Ketogenic Thoughts

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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    edited June 2016
    forwardmoving wrote: »
    Several posters have mentioned the need to take in additional sodium and potassium to avoid the "carb flu".

    The kidneys are very good (in the absence of disease or trauma) at maintaining potassium and sodium levels as these are critical electrolytes (as low/high levels can cause coma and/or cardiac arrest). With most diets, the body is still able to regulate these to safe levels.

    I think (since you asked) any diet that can put you into a critical level state unless you purposely ingest additional salt or potassium is suspect.

    I can see your misunderstanding of the LCHF way of eating.

    We leave off the processed food options so we do not ingest the level of salt as one who lives on processed foods therefore we have to salt our foods. A fresh uncracked egg does not contain as much sodium as say Egg Beaters.


  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,428 MFP Moderator
    AbbyGary wrote: »
    I have PCOS, Hypothyroidism, and Insulin Resistance

    Then you have at least a good reason to go LCHF. It may be much easier (depending on you personality) to start with low carb and then transition to Keto. Depending on the severity of your condition, you might do well at 100g or you might need a lot less.
  • LeslieMartina
    LeslieMartina Posts: 158 Member
    edited June 2016
    Don't just read up on Keto, also read up on your health issues. I also have PCOS and have done a lot to figure out what works best for me. I'm not always able to totally isolate the best factor, but I do know that I lose weight at a consistent pace when low carb/low sugar. I avoid processed foods. I exercise. I'm hesitant to call myself Keto, because I don't like strictly limiting my veggie carbs. But Keto is most closely aligned with what I do. When I reach goal weight, I will be raising my carbs but still keeping them lower than the standard American diet recommendations.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    LeslieMartina wrote: »
    Don't just read up on Keto, also read up on your health issues. I also have PCOS and have done a lot to figure out what works best for me. I'm not always able to totally isolate the best factor, but I do know that I lose weight at a consistent pace when low carb/low sugar. I avoid processed foods. I exercise. I'm hesitant to call myself Keto, because I don't like strictly limiting my veggie carbs. But Keto is most closely aligned with what I do. When I reach goal weight, I will be raising my carbs but still keeping them lower than the standard American diet recommendations.

    So just call it low-carb then. Keto is an intentionally (and some would say excessively low) carbohydrate intake, intended specifically to induce ketosis. Low-carb on the other hand, can mean anything below about 150g/day, when you consider that a lot of people eat over 200-400g of it per day.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    walker1world wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    AbbyGary wrote: »
    I really need to get my weight back under control. Thoughts on the ketogenic diet?

    it is totally unnecessary for weight loss and you can accomplish the same with a calorie deficit and restricted no whole food group ...
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    AbbyGary wrote: »
    I really need to get my weight back under control. Thoughts on the ketogenic diet?

    it is totally unnecessary for weight loss and you can accomplish the same with a calorie deficit and restricted no whole food group ...

    You are right for people without insulin resistance. If you are insulin resistant eating high carbs and trying to losell weight is like peeing in the wind.

    That's not correct. Former prediabetic here 90 something pounds down on a moderate/high carb diet.

    OP some people thrive on keto, you may be one. Try it and see for yourself then you could always go back to good old simple calorie counting if you feel it's not for you.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    AbbyGary wrote: »
    I have PCOS, Hypothyroidism, and Insulin Resistance

    You should have referenced that in your OP..I would suggest talking to a doctor and registered dietician ...
  • LeslieMartina
    LeslieMartina Posts: 158 Member
    Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
    So just call it low-carb then. Keto is an intentionally (and some would say excessively low) carbohydrate intake, intended specifically to induce ketosis. Low-carb on the other hand, can mean anything below about 150g/day, when you consider that a lot of people eat over 200-400g of it per day.

    Thanks. I know what Keto is. Does it really matter what I call the way I eat? I'm not in opposition to Keto. I just don't freak out if I have 30g of carbs in a day if I have more veggies. I lean more towards the Keto end of the low carb spectrum. My point is that very low carb works for me.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    LeslieMartina wrote: »
    Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
    So just call it low-carb then. Keto is an intentionally (and some would say excessively low) carbohydrate intake, intended specifically to induce ketosis. Low-carb on the other hand, can mean anything below about 150g/day, when you consider that a lot of people eat over 200-400g of it per day.

    Thanks. I know what Keto is. Does it really matter what I call the way I eat? I'm not in opposition to Keto. I just don't freak out if I have 30g of carbs in a day if I have more veggies. I lean more towards the Keto end of the low carb spectrum. My point is that very low carb works for me.

    No, not at all. My statement was aimed at the part of your post where you said you are hesitant to call yourself keto.
  • inezbruce
    inezbruce Posts: 110 Member
    I've lost a 20lbs in 2 months on keto

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