Long term (and I mean LONG TERM) exercise!

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  • pebble4321
    pebble4321 Posts: 1,132 Member
    My father is 80 next year and still walks 5 - 10k each day, usually about 4k in the morning for exercise and rest doing errands around town. And rides his pushbike too, though I'm encouraging him to give that a break for a while as he apparently has a cracked rib from a fall while he was walking recently!

    There's an ironman competition held in his town and I often go down for the weekend and watch part of the race with him. Usually we get out of bed in time to see the last part of the swimming leg and each time I've cheered on a man from Japan who I think has competed in the over 70 category for some years now. There are usually a number over 60s with some over 65, 70 and I'm sure there was someone who was late 70s one year.

    That really is impressive, as it's such a long, hard, event with time cutoffs.
  • Djproulx
    Djproulx Posts: 3,084 Member
    As an old fart of 58 myself, I know many "old folks" who participate in endurance sports successfully. Several examples come to mind. My friend Deb started triathlons at 62 and is faster now at 68 years old than when she started. (Deb runs an 8:00 mile pace during the 5k leg of a sprint distance tri). Steve in my tri club is 61 and he often finishes near the top of his age group in races. His swim, bike and run times are very fast(20mph moving ave on the bike, then sub 7:00mile run pace) , putting him well up in the standings among ALL age group competitors. I typically see a number of folks in the 70-74 and 75-79 age group at races, but my real inspiration was the gentleman lined up at the start of a race last year. His leg marking (designating sex/age) read: M88. THAT is what I'm shooting for.

    As far as maintaining performance as we age, it seems that we must "use it or lose it", and that means pushing hard, not just doing easy cardio work. With this in mind, I believe that key to success (certainly for racing fast) is to continue performing High Intensity sessions as a way to build and/or maintain speed for as long as possible. The challenge is that recovery from these sessions takes more time. So many of the best aging athletes spend a lot of time building their training programs around the proper amount of recovery work. This allows them to recover from high intensity sessions sufficiently to be ready to go hard during the next scheduled hard workout. A couple of my friends have now changed from a 7 day to a 9 day training cycle. This allows for 3 high intensity days surrounded by 2 low intensity or rest days during each "week".

    This is probably TMI for most. For the few who are similarly obsessed, a good read on this subject is Joe Friel's "Fast after 50".

  • Djproulx
    Djproulx Posts: 3,084 Member
    robininfl wrote: »
    I did Jazzercise with two ladies over 80 :)
    I do wonder about genetics vs behavior though...why do some people wear out so bad, and others seem to be helped so much by activity?

    I believe strongly that behaviors are the key. Two specific areas: 1) consistent diet and exercise regimen and 2) careful maintenance of our bodies as we age. This means focusing on things like injury prevention through a disciplined approach to recovery, stretching, foam rolling, etcetera. The "exercise overhead" becomes greater as we age, both in terms of the warm up/cool down portions of a workout as well as icing/stretching routines designed to maintain flexibility and relieve muscle inflammation.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    I'm 61 with OA for many years. I have to exercise or I "freeze up". 5 yrs ago I told my brother-in-law (a cardiologist) that the way I was going I'd be in a wheelchair in a few years (and I've always been active-swimming). 3 yrs ago I found MFP. I was so inspired by the people on here, old and young, some with handicaps, that had success stories. Instead of doing less as I was aging, I was inspired to do more. So, I started pushing myself--alittle faster, a few more reps, try new things. Know what? I feel great. I'm in better shape than I was, 8 kilos lost (18 lbs lost), I've learned to watch my macros and especially hit my proteins and fats. I'm still learning and trying, and pushing, thanks to all of you. That's the key to excercise in old age--enjoy and don't be afraid to try.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Ernestine Shepherd is in her 80s now

    This is her at 74
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    Ray Moon at 84

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    Willie Murphy at 77

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    it's all in your attitude
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    tufel wrote: »
    For the sake of argument, I am going to consider over-50 years as old age.
    My wife, who is 51, runs. In the past few years, she has run at least four marathons, and now, in the past year, she has been injured for most of the year, with slightly different ailments, mostly related to a stiff and achy, lower back.
    My point is: Many of us tend to get locked in to one type of exercise that we like to do, and after a while the toll from doing the same thing over and over begins to add up. Sometimes the key to staying active long is to recognize this fact.
    I have been trying to talk my wife into doing something different -- preferably something with a bit less pounding -- for at least six months. Maybe rowing. Maybe biking. Let the tissues rest. Let the little things heal. You can go back. But sometimes you have to rest from a repetitive motion.
    I remember hearing Serena Williams say one time that she felt that one of the reasons she was still going strong at the advanced [ahem] age of 33 years (then) was because she was injured for a year and the time off allowed her body to rest.
    I think the older you get the better off you are if you mix it up a bit.

    also you @tufel

    get out of here ;)
  • joeysgirl10
    joeysgirl10 Posts: 106 Member
    One of our water exercise ladies just turned 100 years old. She comes to class every Monday, Wednesday and Friday no matter what the weather is... she is sharp as a tack... and still drives herself here!
  • becky10rp
    becky10rp Posts: 573 Member
    My Dad is 83 and he works out @ his gym 4 days a week. He's always exercised - when I was a kid he ran everyday and rode his bike. He used to run and bike in a lot of local races. He doesn't run anymore - he still bikes a bit, and he lifts weights. He is truly an inspiration to me!
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
    What do you consider sustainable exercise?
    I consider 30-60 minutes a day sustainable. I've exercised at this level since I was a teenager - so that's 30+ years of exercising at this level. Sometimes I do more (long hikes, throw in an hour of yoga, etc). I exercised at this level when I was at my heaviest (235 lbs) and at my current and lightest weight (135 lbs).

    Who do you know, or know of, who is still exercising at advanced age, and what do they do? How long have they done it?
    My parents are 73 (mom) and 75 (dad). They both go to the gym regularly. Mom favors TRX, stationary bike, walking, and kayaking. My dad lifts weights, skis, hikes, plays competitive tennis, and is on a champion senior-Olympic level basketball team. All the guys he plays tennis and basketball with are 65 or older. They have both been lifelong exercisers. My mom was a ranked professional tennis player in her teens.

    What do you consider unsustainable exercise? What would break you down over time instead of maintaining you?
    I think this varies from person to person. Some people have a capacity to do more - I have a friend who runs ultra-marathons. He's run at least 6 miles a day -usually much more - every day for 8 years. I couldn't withstand that much pavement pounding every day without suffering orthopedic problems. When I was in my early twenties, I did 90 minutes of cardio and lifted for an hour every day. That, paired with a low calorie diet, had lasting negative health consequences (bone density loss being the primary consequence). It was overtraining.

    And do you think that what you do trumps genetics, or do you think that the old people who are athletes are genetically gifted and that's how they are able to continue so long?
    No - I do not believe you have to be genetically gifted to be an older exerciser. My mom exercises and pushes through LOTS of pain. She has extreme osteoarthritis - far worse than what is considered normal for a person her age. She has had severe arthritis since she was in her mid-30's. She has had three joint replacement surgeries, but she keeps pushing to be a regular exerciser. My dad suffers from a serious autoimmune disease that causes muscle weakness and stiffness. He has also suffered lots of sports-related injuries that he has pushed to come back from (multiple ACL/MCL repairs, torn bicep, torn rotator cuff, etc)

    Also anything else you want to add, of course.
    Of course there are genetic and luck-of-the-draw factors that impact how much you can exercise at any age, but in most cases the primary factor is willpower and a desire to remain active.
  • Djproulx
    Djproulx Posts: 3,084 Member
    UpEarly wrote: »
    Also anything else you want to add, of course.
    Of course there are genetic and luck-of-the-draw factors that impact how much you can exercise at any age, but in most cases the primary factor is willpower and a desire to remain active.

    Well said. Nailed it!
  • rainbow198
    rainbow198 Posts: 2,245 Member
    edited June 2016
    I power walk almost everyday for 1 - 1.5 hours. I've been seeing a lot of the same people on and off for over 4 years now on the track.

    One thing that has been consistent is that I see the same older people (70+) very often. They have slender, fit bodies, all are full of life, have amazing postures, they are upbeat and friendly and look great for their ages too. They walk at a good pace and for a good while as well. Seeing the older couples walk together really makes me smile. :smiley:

    I don't know their stories or where they came from physically, but all I know is I want to be like that when I get that age.

    For me though a mixture of mainly cardio (brisk walking) and strength-training (weights and bodyweight exercise), along with other activity (jump roping, aerobic dvd's, Pilates, tennis, ice skating, rollerblading etc.) has worked out well for me and it's very sustainable.

    I truly enjoy everything I do, I have a lot of variety and I love how it has helped to shape my figure. I will keep going with this fitness routine for as long as I can, but I hope to be able to continue to walking/hiking for the rest of my life!

    Edited to add...My mom (late 60's) is active with walking and using the fitness center in her condo and she looks so amazing! She's definitely my inspiration!
  • BruinsGal_91
    BruinsGal_91 Posts: 1,400 Member
    My dad was 84 last week. He goes to the gym regularly - does gentle strength training, swims, and walks on the treadmill. He was a competitive swimmer and cyclist in his youth.

    I'm in my 50s (and definitely don't consider myself 'old'). I run 10k three times a week, have a treadmill and eliptical in my basement and do plenty of hiking at weekends. In the winter I go cross-country skiing. I hope to keep this up for the next 25 years and beyond. And maybe one day I'll win the 70+ age group prize in a road race.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    Just turned 60 and have been lifting for 40+ years. I'm in the free weight part of the gym, seldom toucheck machines now. Have had several orthopedic surgeries and sepis, just worked around those issues. Also run and bike in addition to weights. Biggest regret is not working more on agility or "being athletic" after high school. Trying now to get some of that back.

    They'll have to pry the wrights from my cold dead hands.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,854 Member
    I'll be 50 in a few months ... and I feel about the same as I did in my mid-30s. Definitely not old!! My husband is 61 and he's still going strong. He works a physically active job, then walks with me after work, and cycles with me on the weekends.

    At Easter, the two of us flew up to Brisbane to cycle a 300 km randonnee (in 17 hours, including all breaks).

    We're not exactly slowing down and becoming old and decrepit just yet.
  • robininfl
    robininfl Posts: 1,137 Member
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    OP please describe "OLD"..

    I will be the 85 year old granny doing leg days on Tuesdays! I am not sure why so curious about this and is this part of a study you are doing?

    And I cannot respond to all those questions, but sustainable exercise, is exercise that you can do.. at any age!!!!

    No, not doing a study, just thought it an interesting question.

    And I answered earlier, but I personally think of old as happening around 70, understand this is different for everyone though.

    My kids seem to have the same sorts of cutoffs, people are "young" till 30, then just "adults" till they seem like "old", at around 70. I guess that's 30 years on each end of a 100 year range, 40 years in the middle to just be a grownup.
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Three family friends would qualify.

    One in his 70's, plays tennis and has since his 20's. It's more impressive because he recently had both knees replaced and still goes and plays.

    Another in his 80's, has been distance running for as long as known him, and I'm sure long before that - so at least 35 yrs. I'm pretty sure he's still much, much faster than I am.

    The third is the wife of the guy in his 80's. Another tennis player for life.
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