30 Day Sugar Free Diet
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I'm working on getting as close to whole and plant based as possible, following the 5 ingredients of less rule on any processed foods as well as no added sugar. I think its a good idea for everyone to rid things from their diet if only to feel how much these things affect you.
Keep it up!
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I have a terrible time avoiding sweets...any of them...and it shows. So when i started MFP in April I decided to cut out as much sugar as possible for the first month. The first 2 weeks were terrible and hard to deal with the cravings but I did. Now it is much much easier to say NO to a cookie or donut or candy bar etc and as time goes on, it is getting easier all the time. I'm trying to stay with berries and melons for fruit, but I love bananas so I do eat those a couple of times a week. Cutting the sugar has helped me eat more healthful meals/foods4
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Nope. I'll pass.
Since I have no medical reason to avoid sugar, there's no reason for me to do something which, for me, is not sustainable long term.4 -
booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Nope. I'll pass.
Since I have no medical reason to avoid sugar, there's no reason for me to do something which, for me, is not sustainable long term.
I think maybe a lot of people decide to reduce sugar or whatever their poison happens to be now to prevent any future health problems, rather than wait for any issues to show up. Prevention is better than cure type of thing.
I dunno, just my theory.4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Nope. I'll pass.
Since I have no medical reason to avoid sugar, there's no reason for me to do something which, for me, is not sustainable long term.
I think maybe a lot of people decide to reduce sugar or whatever their poison happens to be now to prevent any future health problems, rather than wait for any issues to show up. Prevention is better than cure type of thing.
I dunno, just my theory.
None of us come out of this alive.4 -
I'm doing no added sugar. Been sugar free since 4th April (minus maybe 4 meals where I ate out)
This is the part that cracks me up when I read these type of threads - I do no added sugar except... That means you aren't doing no added sugar - because it's not sustainable or necessary7 -
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AnsiaGardens wrote: »Congratulations on your decision to take steps toward better health! Doing something is better than nothing and you're likely to learn about yourself, your relationship with foods, and even your relationships as you embark on a journey of personal discovery. If you're hoping to drop added sugars (some people are strongly against advising this, for various reasons) you can try replacing it with honey instead. Just a thought. I've read some great articles lately that talked about honey being beneficial for weight loss, if its real raw honey. Good luck.
Lol honey is added sugar.6 -
Seriously though, what are you going to eat during this 30 days that you will be eating no sugar. Besides the obvious, candy, cake, pie, donuts, bread, pop, juice, processed foods, fruits, vegetables, dairy.
Just wondering.1 -
I'm doing no added sugar. Been sugar free since 4th April (minus maybe 4 meals where I ate out)
This is the part that cracks me up when I read these type of threads - I do no added sugar except... That means you aren't doing no added sugar - because it's not sustainable or necessary
Wow that was a super helpful comment. Thank you so much.
When I go out to eat, how am I know if the wraps that I eat have added sugar? How do I KNOW if the salad dressing has added sugar? I live in a country where the nutritional information is rarely available and if you ask the server quite often they don't know, and will ask the chef but hey, they are never quite 100% sure. Do I make bad choices when I go
Out to eat? No. Have I had dessert in the last 2 months? No, have I eaten anything that I know for sure has added sugar? No, so before you comment on MY weight loss plan, and tell me that it "cracks you up" make sure you ask about the facts. I say "minus the 4 meals" because I am sure something in my meal most likely had added sugar whether that was a bit of mustard, or mayonnaise or some bread, but no I did not "cheat" and have a dessert.
I am not at my goal yet, but am over 30lbs down and hey, it's working for me, so instead of cracking up, why don't you try supporting people on the thread who are trying to better their health and lifestyles! Jeez.
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snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
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louisepaul16 wrote: »I'm doing no added sugar. Been sugar free since 4th April (minus maybe 4 meals where I ate out)
This is the part that cracks me up when I read these type of threads - I do no added sugar except... That means you aren't doing no added sugar - because it's not sustainable or necessary
Wow that was a super helpful comment. Thank you so much.
When I go out to eat, how am I know if the wraps that I eat have added sugar? How do I KNOW if the salad dressing has added sugar? I live in a country where the nutritional information is rarely available and if you ask the server quite often they don't know, and will ask the chef but hey, they are never quite 100% sure. Do I make bad choices when I go
Out to eat? No. Have I had dessert in the last 2 months? No, have I eaten anything that I know for sure has added sugar? No, so before you comment on MY weight loss plan, and tell me that it "cracks you up" make sure you ask about the facts. I say "minus the 4 meals" because I am sure something in my meal most likely had added sugar whether that was a bit of mustard, or mayonnaise or some bread, but no I did not "cheat" and have a dessert.
I am not at my goal yet, but am over 30lbs down and hey, it's working for me, so instead of cracking up, why don't you try supporting people on the thread who are trying to better their health and lifestyles! Jeez.
In the overall context of what you eat, sugar (whether naturally occurring or added) in and of itself is not an issue, unless there's medical reasons for tracking it so carefully. For the rest of us, how much of it you consume is only an issue if it puts you in a calorie excess. Does the wrap I ate for lunch yesterday have added sugar? It could. Do I care? No. I don't care because whatever tiny bit may or may not be in there is irrelevant when viewed within the bigger picture which is everything I ate that day that was well within my calories, macros and micros allotments.
Majoring in the minors is frustrating, time consuming and counterproductive. Sugar is not evil.3 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
None of that is correct.
Fruits have varying amounts of glucose and fructose. Apples have almost 50% of their calories from pure fructose.
Fructose is also mostly metabolized into glucose, so...
Interesting how something that doesn't affect insulin is supposed to lead to insulin resistance.
Also Sugar as in table sugar, also found in many fruits naturally, also up to 50% of calories in fruits high in it, like pineapple.5 -
I'm working on getting as close to whole and plant based as possible, following the 5 ingredients of less rule on any processed foods as well as no added sugar. I think its a good idea for everyone to rid things from their diet if only to feel how much these things affect you.
Keep it up!
Fries: 2 ingredients
Mixed salad: more than 5 ingredients4 -
I'm working on getting as close to whole and plant based as possible, following the 5 ingredients of less rule on any processed foods as well as no added sugar. I think its a good idea for everyone to rid things from their diet if only to feel how much these things affect you.
Keep it up!
If you are trying to move toward whole foods it would be better to concern yourself with what ingredients are included rather than how many.
I am a fan of whole foods. It takes effort and it's expensive in today's world, either in time or money. IMO it's worth it but rules like "shop the perimeter" "don't eat things you can't pronounce" "don't eat anything with more than <insert number here> ingredients" aren't needed.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
None of that is correct.
Fruits have varying amounts of glucose and fructose. Apples have almost 50% of their calories from pure fructose.
Fructose is also mostly metabolized into glucose, so...
Interesting how something that doesn't affect insulin is supposed to lead to insulin resistance.
Also Sugar as in table sugar, also found in many fruits naturally, also up to 50% of calories in fruits high in it, like pineapple.
Ummmmm. I absolutely do not agree with you at all. Sugar as in sucrose, the white table sugar, and stuff that is added into lots of food, is one molecule glucose, one fructose. Fact. The chemical compound is C12, H22, O11, and they differ somewhat in their make up. You do not find table sugar in pineapple, you find sucrose yes, but not table sugar. Table sugar has been processed and bleached to within an inch of its life!
And honestly, how on earth can you say that sugar things do not affect insulin? Why do you think diabetics cannot (or should not) eat sugars? Because insulin is needed to break it down, and a LOT of insulin is needed to break it down, which is the problem. You eat too much sugar, body releases insulin, you eat more, if releases more until the pancreas gets to a point it cannot produce enough to keep blood sugar constant. Insulin is released to tell the liver to turn sugar into fat. That is its job so too much sugar does not enter the blood stream.
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louisepaul16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
None of that is correct.
Fruits have varying amounts of glucose and fructose. Apples have almost 50% of their calories from pure fructose.
Fructose is also mostly metabolized into glucose, so...
Interesting how something that doesn't affect insulin is supposed to lead to insulin resistance.
Also Sugar as in table sugar, also found in many fruits naturally, also up to 50% of calories in fruits high in it, like pineapple.
Ummmmm. I absolutely do not agree with you at all. Sugar as in sucrose, the white table sugar, and stuff that is added into lots of food, is one molecule glucose, one fructose. Fact. The chemical compound is C12, H22, O11, and they differ somewhat in their make up. You do not find table sugar in pineapple, you find sucrose yes, but not table sugar. Table sugar has been processed and bleached to within an inch of its life!
And honestly, how on earth can you say that sugar things do not affect insulin? Why do you think diabetics cannot (or should not) eat sugars? Because insulin is needed to break it down, and a LOT of insulin is needed to break it down, which is the problem. You eat too much sugar, body releases insulin, you eat more, if releases more until the pancreas gets to a point it cannot produce enough to keep blood sugar constant. Insulin is released to tell the liver to turn sugar into fat. That is its job so too much sugar does not enter the blood stream.
Of course you don't find table sugar in fruits. This is a circular argument though. It's table sugar specifically because it has been processed from another source.
Aside from misconceptions about what "processing" means, why does this matter though?1 -
Why does it matter for people eating it, or why does it matter for me to feel the need to correct others?
If I see people writing stuff that isn't correct then I will say I don't think it's correct. For me personally, I don't want to eat table sugar, or anything with added sugar.0 -
While it's true that sugar isn't evil, we as a society do consume WAY too much of it. Cutting back a lot is probably a great idea but don't make yourself crazy when it is impossible to know or control like at a restaurant or a friend's home.0
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louisepaul16 wrote: »Why does it matter for people eating it, or why does it matter for me to feel the need to correct others?
If I see people writing stuff that isn't correct then I will say I don't think it's correct. For me personally, I don't want to eat table sugar, or anything with added sugar.
Sugar, from any source affects, and is processed in our body's the same way.
What difference does it make whether or not it is table sugar, processed from beets or cane or corn or anything? Just wondering as you think what others are saying is incorrect.
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eveandqsmom wrote: »While it's true that sugar isn't evil, we as a society do consume WAY too much of it. Cutting back a lot is probably a great idea but don't make yourself crazy when it is impossible to know or control like at a restaurant or a friend's home.
Thanks, no I don't make myself crazy, I was just replying to a not so helpful comment earlier about someone who said how hilarious it was when people claim they're following an approach and basically cop out a few times. It annoyed me, I make good choices when I go out
To eat, but no I don't get crazy about it, the think is after cutting it out, I don't want it any more, the cravings have gone and it's almost undesirable to me
Now for the most part. I almost don't know why I'm trying to justify myself, and the way I'm losing weight, but I feel the need to. So anyway, that's what I'm up to, and currently it's working for me, and I do intend to continue doing this for a long time to come.
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eveandqsmom wrote: »While it's true that sugar isn't evil, we as a society do consume WAY too much of it. Cutting back a lot is probably a great idea but don't make yourself crazy when it is impossible to know or control like at a restaurant or a friend's home.
Cutting back is one thing (which most people would agree with), going sugar free (OP's topic) is quite another thing.
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louisepaul16 wrote: »Why does it matter for people eating it, or why does it matter for me to feel the need to correct others?
If I see people writing stuff that isn't correct then I will say I don't think it's correct. For me personally, I don't want to eat table sugar, or anything with added sugar.
It's incorrect to say that table sugar has "been processed and bleached to within an inch of its life!" since table sugar is not alive.3 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
Sugar is available as sucrose, fructose, glucose or lactose. All of these are sugars. All sugars are carbohydrates.
Sucrose is made of 1 fructose and 1 glucose molecule. It is also found naturally in a whole host of fruits and vegetables. Sucrose is broken down into its components, glucose and fructose, essentially immediately upon entering the small intestine.
Glucose will primarily be used to restore glycogen stores and will be burned for fuel. Any excess glucose not needed for fuel will be stored as fat (this occurs during a calorie surplus as there will be no excess glucose in a calorie deficit).
Fructose will reach the liver where it will be used to restore liver glycogen, fuel triglyceride synthesis and be broken down into glucose, lactate (used to fuel the body) and glycogen. Less than 1% of fructose will be converted into fat.
Processing normal amounts of fructose is not taxing on the liver because it was designed for that purpose and the liver actually depends on fructose to restore liver glycogen (which is what fuels the liver in the first place).
Also, the vast body of research we have on the subject and the consensus among medical professionals agree that intake of sugar (regardless of form) is not a known cause of insulin resistance or diabetes. The 3 known causes are genetics, obesity and a sedentary lifestyle. Sensitivity to sugar is only a symptom, not a cause.
As for fructose in fruit being "encased" in fiber, this is incorrect. It is true that the fruit contains fiber along with the fructose which results in a lower glycemic load and slower uptake into the bloodstream. However, this does not mean that the fructose doesn't make it to the liver just the same.
Fruits (eaten alone) may not spike blood sugar as quickly as fruit juice (taken alone) but all of the sugar in the fruit will make it to the same places as all the sugar in the juice.
Also, the amount of fructose in fruit is not "small." Fructose accounts for a significant proportion of the calories in fruit.5 -
I'm doing no added sugar. Been sugar free since 4th April (minus maybe 4 meals where I ate out)
This is the part that cracks me up when I read these type of threads - I do no added sugar except... That means you aren't doing no added sugar - because it's not sustainable or necessary
I agree, lol.2 -
stevencloser wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
None of that is correct.
Fruits have varying amounts of glucose and fructose. Apples have almost 50% of their calories from pure fructose.
Fructose is also mostly metabolized into glucose, so...
Interesting how something that doesn't affect insulin is supposed to lead to insulin resistance.
Also Sugar as in table sugar, also found in many fruits naturally, also up to 50% of calories in fruits high in it, like pineapple.stevencloser wrote: »I'm working on getting as close to whole and plant based as possible, following the 5 ingredients of less rule on any processed foods as well as no added sugar. I think its a good idea for everyone to rid things from their diet if only to feel how much these things affect you.
Keep it up!
Fries: 2 ingredients
Mixed salad: more than 5 ingredients
BOOM!!!!1 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »Why does it matter for people eating it, or why does it matter for me to feel the need to correct others?
If I see people writing stuff that isn't correct then I will say I don't think it's correct. For me personally, I don't want to eat table sugar, or anything with added sugar.
Sugar comes from sugar cane or sugar beets, both are plants.0 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
None of that is correct.
Fruits have varying amounts of glucose and fructose. Apples have almost 50% of their calories from pure fructose.
Fructose is also mostly metabolized into glucose, so...
Interesting how something that doesn't affect insulin is supposed to lead to insulin resistance.
Also Sugar as in table sugar, also found in many fruits naturally, also up to 50% of calories in fruits high in it, like pineapple.
Ummmmm. I absolutely do not agree with you at all. Sugar as in sucrose, the white table sugar, and stuff that is added into lots of food, is one molecule glucose, one fructose. Fact. The chemical compound is C12, H22, O11, and they differ somewhat in their make up. You do not find table sugar in pineapple, you find sucrose yes, but not table sugar. Table sugar has been processed and bleached to within an inch of its life!
And honestly, how on earth can you say that sugar things do not affect insulin? Why do you think diabetics cannot (or should not) eat sugars? Because insulin is needed to break it down, and a LOT of insulin is needed to break it down, which is the problem. You eat too much sugar, body releases insulin, you eat more, if releases more until the pancreas gets to a point it cannot produce enough to keep blood sugar constant. Insulin is released to tell the liver to turn sugar into fat. That is its job so too much sugar does not enter the blood stream.
Sucrose is table sugar.
Table sugar is sucrose.
Nothing more and nothing less.
This is the whole process how "refined" sugar is made:
"After washing, sugar beets are sliced and soaked in hot water to begin the process that separates sugar from the rest of the plant. The hot sugary liquid is filtered, concentrated to a deep brown syrup, whose color is due to its high molasses content. The molasses – rich syrup is allowed to cool slightly before it is whirled in a centrifuge – a large perforated basket spinning very rapidly much like a washing machine in the spin cycle – where most of the molasses is spun away. At the end, hot water is sprayed over the light brown crystals to remove the remaining molasses, leaving pure naturally white sugar crystals. The sugar crystals are then dried. It is important to note that beet sugar is neither chemically altered nor bleached to achieve its naturally white color."
Tl;dr; They make sugar beet tea and let it dry, then put it in a washing machine to remove the color.
https://www.sugar.org/how-we-get-sugar/6 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »louisepaul16 wrote: »snowflake930 wrote: »It is impossible to totally eliminate sugar, nor should you, your body needs it.
Your body needs glucose not sugar. They are different things.
I really don't understand why everyone is being so negative here. Sugar is something most people eat far too much of. If someone wants to do a detox for 30days why not? We do not NEED sugar, it's a substance that has no nutritional benefit to us.
Glucose is sugar.
Full Definition of glucose (Merriam Webster)
1: a crystalline sugar C6H12O6; specifically : the sweet colorless soluble dextrorotatory form that occurs widely in nature and is the usual form in which carbohydrate is assimilated by animals
2 : a light-colored syrup made from cornstarch
Eliminating foods with added sugars is great. When you say you are going sugar free for 30 days, or however long, say you are eliminating candy, pop, cookies, cakes, pies, alcohol, processed foods, etc, not that you are going sugar free, it is impossible. Very misleading to say you are going sugar free.
Sugar is made of 2 molecules: glucose and fructose. Glucose is a carbohydrate, and it is the fructose that is damaging to us not the glucose. Glucose is used by every cell in our bodies whereas fructose is metabolised by the liver, and that is what over long term excess consumption, will lead to insulin resistance and non alcoholic fatty liver disease, no I'm not
Saying that people should never have sugar in their diet occasionally but nearly all of us eat far too much of it.
The small amount of fructose in fruit is encased in fibre, not much of it is absorbed and you're getting all the other micro nutrients from the fruit, (obviously this does not include fruit juices).
None of that is correct.
Fruits have varying amounts of glucose and fructose. Apples have almost 50% of their calories from pure fructose.
Fructose is also mostly metabolized into glucose, so...
Interesting how something that doesn't affect insulin is supposed to lead to insulin resistance.
Also Sugar as in table sugar, also found in many fruits naturally, also up to 50% of calories in fruits high in it, like pineapple.
Ummmmm. I absolutely do not agree with you at all. Sugar as in sucrose, the white table sugar, and stuff that is added into lots of food, is one molecule glucose, one fructose. Fact. The chemical compound is C12, H22, O11, and they differ somewhat in their make up. You do not find table sugar in pineapple, you find sucrose yes, but not table sugar. Table sugar has been processed and bleached to within an inch of its life!
And honestly, how on earth can you say that sugar things do not affect insulin? Why do you think diabetics cannot (or should not) eat sugars? Because insulin is needed to break it down, and a LOT of insulin is needed to break it down, which is the problem. You eat too much sugar, body releases insulin, you eat more, if releases more until the pancreas gets to a point it cannot produce enough to keep blood sugar constant. Insulin is released to tell the liver to turn sugar into fat. That is its job so too much sugar does not enter the blood stream.
Table sugar is 100% sucrose. It is identical in chemical makeup to the sucrose in pineapples. So yes, table sugar is naturally occurring in fruit.
As for the insulin thing, the reason diabetics have to be careful with sugar intake is due to the fact that they have a disease which causes their insulin receptors to malfunction. The receptors do not recognize the presence of insulin (insulin resistance) and so glucose in the blood is not properly processed. Recognizing that there is still glucose in the blood, the pancreas produces more insulin and so on.
This is a symptom of the disease. The problem is that the insulin receptors don't function properly.
So what causes it? Fructose? Nope, fructose (as already explained) is metabolized in the liver and doesn't trigger an insulin response.
Glucose? Nope. While sensitivity to glucose is a symptom of diabetes, intake of glucose is not believed to be a cause for the disease (much like a head cold may cause sneezing but working in a dusty room doesn't cause head colds).
Actually, the three main culprits we know of (and there is a LOT of research which supports this) are genetics, obesity and a sedentary lifestyle.
We can't do anything about our genetics. So the best advice for avoiding diabetes is not to avoid sugar but rather to control the other two known factors by staying active and maintaining a healthy body weight.4 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »Why does it matter for people eating it, or why does it matter for me to feel the need to correct others?
If I see people writing stuff that isn't correct then I will say I don't think it's correct. For me personally, I don't want to eat table sugar, or anything with added sugar.
The issue isn't your personal preferences (we all have them), but the information you're providing.2
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