniken
    Giorgio A. Tsoukalos
    Ancient Astronaut Society
    Over 100 episodes of Ancient Aliens
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    I stopped eating carbs and sugar 8 weeks ago, I've dropped the weight from my stomach. I've added weight to my thighs and arms. I'm starting to see my abs again. I used to be a guy of 5'10", 186 lb with skinny legs and arms. Now I'm 5'10" and 171 recovering from knee surgery.
    I sleep better, think better, run better, cycle better and crap better. I blame sugar and refined carbs for my lethargic past. It works for me, it's not for everyone.
    You cut calories...
    Not sure though that cutting calories would have been the direct cause of him thinking better.

    Oh cmon, stop this nonsense...
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