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afraid of animal fats and cholesterol?
Crisseyda
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Do you still think eating butter will give you heart disease?
Check out Dr. Maryanne Demasi's documentary. Lots of great information here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGIGXfIDaJo#action=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY4eTGMe-EY#action=share
Check out Dr. Maryanne Demasi's documentary. Lots of great information here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGIGXfIDaJo#action=sharehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY4eTGMe-EY#action=share 2
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Disappointed numbers were not given.
No site seems to give numbers.
Only 1 site told me:
I ate more saturated fats and my LDL went up.
I ate an avocado for breakfast. So I am not afraid.
I want info on limits - no one is offering this.
I want studies, results, cholesterol numbers, heart disease risks.
Maybe taking a vegetarian and seeing if eating 40+ grams of sat fat a day makes him healthier.
Real numbers. Data.
By now, everyone should know cholesterol in eggs is ok.3 -
I've always preferred butter over margarine any day of the week. I cringe when I eat out and all that is available is margarine. Want to hurt yourself then eat that fake crap.1
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JanetYellen wrote: »Disappointed numbers were not given.
No site seems to give numbers.
Only 1 site told me:
I ate more saturated fats and my LDL went up.
I ate an avocado for breakfast. So I am not afraid.
I want info on limits - no one is offering this.
I want studies, results, cholesterol numbers, heart disease risks.
Maybe taking a vegetarian and seeing if eating 40+ grams of sat fat a day makes him healthier.
Real numbers. Data.
By now, everyone should know cholesterol in eggs is ok.
There are no numbers when it comes to diet. Enjoy cholesterol rich foods
To quote the newest USDA 2015 dietary Guidelines:
Previously, the Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommended that cholesterol intake be limited to no more than 300 mg/day. The 2015 DGAC will not bring forward this recommendation because available evidence shows no appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol, consistent with the conclusions of the AHA/ACC report.2 35 Cholesterol is not a nutrient of concern for overconsumption.
source: http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015-scientific-report/06-chapter-1/d1-2.asp
Even mainstream USDA and AHA organizations are finally coming along! Yet, somehow this hasn't made enough headlines to counter years of misinformation.
On a side note, if you are worried about heart disease, avoid things that cause inflammation: lack of sleep, stress, smoking, sugar and refined carbohydrates (insulin resistance the greatest risk factor), and excess omega 6 fatty acids and trans fats (found in all the refined, processed fats like margarine and soybean oil... not nature).3 -
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in my n=1 study, eating saturated fats had my LDL cholesterol through the roof (202). Cutting out animal foods (and by extension most but not all saturated fats) had it down to 88. HDL (the "good" stuff) was essentially unchanged.
I accept that the interplay with diet and genetics is important here i.e. everyone is different. I know this because DH's number profile has always been different than mine, and we eat the same stuff.
But I'm not much interested in all this eat-butter-and-lard-it-won't-kill-you stuff, unless someone can prove that serum cholesterol readings are irrelevant for heart disease risk.9 -
And there are many youtube videos saying that cholesterol does not affect heart disease.
Yet, there are no numbers. No data. No scientific studies.
Just people talking.
I want to see a vegetarian add 40 grams of saturated fat to their daily diet.
And cut back on veggies, grains, and fruit to make up for the caloric difference.
And see how it affects their health.
There is also data that shows that 50% of those that die of heart attacks had normal cholesterol levels.
More than 50% of our senior citizens are on cholesterol lowering medicines.
How can this data be accurate then?
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I guess I'm lucky that I don't like most animal fats so I don't really have to worry much about this. Most animals I eat are lean or higher in unsaturated fats.0
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My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.1
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I should get my levels checked. They were a little high when I was obese so it would be interesting to see the change. I still eat animal fat, Obvs.0
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express.co.uk/life-style/health/672772/eat-more-fat-Britain-obesity-health-epidemic-cholesterol-NHS
UK discusses the subject.0 -
The Express is as credible as The Daily Mail.9
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I eat the fat that tastes better. No one is getting out of here alive. MMMM.....unsalted kerry irish gold on my toast.8
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Eating healthy fats helped my cholesterol profile, I have always eaten eggs and butter, never margarine or just egg whites, and cheese and milk with fat, mayonnaise, olives, olive oil; adding a focus on nuts, salmon, avocado pushed up the good cholesterol so it's fine now. Blood pressure kinda high at work even though I am thin, eat well, work out, etc, that's stress and genetics.
I have never eaten a low fat diet, save for when i was eating disordered. Have never considered it healthy, anyway. Every time I look at a low-fat version of something fat, they have replaced the fat with sugar, that just does not seem healthy at all. I do like de-fatted greek yogurt, it's pretty good, but that's just yogurt made with skim milk. If we make it at home we use whole milk, that's even better, but I don't think skim milk products, without added sugars, are unhealthy within the context of a good diet.
I do not think that eating a whole bunch of steak n cheese would help one's cholesterol though, eating balanced fats makes more sense.
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Good videos.
Statins are pretty useless unless you are a middle aged male who has heart disease. Cholesterol as a measure of heart disease is pretty uselss for most too. We really went in the wrong direction for a long time...
I used to follow a low fat diet. I wouldn'even butter my toast. Leanest cuts of meat I could find. skipped many egg yolks... Psht. I completely bought into the food pyramid and cholesterol is evil and will clog up your arteries... Bunch of bunk.
I now eat high fat, with a focus on saturated fats and monounsaturated fats. I feel better, I look better, and my weight is better.2 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.
You see, one of the main points in the documentary is that "numbers" are a very poor predictor when it comes to cardiac disease and vary greatly by age and gender--very high cholesterol, for example, is protective in old age. They don't correlate well because extra cholesterol in the blood is not the cause of heart disease. It's the inflammation that brings the extra cholesterol into the artery walls and creates plaques. Focus is placed on the numbers because medical intervention exists to target them: statins (be they harmful, effective, or not, they do "something" and generate revenue). But really focus should be on addressing inflammation--like proper oral hygiene, stress reduction, avoidance of refined fats and refined carbohydrates. In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first (by keeping your insulin levels low). If you know anything about LDL particle size (see above documentary), your small dense particles (which are more easily oxidized, pro-inflammatory, and correlate more with cardiac disease) increase with intake of dietary refined carbohydrate--not fat and cholesterol. A nuclear lipid panel will actually break down the LDL particle size for you, and give you a better picture of your cardiac risk
All that being said, a simple lipid panel is really almost meaningless. If you think you may have cardiac disease, and you want to know for sure, one of the most effective tests you can get is a coronary calcium scan. Here's a great presentation on the meaningfulness of this scan in terms of risk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggovoQ8JKyw&feature=youtu.be 4 -
Anything greasy like butter margarine animal fat has always grossed me out. Let fat congeal in a pan its gross dont even like the idea of it in my body. In my mind its the opposite of clean eating.Intuitively I feel it is not healthy for MY body. Ive been vegan for awhile Im curious what my #s are. When I last had them done 10 years ago it was high 205 but it was unckear how much was Good/bad cholesterol? The old adage everything in moderation fits..0
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aqsylvester wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.
In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first (by keeping your insulin levels low).
Well, apparently saturated fat does in fact increase insulin resistance.
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/lipotoxicity-how-saturated-fat-raises-blood-sugar/
And as several people have said, decreasing saturated fat also lowered my cholesterol (from 278 to 168) by cutting way back on animal fats and overall fats to under 15%. No reason to roll the dice and listen to high fat paleo dogma and risk one's health by ignoring current guidelines about saturated fat and heart disease. I like to have normal lab results and now I do after lowering dietary fat.
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dopeysmelly wrote: »But I'm not much interested in all this eat-butter-and-lard-it-won't-kill-you stuff, unless someone can prove that serum cholesterol readings are irrelevant for heart disease risk.
Can't prove a negative, but don't see the evidence that the lab numbers you refer to are strong drivers of heart disease risk, the risk calculators use ratios like Total/HDL and Triglycerides/HDL rather than headline numbers don't they ?
The cholesterol number of patients presenting with heart disease are interesting.
Several systematic reviews and the like over the last 6+ years have said saturated fat is not a problem in itself and substituting it with some things (eg high GI carbohydrate) can make things worse. Replacing sat fat with monounsaturated fat may be helpful, but that isn't the prevailing conventional wisdom of reducing fat.
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Traveler120 wrote: »aqsylvester wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.
In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first (by keeping your insulin levels low).
Well, apparently saturated fat does in fact increase insulin resistance.
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/lipotoxicity-how-saturated-fat-raises-blood-sugar/
And as several people have said, decreasing saturated fat also lowered my cholesterol (from 278 to 168) by cutting way back on animal fats and overall fats to under 15%. No reason to roll the dice and listen to high fat paleo dogma and risk one's health by ignoring current guidelines about saturated fat and heart disease. I like to have normal lab results and now I do after lowering dietary fat.
I wouldn't be too sure:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20938439
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Gianfranco_R wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »aqsylvester wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.
In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first (by keeping your insulin levels low).
Well, apparently saturated fat does in fact increase insulin resistance.
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/lipotoxicity-how-saturated-fat-raises-blood-sugar/
And as several people have said, decreasing saturated fat also lowered my cholesterol (from 278 to 168) by cutting way back on animal fats and overall fats to under 15%. No reason to roll the dice and listen to high fat paleo dogma and risk one's health by ignoring current guidelines about saturated fat and heart disease. I like to have normal lab results and now I do after lowering dietary fat.
I wouldn't be too sure:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20938439
http://foris.fao.org/preview/25553-0ece4cb94ac52f9a25af77ca5cfba7a8c.pdf
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dopeysmelly wrote: »But I'm not much interested in all this eat-butter-and-lard-it-won't-kill-you stuff, unless someone can prove that serum cholesterol readings are irrelevant for heart disease risk.
Can't prove a negative, but don't see the evidence that the lab numbers you refer to are strong drivers of heart disease risk, the risk calculators use ratios like Total/HDL and Triglycerides/HDL rather than headline numbers don't they ?
The cholesterol number of patients presenting with heart disease are interesting.
Several systematic reviews and the like over the last 6+ years have said saturated fat is not a problem in itself and substituting it with some things (eg high GI carbohydrate) can make things worse. Replacing sat fat with monounsaturated fat may be helpful, but that isn't the prevailing conventional wisdom of reducing fat.
Yes it is:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/3 -
Anything greasy like butter margarine animal fat has always grossed me out. Let fat congeal in a pan its gross dont even like the idea of it in my body. In my mind its the opposite of clean eating.Intuitively I feel it is not healthy for MY body. Ive been vegan for awhile Im curious what my #s are. When I last had them done 10 years ago it was high 205 but it was unckear how much was Good/bad cholesterol? The old adage everything in moderation fits..
You do still need saturated fat. Avocados, nuts, coconut. If all your fat is coming from refined vegetable oil, or if you aren't getting enough fat overall, that's not healthy.
Off topic but I hate the idea of clean vs dirty when it comes to eating. We are embodied, on a world covered with dirt. Vegetables are grown in dirt. We are physical, carbon based living beings. Eating to nourish your body is good, eating enough fiber keeps everything moving, but your insides should not be clean. We are crawling with microorganisms that keep us alive. If you were clean you would be dead.9 -
Anything greasy like butter margarine animal fat has always grossed me out. Let fat congeal in a pan its gross dont even like the idea of it in my body. In my mind its the opposite of clean eating.Intuitively I feel it is not healthy for MY body. Ive been vegan for awhile Im curious what my #s are. When I last had them done 10 years ago it was high 205 but it was unckear how much was Good/bad cholesterol? The old adage everything in moderation fits..
You do still need saturated fat. Avocados, nuts, coconut. If all your fat is coming from refined vegetable oil, or if you aren't getting enough fat overall, that's not healthy.
Off topic but I hate the idea of clean vs dirty when it comes to eating. We are embodied, on a world covered with dirt. Vegetables are grown in dirt. We are physical, carbon based living beings. Eating to nourish your body is good, eating enough fiber keeps everything moving, but your insides should not be clean. We are crawling with microorganisms that keep us alive. If you were clean you would be dead.
All essential fatty acids your body needs are unsaturated.4 -
stevencloser wrote: »Anything greasy like butter margarine animal fat has always grossed me out. Let fat congeal in a pan its gross dont even like the idea of it in my body. In my mind its the opposite of clean eating.Intuitively I feel it is not healthy for MY body. Ive been vegan for awhile Im curious what my #s are. When I last had them done 10 years ago it was high 205 but it was unckear how much was Good/bad cholesterol? The old adage everything in moderation fits..
You do still need saturated fat. Avocados, nuts, coconut. If all your fat is coming from refined vegetable oil, or if you aren't getting enough fat overall, that's not healthy.
Off topic but I hate the idea of clean vs dirty when it comes to eating. We are embodied, on a world covered with dirt. Vegetables are grown in dirt. We are physical, carbon based living beings. Eating to nourish your body is good, eating enough fiber keeps everything moving, but your insides should not be clean. We are crawling with microorganisms that keep us alive. If you were clean you would be dead.
All essential fatty acids your body needs are unsaturated.
Ah - Monounsaturated is what I am thinking of. Nuts, avocado, the fat on fatty fish. Things that are solid at room temperature, though. I mean that getting all your oil from liquid vegetable oils seems less than healthy. Sorry!1 -
stevencloser wrote: »Anything greasy like butter margarine animal fat has always grossed me out. Let fat congeal in a pan its gross dont even like the idea of it in my body. In my mind its the opposite of clean eating.Intuitively I feel it is not healthy for MY body. Ive been vegan for awhile Im curious what my #s are. When I last had them done 10 years ago it was high 205 but it was unckear how much was Good/bad cholesterol? The old adage everything in moderation fits..
You do still need saturated fat. Avocados, nuts, coconut. If all your fat is coming from refined vegetable oil, or if you aren't getting enough fat overall, that's not healthy.
Off topic but I hate the idea of clean vs dirty when it comes to eating. We are embodied, on a world covered with dirt. Vegetables are grown in dirt. We are physical, carbon based living beings. Eating to nourish your body is good, eating enough fiber keeps everything moving, but your insides should not be clean. We are crawling with microorganisms that keep us alive. If you were clean you would be dead.
All essential fatty acids your body needs are unsaturated.
Ah - Monounsaturated is what I am thinking of. Nuts, avocado, the fat on fatty fish. Things that are solid at room temperature, though. I mean that getting all your oil from liquid vegetable oils seems less than healthy. Sorry!
The only essential fats are polyunsaturated.0 -
Traveler120 wrote: »aqsylvester wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.
In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first (by keeping your insulin levels low).
Well, apparently saturated fat does in fact increase insulin resistance.
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/lipotoxicity-how-saturated-fat-raises-blood-sugar/
And as several people have said, decreasing saturated fat also lowered my cholesterol (from 278 to 168) by cutting way back on animal fats and overall fats to under 15%. No reason to roll the dice and listen to high fat paleo dogma and risk one's health by ignoring current guidelines about saturated fat and heart disease. I like to have normal lab results and now I do after lowering dietary fat.
Animal fats cause insulin resistance?? Smh. This nutritionfacts.org video is by Dr. Micheal Greger. This mans pushes veganism and the pritikin diet (extremely low fat). He's pushing junk science, IMO. Saturated fat intake causes inflammation since it's breakdown creates mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, free radicals, and inflammation free radical and ceramide production? Really? He links a study which focused on palmitate... uh oh, that's a major component of breast milk. I guess we better get those babies off mommy's milk so they don't get metabolic syndrome! (Oh wait, doctors already did that once before... didn't work out so well).
He says an accumulation of saturated fat in the muscles causes an increase in daicyl-gylcerol in the muscles, which has been demonstrated to have a potent effect on muscle insulin resistance. He's talking about correlating saturated fat in the muscles with insulin resistance. What he doesn't say is that saturated fat in the muscles and saturated fat in the diet are two completely different things. Excess carbohydrates in the diet turn straight into saturated fat in the body through de novo lipogenesis. If you wanna decrease the saturated fat in your muscles, decreases the excess carbs in your diet... or you can take the calorie restricted approach *shrug* either way, decreasing your saturated fat intake will have no effect.
One of the his cited studies lumps saturated fat with trans fats--as if there were anywhere near the same thing! I just can't even, LOL.
Here's a well-known randomized trail where there were no restrictions on saturated fat intake. Guess what!?!? People with highest intake had improved insulin resistance
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=205916#REF-JOC70018-12
Many concerns have been expressed that low-carbohydrate weight-loss diets, high in total and saturated fat, will adversely affect blood lipid levels and cardiovascular risk.34- 36 These concerns have not been substantiated in recent weight-loss diet trials. The recent trials, like the current study, have consistently reported that triglycerides, HDL-C, blood pressure, and measures of insulin resistance either were not significantly different or were more favorable for the very-low-carbohydrate groups.12- 165 -
As a vegetarian, the idea of having a stick of butter in my coffee every morning and then cutting back on raspberries and broccoli is kind of daft.7
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aqsylvester wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »aqsylvester wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.
In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first (by keeping your insulin levels low).
Well, apparently saturated fat does in fact increase insulin resistance.
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/lipotoxicity-how-saturated-fat-raises-blood-sugar/
And as several people have said, decreasing saturated fat also lowered my cholesterol (from 278 to 168) by cutting way back on animal fats and overall fats to under 15%. No reason to roll the dice and listen to high fat paleo dogma and risk one's health by ignoring current guidelines about saturated fat and heart disease. I like to have normal lab results and now I do after lowering dietary fat.
Animal fats cause insulin resistance?? Smh. This nutritionfacts.org video is by Dr. Micheal Greger. This mans pushes veganism and the pritikin diet (extremely low fat). He's pushing junk science, IMO. Saturated fat intake causes inflammation since it's breakdown creates mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, free radicals, and inflammation free radical and ceramide production? Really? He links a study which focused on palmitate... uh oh, that's a major component of breast milk. I guess we better get those babies off mommy's milk so they don't get metabolic syndrome! (Oh wait, doctors already did that once before... didn't work out so well).
He says an accumulation of saturated fat in the muscles causes an increase in daicyl-gylcerol in the muscles, which has been demonstrated to have a potent effect on muscle insulin resistance. He's talking about correlating saturated fat in the muscles with insulin resistance. What he doesn't say is that saturated fat in the muscles and saturated fat in the diet are two completely different things. Excess carbohydrates in the diet turn straight into saturated fat in the body through de novo lipogenesis. If you wanna decrease the saturated fat in your muscles, decreases the excess carbs in your diet... or you can take the calorie restricted approach *shrug* either way, decreasing your saturated fat intake will have no effect.
One of the his cited studies lumps saturated fat with trans fats--as if there were anywhere near the same thing! I just can't even, LOL.
Here's a well-known randomized trail where there were no restrictions on saturated fat intake. Guess what!?!? People with highest intake had improved insulin resistance
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=205916#REF-JOC70018-12
Many concerns have been expressed that low-carbohydrate weight-loss diets, high in total and saturated fat, will adversely affect blood lipid levels and cardiovascular risk.34- 36 These concerns have not been substantiated in recent weight-loss diet trials. The recent trials, like the current study, have consistently reported that triglycerides, HDL-C, blood pressure, and measures of insulin resistance either were not significantly different or were more favorable for the very-low-carbohydrate groups.12- 16
You.... You I like!
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aqsylvester wrote: »Traveler120 wrote: »aqsylvester wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My dad improved his cholesterol numbers by cutting way back on sat fat. So far it doesn't seem to matter for me, but I pay attention for that reason.
In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first (by keeping your insulin levels low).
Well, apparently saturated fat does in fact increase insulin resistance.
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/lipotoxicity-how-saturated-fat-raises-blood-sugar/
And as several people have said, decreasing saturated fat also lowered my cholesterol (from 278 to 168) by cutting way back on animal fats and overall fats to under 15%. No reason to roll the dice and listen to high fat paleo dogma and risk one's health by ignoring current guidelines about saturated fat and heart disease. I like to have normal lab results and now I do after lowering dietary fat.
Animal fats cause insulin resistance?? Smh. This nutritionfacts.org video is by Dr. Micheal Greger. This mans pushes veganism and the pritikin diet (extremely low fat). He's pushing junk science, IMO. Saturated fat intake causes inflammation since it's breakdown creates mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, free radicals, and inflammation free radical and ceramide production? Really? He links a study which focused on palmitate... uh oh, that's a major component of breast milk. I guess we better get those babies off mommy's milk so they don't get metabolic syndrome! (Oh wait, doctors already did that once before... didn't work out so well).
He says an accumulation of saturated fat in the muscles causes an increase in daicyl-gylcerol in the muscles, which has been demonstrated to have a potent effect on muscle insulin resistance. He's talking about correlating saturated fat in the muscles with insulin resistance. What he doesn't say is that saturated fat in the muscles and saturated fat in the diet are two completely different things. Excess carbohydrates in the diet turn straight into saturated fat in the body through de novo lipogenesis. If you wanna decrease the saturated fat in your muscles, decreases the excess carbs in your diet... or you can take the calorie restricted approach *shrug* either way, decreasing your saturated fat intake will have no effect.
One of the his cited studies lumps saturated fat with trans fats--as if there were anywhere near the same thing! I just can't even, LOL.
Here's a well-known randomized trail where there were no restrictions on saturated fat intake. Guess what!?!? People with highest intake had improved insulin resistance
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=205916#REF-JOC70018-12
Many concerns have been expressed that low-carbohydrate weight-loss diets, high in total and saturated fat, will adversely affect blood lipid levels and cardiovascular risk.34- 36 These concerns have not been substantiated in recent weight-loss diet trials. The recent trials, like the current study, have consistently reported that triglycerides, HDL-C, blood pressure, and measures of insulin resistance either were not significantly different or were more favorable for the very-low-carbohydrate groups.12- 16
Virtually all official institutions, WHO, Mayoclinic, AHA, you name it, say that excess saturated fat is bad and should be limited to at most 10% of total energy intake, so same as added sugars.8 -
aqsylvester wrote: »In fact, insulin resistance is actually the greatest risk factor for heart disease--so I would focus my intervention on preventing that risk factor first ...
So people should exercise more, as exercise improves the body's sensitivity to insulin.2
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