Someone please explain how adjustments work
rainbowbow
Posts: 7,490 Member
I am truly baffled.
I am getting calories added when I am not going to go over MFPs original maintenance estimate. I am getting extra calories when I'm being MORE sedentary than MFPs estimates which they've created my deficit off of.
What the heck is the point? Is it just adding calories to maintain on top of my daily calorie goal?
Like yesterday I burned 1,500 calories total. My calorie goal was set to 1,200. I got extra calories for a 150 calorie workout PLUS a 400 calorie adjustment. Like I said I burned literally 1,500 all day long (including my workout).
How is MFP adding adjustments. What the eff is going on. I assumed it wouldn't add extra calories until I'd gone over my predicted calories burned (as set by my activity level).
I am getting calories added when I am not going to go over MFPs original maintenance estimate. I am getting extra calories when I'm being MORE sedentary than MFPs estimates which they've created my deficit off of.
What the heck is the point? Is it just adding calories to maintain on top of my daily calorie goal?
Like yesterday I burned 1,500 calories total. My calorie goal was set to 1,200. I got extra calories for a 150 calorie workout PLUS a 400 calorie adjustment. Like I said I burned literally 1,500 all day long (including my workout).
How is MFP adding adjustments. What the eff is going on. I assumed it wouldn't add extra calories until I'd gone over my predicted calories burned (as set by my activity level).
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Go into your settings and make sure the negative calorie adjustment box is not checked, unfortunately you can't turn off the exercise part, unless you have premium, but if anything shows up you can just delete it
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Sounds like you have it synced to another app. My fitbit automatically sends over a daily calorie burn adjustment with my steps. MFP subtracts what my activity burn is and adds the difference.
So my daily from MFP is 1470. I ate 1472. Fitbit sent 2300. MFP says I should be at 1720 for my activity level. So it adds 580. 1470 - 1472 + 580 = 578.
If you click on the exercise adjustment at the bottom of your diary, you can see the adjustment
EDIT: the burn fitbit sent over included a 450 calorie burn from my workout.0 -
Negative adjustments. If you are wearing a device all day it'll track things and adjust as necessary0
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Thanks for the responses guys... but i'm still not understanding.
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Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.0
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Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
I set my goals for exercise. I have already unlinked all others accounts.
Here's what i'm not getting:
MFP assumes my mainenance calories is 1600
I am burning 1,500 all day long according to my Garmin
this includes my exercise cals
My MFP goal is set to 1,200
IF anything, shouldn't MFP take away a hundred cals to keep my deficit the same? (Or not because it doesn't adjust lower than 1,200)
Why on earth if MFP adding an extra 450 calories in garmin adjustments PLUS 150 for exercise when i haven't exceeded my estimated TDEE? Does that make sense?
If i didn't know any better or hadn't used MFP before i would be completely overeating and gaining weight. Even though both are set with the same goal and information.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
I set my goals for exercise. I have already unlinked all others accounts.
Here's what i'm not getting:
MFP assumes my mainenance calories is 1600
I am burning 1,500 all day long according to my Garmin
this includes my exercise cals
My MFP goal is set to 1,200
IF anything, shouldn't MFP take away a hundred cals to keep my deficit the same? (Or not because it doesn't adjust lower than 1,200)
Why on earth if MFP adding an extra 450 calories in garmin adjustments PLUS 150 for exercise when i haven't exceeded my estimated TDEE? Does that make sense?
If i didn't know any better or hadn't used MFP before i would be completely overeating and gaining weight. Even though both are set with the same goal and information.
When you click on the exercise adjustment in your diary, what does it says about the adjustment calculations?0 -
Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
MFP doesn't ever include exercise until you add it in each and every time you exercise. It sounds like you're referring to the exercise goal section, which does nothing to adjust your calories.
OP - where are you getting the 1500 from? How long have you had your fitibit? Maybe you're more active than you think you are?1 -
Whoops, you have a Garmin, I thought I read fitbit. Is this adjustment every day?
I'm not really sure what's going on, because it shouldn't add anything unless you're more active than you told it you would be. I can understand your confusion. I can only think that you're being more active than you thought, so it's adding those in. Are you certain 1500 was your total burned through Garmin and didn't include your deficit? If you are, I guess my post is useless, because I can't figure it out either!0 -
Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
MFP doesn't ever include exercise until you add it in each and every time you exercise. It sounds like you're referring too the exercise goal section, which does nothing to adjust your calories.
OP - where are you getting the 1500 from? How long have you had your fitibit? Maybe you're more active than you think you are?
Yes, I was referring to when you first set up MFP to calculate how many calories you need based on what you put in, which includes the exercise goals, and yes I know it does not post anything in the exercise section
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Whoops, you have a Garmin, I thought I read fitbit. Is this adjustment every day?
I'm not really sure what's going on, because it shouldn't add anything unless you're more active than you told it you would be. I can understand your confusion. I can only think that you're being more active than you thought, so it's adding those in. Are you certain 1500 was your total burned through Garmin and didn't include your deficit? If you are, I guess my post is useless, because I can't figure it out either!
Cant take a screen shot right now... but...
EXERCISES Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
Cardiovascular
Aerobics, general 151 19
Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 372 1
Totals 1,355 146 55 78 26 13
Your Daily Goal 2,023 202 67 152 25 100
Remaining 668 56 12 74 0 87
Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Iron
According to garmin, i had 4,292 steps
151 exercise calories
1538 calories burned all day
so i ate.. what? A 200 calorie deficit? Why the heck is it adding 500 calories.
See what i'm talking about? So far today i've made exaclt 1,600 steps and burned 846 calories. Yet MFP has an added adjustment of "Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 434 1" so far. This is what it did yesterday too. I could understand if it was trying to predict me burning more throughout the day based on me being more active than MFP's assumptions... but.... what the heck? It's 3PM and i'm clearly not going over that today.
P.S. it does this to my boyfriend too since he linked his to MFP. I had to actually stop him because he was about to just completely undo his calorie deficit.0 -
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Why on earth if MFP adding an extra 450 calories in garmin adjustments PLUS 150 for exercise when i haven't exceeded my estimated TDEE? Does that make sense?
Garmin adjustments? Sounds like your garmin is syncing to your MFP
yes, it is syncing to MFP. i did this because i assumed MFP's technology was not a big piece of *kitten* and would add any additional calories i need if i'm more active than anticipated. This is how it was designed to work... right?0 -
Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
MFP doesn't ever include exercise until you add it in each and every time you exercise. It sounds like you're referring too the exercise goal section, which does nothing to adjust your calories.
OP - where are you getting the 1500 from? How long have you had your fitibit? Maybe you're more active than you think you are?
Yes, I was referring to when you first set up MFP to calculate how many calories you need based on what you put in, which includes the exercise goals, and yes I know it does not post anything in the exercise section
MFP doesn't include that in your calories needs, though, which it sound like you're saying it does and that it might somehow affect OP's numbers.
OP - Maybe you just shouldn't have them synced for a while, and see what your results are based on MFP's numbers and Garmin's estimations.0 -
Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
MFP doesn't ever include exercise until you add it in each and every time you exercise. It sounds like you're referring too the exercise goal section, which does nothing to adjust your calories.
OP - where are you getting the 1500 from? How long have you had your fitibit? Maybe you're more active than you think you are?
Yes, I was referring to when you first set up MFP to calculate how many calories you need based on what you put in, which includes the exercise goals, and yes I know it does not post anything in the exercise section
MFP doesn't include that in your calories needs, though, which it sound like you're saying it does and that it might somehow affect OP's numbers.
OP - Maybe you just shouldn't have them synced for a while, and see what your results are based on MFP's numbers and Garmin's estimations.
I guess. It just makes me mad. I've been a member of MFP for 5 years. I finally have a really really expensive device and one of it's features is "sync's with MFP". It's just infuriating that MFP would even offer such a technology if it doesn't even work.
Like, why even track with MFP instead of fitbit, garmin, etc. , ya know? Seems kind of useless to track my activity with one device and then have to manually add up "okay today i burned x calories so i can eat x calories".
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rainbowbow wrote: »Whoops, you have a Garmin, I thought I read fitbit. Is this adjustment every day?
I'm not really sure what's going on, because it shouldn't add anything unless you're more active than you told it you would be. I can understand your confusion. I can only think that you're being more active than you thought, so it's adding those in. Are you certain 1500 was your total burned through Garmin and didn't include your deficit? If you are, I guess my post is useless, because I can't figure it out either!
Cant take a screen shot right now... but...
EXERCISES Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
Cardiovascular
Aerobics, general 151 19
Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 372 1
Totals 1,355 146 55 78 26 13
Your Daily Goal 2,023 202 67 152 25 100
Remaining 668 56 12 74 0 87
Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Iron
According to garmin, i had 4,292 steps
151 exercise calories
1538 calories burned all day
so i ate.. what? A 200 calorie deficit? Why the heck is it adding 500 calories.
See what i'm talking about? So far today i've made exaclt 1,600 steps and burned 846 calories. Yet MFP has an added adjustment of "Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 434 1" so far. This is what it did yesterday too. I could understand if it was trying to predict me burning more throughout the day based on me being more active than MFP's assumptions... but.... what the heck? It's 3PM and i'm clearly not going over that today.
P.S. it does this to my boyfriend too since he linked his to MFP. I had to actually stop him because he was about to just completely undo his calorie deficit.
Have both of you gone into your device and made sure it's all correct - that you have the correct sex entered, height, the correct goal, all that? Because if it's telling you your goal is 2,000 calories, it seems like there's something off. I don't have a Garmin, so I don't know if there's something obvious here that another user might see. It makes no sense at all that it's telling you your goal is 2,000 calories unless you selected gain weight as your goal. It's giving me a headache now.0 -
Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
MFP doesn't ever include exercise until you add it in each and every time you exercise. It sounds like you're referring too the exercise goal section, which does nothing to adjust your calories.
OP - where are you getting the 1500 from? How long have you had your fitibit? Maybe you're more active than you think you are?
Yes, I was referring to when you first set up MFP to calculate how many calories you need based on what you put in, which includes the exercise goals, and yes I know it does not post anything in the exercise section
MFP doesn't include that in your calories needs, though, which it sound like you're saying it does and that it might somehow affect OP's numbers.
OP - Maybe you just shouldn't have them synced for a while, and see what your results are based on MFP's numbers and Garmin's estimations.
Funny, when I put in that I will be working out 3 days a week @ 30 minutes a day, my daily calories for MFP changes compared to No exercise goal at all.
So what I am saying is that MFP has already calculated her calories to include her exercise goals and her Garmin is telling them that she has already exceeded those goals and is making adjustments based on that.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »Whoops, you have a Garmin, I thought I read fitbit. Is this adjustment every day?
I'm not really sure what's going on, because it shouldn't add anything unless you're more active than you told it you would be. I can understand your confusion. I can only think that you're being more active than you thought, so it's adding those in. Are you certain 1500 was your total burned through Garmin and didn't include your deficit? If you are, I guess my post is useless, because I can't figure it out either!
Cant take a screen shot right now... but...
EXERCISES Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
Cardiovascular
Aerobics, general 151 19
Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 372 1
Totals 1,355 146 55 78 26 13
Your Daily Goal 2,023 202 67 152 25 100
Remaining 668 56 12 74 0 87
Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Iron
According to garmin, i had 4,292 steps
151 exercise calories
1538 calories burned all day
so i ate.. what? A 200 calorie deficit? Why the heck is it adding 500 calories.
See what i'm talking about? So far today i've made exaclt 1,600 steps and burned 846 calories. Yet MFP has an added adjustment of "Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 434 1" so far. This is what it did yesterday too. I could understand if it was trying to predict me burning more throughout the day based on me being more active than MFP's assumptions... but.... what the heck? It's 3PM and i'm clearly not going over that today.
P.S. it does this to my boyfriend too since he linked his to MFP. I had to actually stop him because he was about to just completely undo his calorie deficit.
Have both of you gone into your device and made sure it's all correct - that you have the correct sex entered, height, the correct goal, all that? Because if it's telling you your goal is 2,000 calories, it seems like there's something off. I don't have a Garmin, so I don't know if there's something obvious here that another user might see. It makes no sense at all that it's telling you your goal is 2,000 calories unless you selected gain weight as your goal. It's giving me a headache now.
yes, that's the first thing i checked.
Both MFP and garmin have my same height, age, weight, sex, estimated activity level, weight loss goal per week, etc.
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Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
MFP doesn't ever include exercise until you add it in each and every time you exercise. It sounds like you're referring too the exercise goal section, which does nothing to adjust your calories.
OP - where are you getting the 1500 from? How long have you had your fitibit? Maybe you're more active than you think you are?
Yes, I was referring to when you first set up MFP to calculate how many calories you need based on what you put in, which includes the exercise goals, and yes I know it does not post anything in the exercise section
MFP doesn't include that in your calories needs, though, which it sound like you're saying it does and that it might somehow affect OP's numbers.
OP - Maybe you just shouldn't have them synced for a while, and see what your results are based on MFP's numbers and Garmin's estimations.
Funny, when I put in that I will be working out 3 days a week @ 30 minutes a day, my daily calories for MFP changes compared to No exercise goal at all.
So what I am saying is that MFP has already calculated her calories to include her exercise goals and her Garmin is telling them that she has already exceeded those goals and is making adjustments based on that.
but that's not physically possible.
MFP says you maintain on 1,600 calories.
Garmin says yeah pretty close but around 1550 or so.
MFP is giving me an additional 500 calories for (insert some insane nonsense reason here).
Namsayain? There is literally no reason i can fathom as to why it's giving me extra calories.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Whoops, you have a Garmin, I thought I read fitbit. Is this adjustment every day?
I'm not really sure what's going on, because it shouldn't add anything unless you're more active than you told it you would be. I can understand your confusion. I can only think that you're being more active than you thought, so it's adding those in. Are you certain 1500 was your total burned through Garmin and didn't include your deficit? If you are, I guess my post is useless, because I can't figure it out either!
Cant take a screen shot right now... but...
EXERCISES Calories Minutes Sets Reps Weight
Cardiovascular
Aerobics, general 151 19
Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 372 1
Totals 1,355 146 55 78 26 13
Your Daily Goal 2,023 202 67 152 25 100
Remaining 668 56 12 74 0 87
Calories Carbs Fat Protein Fiber Iron
According to garmin, i had 4,292 steps
151 exercise calories
1538 calories burned all day
so i ate.. what? A 200 calorie deficit? Why the heck is it adding 500 calories.
See what i'm talking about? So far today i've made exaclt 1,600 steps and burned 846 calories. Yet MFP has an added adjustment of "Garmin Connect calorie adjustment 434 1" so far. This is what it did yesterday too. I could understand if it was trying to predict me burning more throughout the day based on me being more active than MFP's assumptions... but.... what the heck? It's 3PM and i'm clearly not going over that today.
P.S. it does this to my boyfriend too since he linked his to MFP. I had to actually stop him because he was about to just completely undo his calorie deficit.
Have both of you gone into your device and made sure it's all correct - that you have the correct sex entered, height, the correct goal, all that? Because if it's telling you your goal is 2,000 calories, it seems like there's something off. I don't have a Garmin, so I don't know if there's something obvious here that another user might see. It makes no sense at all that it's telling you your goal is 2,000 calories unless you selected gain weight as your goal. It's giving me a headache now.
yes, that's the first thing i checked.
Both MFP and garmin have my same height, age, weight, sex, estimated activity level, weight loss goal per week, etc.
Argh. I'm so sorry I couldn't help!0 -
I would un-sync your device from mfp and manually add in any extra calories earned from exercise0
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Did you set your goals for exercise? Me, I have mine set to 3 days @ 30 minutes each time, so fitnesspal already makes the adjustment to my calorie goals BEFORE I even do any thing else. Do you have a fitbit or similar device or app synced with your fitnesspal account? Mapmyride? ANY app that records your exercise that is linked/synced with fitnesspal will automatically adjust your calories that you need for the day. If you do, then unsync them and they will not record any of your workouts to fitnesspal.
MFP doesn't ever include exercise until you add it in each and every time you exercise. It sounds like you're referring too the exercise goal section, which does nothing to adjust your calories.
OP - where are you getting the 1500 from? How long have you had your fitibit? Maybe you're more active than you think you are?
Yes, I was referring to when you first set up MFP to calculate how many calories you need based on what you put in, which includes the exercise goals, and yes I know it does not post anything in the exercise section
MFP doesn't include that in your calories needs, though, which it sound like you're saying it does and that it might somehow affect OP's numbers.
OP - Maybe you just shouldn't have them synced for a while, and see what your results are based on MFP's numbers and Garmin's estimations.
Funny, when I put in that I will be working out 3 days a week @ 30 minutes a day, my daily calories for MFP changes compared to No exercise goal at all.
So what I am saying is that MFP has already calculated her calories to include her exercise goals and her Garmin is telling them that she has already exceeded those goals and is making adjustments based on that.
Do you have premium or something?
My goals don't change when I alter any of that, and they never have because MFP's whole premise is based on NEAT and not TDEE. I can put in 0 workouts or 7 workouts at 1,000 minutes and nothing changes. Over the years I've seen many other posters advise newbies of the same thing, because they thought they were double counting calories if they added exercise. So, I'm not sure why yours would be different. My fitbit adjusts based on my daily activity and it doesn't double-count anything, it adds or subtracts calories based on needs - and that's why OP's so frustrated, because that's what should be happening with hers as well.0 -
Maybe this will explain it better --
https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/410332-how-does-myfitnesspal-calculate-my-initial-goals-0 -
I don't know why my changes, since they say they don't use that part.........but, I also see that the OP is adding exercise along with what movement garmin is showing........I have a fitbit and I don't record any exercise, I just let my fitbit do the reporting of my movements.......could that be the additional calories added?
Unless I'm misunderstanding what was written in the post0 -
One thing I've noticed, and I don't know if it will help, is that mfp will predict how much you will burn (when negative adjustments are turned off) based on what you've already burned and how much of the day is left.
For example, I've been pretty inactive this morning and when I synced this morning, it predicted my fitbit adjustment would be 1663 for the day. That's based on my activity level remaining the same until midnight. If you've been fairly active, it might make a prediction that you'll remain that active until midnight and adjust accordingly.
This is one of the reasons I only eat back my exercise calories. So if my adjustment was 500, but my workout was only 350, I would only eat back a portion of the 350, not the 500.1 -
One thing I've noticed, and I don't know if it will help, is that mfp will predict how much you will burn (when negative adjustments are turned off) based on what you've already burned and how much of the day is left.
For example, I've been pretty inactive this morning and when I synced this morning, it predicted my fitbit adjustment would be 1663 for the day. That's based on my activity level remaining the same until midnight. If you've been fairly active, it might make a prediction that you'll remain that active until midnight and adjust accordingly.
This is one of the reasons I only eat back my exercise calories. So if my adjustment was 500, but my workout was only 350, I would only eat back a portion of the 350, not the 500.
yes, this is what i thought was going on. i was just wondering why on earth MFP would assume (like today for example) that i can have an extra 500 calories "based on my predicted activity level" when it is literally 3PM and i've done 1,000 steps.
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I don't know why my changes, since they say they don't use that part.........but, I also see that the OP is adding exercise along with what movement garmin is showing........I have a fitbit and I don't record any exercise, I just let my fitbit do the reporting of my movements.......could that be the additional calories added?
Unless I'm misunderstanding what was written in the post
I think you're misunderstanding. 0 -
Maybe this will explain it better --
https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/410332-how-does-myfitnesspal-calculate-my-initial-goals-
I don't need to read that. I've been using MFP for 4 years almost continuously. I can go in and change my goals right now and it doesn't alter anything. In fact, I just did that just to verify that MFP hasn't suddenly changed how it works. No matter what my exercise goal was, my calorie goal remained the same - 1600. That sort of change would alter the very premise of MFP - NEAT. If your weekly exercise goal mattered, MFP would be using the TDEE method.
There are so many posts about exercise calories because people don't understand NEAT [MFP] vs TDEE [pretty much every other calculator]. Anyway, this is a side conversation. OP has been here a long time, too, and I'm pretty sure understands adding exercise calories. The issue seems like it's coming down to some sort of synching or something with the device itself.0
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