2 strategy to lose belly fat

LeanLeme
LeanLeme Posts: 13 Member
edited December 1 in Health and Weight Loss
It's not diet or exercise this time, this is what I do more often these days
⬇️ lower your stress level
⬆️ increase your sleep
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  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    Reducing stress and improving sleep quality is good for your health, in fact it's important if you're lacking on either, but there isn't anything special about the fat on your belly, and losing fat comes from a sustained calorie deficit. No need to complicate simple things.
  • cityruss
    cityruss Posts: 2,493 Member
    Can you explain in specific terms, with resources to back up you points, how "belly fat" is specifically targeted?

    How does this fat loss differ from the fat located on your arms or legs?

    I'd love to see, as targeted fat loss flies on the face of current human physiological understanding.
  • LeanLeme
    LeanLeme Posts: 13 Member
    Notice I said 2 strategy, there's a lot more ways to lose belly fat so please claim down. A lot of us here at MFP know about calorie deficit but many people stuck and stop seeing improvement because of the two things I state above.
    Belly fat is not a weight problem it's a harmony problem, "high cortisol" problem
    Diet don't lower cortisol it lower calories
    The only way to lower cortisol is by lower your stress level
  • LeanLeme
    LeanLeme Posts: 13 Member
    Hormone Problem
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    Simply not correct
  • dragon_girl26
    dragon_girl26 Posts: 2,187 Member
    kommodevaran wrote: »
    Reducing stress and improving sleep quality is good for your health, in fact it's important if you're lacking on either, but there isn't anything special about the fat on your belly, and losing fat comes from a sustained calorie deficit. No need to complicate simple things.

    This.

    Spot reduction is simply not a thing. Adequate sleep and lower stress are good for health, but weight loss occurs from a calorie deficit.
  • lyndseybellz
    lyndseybellz Posts: 62 Member
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    I can haz all the donuts?

    RETWEET
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    If you know what Cushing's syndrome is without hitting up Google, you have the right to talk about glucocorticoids (like cortisol), otherwise you shouldn't be using the word as magic to claim it will negate the fact that fat stores won't mobilize in a surplus.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,021 Member
    Since everything tends to be a chemical reaction in the body, I'll agree to a point. Lowering stress can also be done by increasing stress, such as in exercise. Cortisol isn't bad since it's raised during times of exercise. Like anything else though, over abundance of it isn't optimal to health.
    I will agree on sleep though. Many don't get enough and also don't realize that the body burns the most fat at rest and sleep than any other time of the day.
    Of course you have to couple these along with a good nutrition plan to support it.

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  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    drrae65 wrote: »
    Thorsmom01 and cityruss, you're being completely rude. You're all acting like he's trying to sell a pill or something - he's actually giving really good advice that's often overlooked in the weight loss community. Asking for scientific evidence? This is a message board on a social media platform not a search engine for empirical research. Yes, we all know you can't spot reduce but maybe for someone who is having a hard time losing those last few pounds in the stomach area this information will benefit them. I just don't understand why you're all so offended and feel the need to chew him out for giving advice that is actually really beneficial for weight loss. Here's your scientific evidence that you so desperately need, although I'm not sure if you'll be able to access it unless you have permission to access the database (which I do have because my college enrollment gives me access). All of the articles were peer reviewed and discuss how obesity is associated with higher levels of sleep problems (such as sleep apnea and sleep wake disorder) and some interesting articles mentioned the hormones ghrelin (the hunger hormone) and leptin (the satiety hormone) in which findings suggest that sleep deprivation is associated with higher levels of ghrelin and sleep has been found to alter the leptin profile.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4217002/

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.libproxy.boisestate.edu/doi/10.1196/annals.1417.033/abstract

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.libproxy.boisestate.edu/doi/10.1111/j.1467-789X.2010.00776.x/full

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.libproxy.boisestate.edu/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2826.2003.01069.x/abstract

    You're all so quick to chew him out and ask for his evidence, but maybe you would learn a few things by doing your OWN research. I think you're all worked up because he made it sound like you can spot reduce but instead of being rude why don't you try sharing some great evidence of your own so that we all learn WHY spot reduction isn't possible? Then you'd at least be helping someone, which is what these boards are for.

    Your first link has nothing to do with fat distribution.
    Your other links are behind the boise state edu firewall.

    Mentioning random hormones does not mean that sleep will improve hormonally mediated distribution. In reality, that distribution remains secondary to total calorie availability and primary sexual hormones like oestrogen and testosterone.

    http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/12/suppl_1/21.full.pdf

    The OP is wrong. Diet first, then ALSO sleep, stress and exercise as factors that impact distribution.
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  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Also, if adequate sleep and low stress is what it takes, why was Buddha fat? Every statue I've seen of him seems pretty chill.

    That's Budai.

    Buddha_Beipu.jpg

    He must not be napping well.

    Buddha clearly gets lots of sleep:

    buddha-03.jpg
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    LeanLeme wrote: »
    It's not diet or exercise this time, this is what I do more often these days
    ⬇️ lower your stress level
    ⬆️ increase your sleep

    That's wonderful that lowering your stress level and increasing your sleep has helped you to stay within your calorie goals, therefore leading to your desired weight loss. I love when that kind of thing happens. For me, if I am not sleeping well, and if my stress hits the roof, then I have a harder time staying conscious enough to pay attention to my calorie intake. The result......ooops on the scale. :smiley:
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Also, if adequate sleep and low stress is what it takes, why was Buddha fat? Every statue I've seen of him seems pretty chill.

    This is actually a good question. When I was overweight, I actually slept much better and had lower stress levels.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Since everything tends to be a chemical reaction in the body, I'll agree to a point. Lowering stress can also be done by increasing stress, such as in exercise. Cortisol isn't bad since it's raised during times of exercise. Like anything else though, over abundance of it isn't optimal to health.
    I will agree on sleep though. Many don't get enough and also don't realize that the body burns the most fat at rest and sleep than any other time of the day.
    Of course you have to couple these along with a good nutrition plan to support it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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    I don't agree with your entire assessment. You can have excellent sleep, low stress, good nutrition, and still gain weight if you eat too much.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    Conversely I am a chronic insomniac with high levels of anxiety/stress. Exercise has helped some but they are just a fact of life for me. My calorie deficit means I am losing fat, including belly fat, just fine. Sure I'd prefer it if I slept well all the time and had no stress but I'm still losing weight exactly as expected.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    LeanLeme wrote: »
    Notice I said 2 strategy, there's a lot more ways to lose belly fat so please claim down. A lot of us here at MFP know about calorie deficit but many people stuck and stop seeing improvement because of the two things I state above.
    Belly fat is not a weight problem it's a harmony problem, "high cortisol" problem
    Diet don't lower cortisol it lower calories
    The only way to lower cortisol is by lower your stress level

    I would actually say if someone gets stuck the first thing they should do is ensure they are being accurate and potentially adjust their intake or their calorie expenditure.
  • brb_2013
    brb_2013 Posts: 1,197 Member
    Good general advice to people! Sometimes we forget the basics, sleep is key to being successful! I have to say, I got what most would consider "adequate" sleep last night but I felt like a zombie this morning and I skipped a potential workout. There is time later, but I felt impacted by my lack of sleep compared to my usual 8 hours. 6 to me is like, dead zone. I am hoping that by being mindful I will avoid the over eating I tend to do on sleepy days.

    Maybe it's not scientific but your post reminded me that I do need my sleep, staying up late to watch game of thrones threatens my workout, and I should probably make sure I get enough sleep tonight!
  • Sarahb29
    Sarahb29 Posts: 952 Member
    Great advice, but I doubt it specifically targets belly fat. It's great for overall health of course! If we could target belly fat us ladies would avoid boob jobs altogether and just get fat to gain a few cup sizes then lose fat and sleep more to lose just the belly.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
    I can haz all the donuts?

    No. Because I already ate some.
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