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Soy milk - Pros & Cons
Triathlete1502
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1. Anyone would like to share their knowledge regarding benefits versus side effects of soy milk?
2. Any literature to back up your knowledge including dosage related studies?
Many thanks.
2. Any literature to back up your knowledge including dosage related studies?
Many thanks.
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As compared to regular milk or almond milk?
Isoflavenes in soy are similar to estrogen. There are rat studies that suggest that they may interfere with fertility and puberty.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soybean-fertility-hormone-isoflavones-genistein/
If true, I'll start guzzling it to reduce my menopause symptoms which are getting old fast.
Soy milk has more protein than almond milk which makes it closer to regular dairy.4 -
When you say "benefits," do you mean the benefits (if any) of replacing cow milk with soy milk? Or do you mean adding soy to the diet? Or something else?1
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How much milk is too much milk? I'd think it would be very hard to overdose on the stuff.
The RDA is 2-4 servings a day.
https://www.dairygoodness.ca/getenough/serving-sizes-tips?gclid=CLjGlY718MwCFVFgfgodfJ0HdQ0 -
What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.0
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Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I'm not a fan. Impossible to describe the taste. Not the worst thing in the world...just tastes wrong to me.0 -
MissusMoon wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I'm not a fan. Impossible to describe the taste. Not the worst thing in the world...just tastes wrong to me.
So nothing like cows milk? I can't even drink Almond milk straight, I have to mix it with regular milk.2 -
I avoid all food or drinks that contain soy, which is a bit tough because soy protein isolate, soybean oil and/or soy lecithin seems to be in just about all processed foods, including healthy nutrition bars, tuna fish, spaghetti sauce, and vitamin supplements. I read all labels very carefully!
Several of my health professionals (Western, Eastern and alternative medicine) have advised against it. Because it is an estrogen mimicker there are some who believe it can cause estrogen dominance, especially in women, with a subsequent greater risk of breast cancer.
Here's a list of some related studies:
http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/studies-showing-adverse-effects-of-dietary-soy-1939-2008/
Although the above list doesn't contain links to the actual studies, they are named and dated so could be researched individually is someone chooses to research further.
Also, although I know the jury is still out on GMO's, my understanding is that the vast majority of soybeans grown, processed and sold in the US are genetically modified. Based on my limited knowledge, I think it's just wise for me to not eat or drink it.4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I'm not a fan. Impossible to describe the taste. Not the worst thing in the world...just tastes wrong to me.
So nothing like cows milk? I can't even drink Almond milk straight, I have to mix it with regular milk.
The closest regular milk comparison I could make is the taste reminds me of that travesty called powdered milk. Almond milk tastes better in my opinion. I have no desire to give up dairy, I enjoy it, but if forced I'd choose almond over soy hands down.2 -
RaeBeeBaby wrote: »
Also, although I know the jury is still out on GMO's, my understanding is that the vast majority of soybeans grown, processed and sold in the US are genetically modified. Based on my limited knowledge, I think it's just wise for me to not eat or drink it.
I don't have time to google the link, but the jury came in on GMO's and there is no cause for alarm.
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There are different brands of soy milk and each one taste different. There a couple of nice ones, it is just a matter of trying them. It's like anything, you may like one cake but not another, it doesn't mean they are all taste bad or good.3
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I like the boxed coconut milk for dairy substitutes, but I love coconut.
I keep meaning to make my own cashew milk, but that's going to be higher cal.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I've never liked cow's milk or goat's milk but I love unsweetened soy, almond and flax milk.3 -
MissusMoon wrote: »RaeBeeBaby wrote: »
Also, although I know the jury is still out on GMO's, my understanding is that the vast majority of soybeans grown, processed and sold in the US are genetically modified. Based on my limited knowledge, I think it's just wise for me to not eat or drink it.
I don't have time to google the link, but the jury came in on GMO's and there is no cause for alarm.
Yes, well there is some concern that this particular jury (study) was biased. Consumer watch groups have alleged several committee members involved in the preparation of the recent "GMOs are safe report" either received research money from several biotech companies or they had direct ties to the biotech industry. Is the fox watching the henhouse? I believe the debate will go on for some time.
Of course people are free to eat whatever they choose. I personally try to consume as much of my own home-grown food as possible and avoid GMOs and foods that contain soy and soy by-products.4 -
RaeBeeBaby wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »RaeBeeBaby wrote: »
Also, although I know the jury is still out on GMO's, my understanding is that the vast majority of soybeans grown, processed and sold in the US are genetically modified. Based on my limited knowledge, I think it's just wise for me to not eat or drink it.
I don't have time to google the link, but the jury came in on GMO's and there is no cause for alarm.
Yes, well there is some concern that this particular jury (study) was biased. Consumer watch groups have alleged several committee members involved in the preparation of the recent "GMOs are safe report" either received research money from several biotech companies or they had direct ties to the biotech industry. Is the fox watching the henhouse? I believe the debate will go on for some time.
Of course people are free to eat whatever they choose. I personally try to consume as much of my own home-grown food as possible and avoid GMOs and foods that contain soy and soy by-products.
The scientific evidence for the safety of GMOs is extensive.9 -
Ive never been a milk drinker Ive used soy annut milks for years love them all watch out for sugar tho it can b high in flavored milks.0
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In my experience, soy milk costs more and tastes horrible.
I don't have any issues digesting diary, so for me there is no benefit to using soy milk.0 -
Soy Milk is gross. That's from someone who loves almond and hazelnut milk. It really is rotten.1
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RaeBeeBaby wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »RaeBeeBaby wrote: »
Also, although I know the jury is still out on GMO's, my understanding is that the vast majority of soybeans grown, processed and sold in the US are genetically modified. Based on my limited knowledge, I think it's just wise for me to not eat or drink it.
I don't have time to google the link, but the jury came in on GMO's and there is no cause for alarm.
Yes, well there is some concern that this particular jury (study) was biased. Consumer watch groups have alleged several committee members involved in the preparation of the recent "GMOs are safe report" either received research money from several biotech companies or they had direct ties to the biotech industry. Is the fox watching the henhouse? I believe the debate will go on for some time.
Of course people are free to eat whatever they choose. I personally try to consume as much of my own home-grown food as possible and avoid GMOs and foods that contain soy and soy by-products.
If you want to avoid GMOs you'll need to stop eating pretty much every fruit and vegetable in existence. Including your home grown food.5 -
Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I personally think soy milk has the least appealing taste of all the plant milks. I usually use it for baking or smoothies when I want a protein boost (because soy has much more protein than other plant milks). If I'm going to drink it by itself or use it for cereal/lattes, I will choose almond or cashew milk.
It does vary by brand, but there is a kind of "beany" taste with soy.0 -
I love soya milk. The brand I drink costs the same as cow's milk. It's an acquired taste, it makes my porridge taste creamy without the fat of full fat milk, it has calcium and vitamin D, B2 and B12. I prefer it to almond and coconut milk (which is more expensive than Soya or cows milk)1
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Bros at the gym told me I'll turn into a woman.
How true that is, I don't know.
But I'm not willing to risk it.
Almond milk for me please.2 -
Christine_72 wrote: »MissusMoon wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I'm not a fan. Impossible to describe the taste. Not the worst thing in the world...just tastes wrong to me.
So nothing like cows milk? I can't even drink Almond milk straight, I have to mix it with regular milk.
To me, it tastes (and smells) like baby formula. Not surprising since soy is a common ingredient in formula. The smell makes me nauseated, and the taste is even worse to me so I stay far away from soy milk.
That smell is the reason I tend to not like products with soy isolate, either. On the other hand, I do like tofu.1 -
I love soya milk. The brand I drink costs the same as cow's milk. It's an acquired taste, it makes my porridge taste creamy without the fat of full fat milk, it has calcium and vitamin D, B2 and B12. I prefer it to almond and coconut milk (which is more expensive than Soya or cows milk)
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soy , almond and cashew milks are my faves they all taste sooo good i like rice milk too
cow milk smells like rotten sourness actually all dairy products smell that way3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I personally think soy milk has the least appealing taste of all the plant milks. I usually use it for baking or smoothies when I want a protein boost (because soy has much more protein than other plant milks). If I'm going to drink it by itself or use it for cereal/lattes, I will choose almond or cashew milk.
It does vary by brand, but there is a kind of "beany" taste with soy.
i actually love the beany taste , reminds me of edamame1 -
soy milk -cons.
I'm allergic to it.
Tastes not good to me
Expensive.
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I like vanilla soy milks. I'm not sure I've actually had just regular.0
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enterdanger wrote: »soy milk -cons.
I'm allergic to it.
Tastes not good to me
Expensive.
So close yet so far
The goal had almost been reached
To make a haiku
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1. As compared to regular milk or almond milk?
Based on its own merits and short falls as a milk product.
2. Isoflavenes in soy are similar to estrogen. There are rat studies that suggest that they may interfere with fertility and puberty.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soybean-fertility-hormone-isoflavones-genistein/
If true, I'll start guzzling it to reduce my menopause symptoms which are getting old fast.
Yes, indeed. Henceforth, arose the various conflicting theories of benefits and adverse effects.
3. Soy milk has more protein than almond milk which makes it closer to regular dairy.
Absolutely! Soy milk is generally packed with a fair amount of protein.
Further, I've come across the following interesting articles whilst searching on pubmed:
a. An Updated Review of Dietary Isoflavones: Nutrition, Processing, Bioavailability and Impacts on Human Health.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26565435/?i=3&from=side effects of soy milk
b. Soy foods and supplementation: a review of commonly perceived health benefits and risks.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24473985/?i=5&from=/26565435/related
c. The effects of soy isoflavones on obesity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18535167/?i=6&from=/26565435/related
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Christine_72 wrote: »What's soy milk taste like? I'm assuming it's yuck, I haven't had the nerve to try it.
I LOVE it.2
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