Consume very few cal a day and no significant weight loss
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I am not promoting anything. But try to watch "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" documentary in Youtube. You will definitely loose weight. I already tried it. From 293lbs to 274lbs in 4 weeks. This will really help you.0
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erwingeminie20 wrote: »I am not promoting anything. But try to watch "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" documentary in Youtube. You will definitely loose weight. I already tried it. From 293lbs to 274lbs in 4 weeks. This will really help you.
The last thing this woman needs is more juice.13 -
Thank you for your advice. I really want to buy food scale but I am from a developing country of South East Asia. So not possible to buy it. I usually measure food by spoon or bowl . for no8. here no nutrition specialist doctordiannethegeek wrote: »1. If you aren't already, be sure that you're logging everything. Sometimes people forget about things like veggies, drinks, cooking oils, and condiments. For some people these can add up to enough to halt your weight loss progress.
2. Consider buying a food scale if you don't already have one. They're about $10-$20 dollars in the US and easily found at places like Amazon, Target, and Walmart. Measuring cups and spoons are great, but they do come with some degree of inaccuracy. A food scale will be more accurate, and for some people it makes a big difference.
3. Logging accurately also means choosing accurate entries in the database. There are a lot of user-entered entries that are off. Double-check that you're using good entries and/or using the recipe builder instead of someone else's homemade entries.
4. Recalculate your goals if you haven't lately. As you lose weight your body requires fewer calories to run. Be sure you update your goals every ten pounds or so.
5. If you're eating back your exercise calories and you're relying on gym machine readouts or MFP's estimates, it might be best to eat back just 50-75% of those. Certain activities tend to be overestimated. If you're using an HRM or activity tracker, it might be a good idea to look into their accuracy and be sure that yours is calibrated properly.
6. If you're taking any cheat days that go over your calorie limits, it might be best to cut them out for a few weeks and see what happens. Some people go way over their calorie needs without realizing it when they don't track.
7. If you weigh yourself frequently, consider using a program like trendweight to even out the fluctuations. You could be losing weight but just don't see it because of the daily ups and downs.
8. Some people just burn fewer calories than the calculators predict. If you continue to have problems after 4-6 weeks, then it might be worth a trip to the doctor or a registered dietitian who can give you more specific advice.
OP there is an issue with the food weighing or portioning out.. since you use bowls and spoons you have absolutely no idea how much food you consume.. I bet for sure it is way over 1000 and even over the 1200 calories.
This stuff on here about starvation mode.. ignore it.. this is NOT you (and it is a myth by the way)..2 -
because i want to slim down quick. my friends usually do body shaming on my weight.. I can stop all consume.. I juz want to be slim seriously..cerise_noir wrote: »Why so little calories? That'll make you rather sick eventually.
You don't need to stave and be miserable to lose weight.
Chose to eat more protein (meat, fish, eggs, tofu, dairy) and fats. Actually, try a balance of protein fats and carbs. Fuel your body appropriately. Eat AT LEAST 1200 and eat back 30-50% of your exercise calories back. There is no way you'd be gaining (you won't gain until you go over your own maintenance calories and any gain after upping calories and staying under maintenance is just water weight). I am 5'3.5" @ 170ishlbs and eat 1477 (according to this spreadsheet) to lose around .9lb per week.
Weigh all the food that you eat. That means, weigh each component of a sandwich, salad or recipe. Everything. Use spoons and cups for actual liquids only (no, not for soups, just liquids.) Choose accurate database entries that reflect the nutritional information on the packaging.
You are being given very good advice here, so I won't add to that.
I would like to say though that you are a beautiful young woman, no matter what you weigh, and friends that are shaming you aren't worthy of your time and friendship.7 -
How full do you think you would feel if you sat down and ate:
1 whole egg (50g), 150g of egg white (egg white from about 3 eggs basically), 120g onions, 120g green peppers, 120g mushrooms, 120g carrots, 120g roasted turkey breast meat (or rotisserie chicken meat), all fried in a non stick pan with no more than 5g (a puddle about the size of a thumb that you then spread around the pan) of olive oil
This "breakfast"/lunch.... is just under 550 cal. it also has slightly more than half the protein you need for the day, about 1/3 the fiber you should be eating, a lower sugar count than your glass of fruit juice and some healthy fat while still being low in total cholesterol....0 -
How full do you think you would feel if you sat down and ate:
1 whole egg (50g), 150g of liquid egg white, 120g onions, 120g green peppers, 120g mushrooms, 120g carrots, 120g roasted turkey breast meat (or rotisserie chicken meat), all fried in a non stick pan with no more than 5g of olive oil
This "breakfast"/lunch.... is just under 550 cal. it also has slightly more than half the protein you need for the day, about 1/3 the fiber you should be eating, a lower sugar count than your glass of fruit juice and some healthy fat while still being low in total cholesterol....
She lives in a developing country of South East Asia. In stead of telling her exectly what to eat, why don't we ask her what she likes to eat or has access to in her local grocer..
Yeah she should cut the juice out some, but she can still eat what she enjoys.. She needs a method to use for portioning out these foods she is eating since she cannot buy a food scale.
I am still pondering what I can tell her except bowls and spoons are NOT going to give her close to estimations on calories.. I am almost willing to ship her food a scale my self..0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »erwingeminie20 wrote: »I am not promoting anything. But try to watch "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" documentary in Youtube. You will definitely loose weight. I already tried it. From 293lbs to 274lbs in 4 weeks. This will really help you.
The last thing this woman needs is more juice.
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While this isn't a very accurate method for estimating portions, I think it might be better than bowls and spoons.
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shadow2soul wrote: »While this isn't a very accurate method for estimating portions, I think it might be better than bowls and spoons.
OP.. this is good.. this is next to best thing that you can do!
I also googled this and found these links:
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/calorie-control-guide
http://lifehacker.com/5880630/use-your-hand-to-estimate-your-portions0 -
To lose weight ditch all that fruit you been eating that much you you defeating your goal. You need a Low Carb (Veggies) Good Lean Protein and some good Healthy Fats (Nuts like Almonds and Walnuts and Avocados). You still can have fruit 1-2 serving a day. I been doing this for 6-months and lost 54-pounds.0
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To lose weight ditch all that fruit you been eating that much you you defeating your goal. You need a Low Carb (Veggies) Good Lean Protein and some good Healthy Fats (Nuts like Almonds and Walnuts and Avocados). You still can have fruit 1-2 serving a day. I been doing this for 6-months and lost 54-pounds.
To lose weight, the only thing you *need* is a calorie deficit. Can low carbohydrate vegetables, lean proteins, and fats be a part of that? Absolutely. But you can lose weight on any type of diet that will create a deficit.4 -
You're eating more than you think. So just eat less.2
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because i want to slim down quick. my friends usually do body shaming on my weight.. I can stop all consume.. I juz want to be slim seriously..cerise_noir wrote: »Why so little calories? That'll make you rather sick eventually.
You don't need to stave and be miserable to lose weight.
Chose to eat more protein (meat, fish, eggs, tofu, dairy) and fats. Actually, try a balance of protein fats and carbs. Fuel your body appropriately. Eat AT LEAST 1200 and eat back 30-50% of your exercise calories back. There is no way you'd be gaining (you won't gain until you go over your own maintenance calories and any gain after upping calories and staying under maintenance is just water weight). I am 5'3.5" @ 170ishlbs and eat 1477 (according to this spreadsheet) to lose around .9lb per week.
Weigh all the food that you eat. That means, weigh each component of a sandwich, salad or recipe. Everything. Use spoons and cups for actual liquids only (no, not for soups, just liquids.) Choose accurate database entries that reflect the nutritional information on the packaging.
Your friends are morons. Sorry, but they are. You shouldn't listen to them. If they're making fun of your weight, they make fun of you of you end up with any of the below. Tell them to be quiet or find new friends. You take care of you...don't mind about what others say.
And, what you're doing is only going to HURT you. Do you know what happens when you eat too little calories to lose weight fast?
Here's a list:
Brittle and thinking hair.
Brittle breaking nails.
Sallow dry skin. Possible breakouts
Sickly appearance.
Hormone imbalance.
Losing muscle mass (not good look...and your HEART is a muscle).
Brittle and breaking teeth
Tired/no energy and cranky all the time.
Malnutrition and possible electrolyte imbalance
Foggy brain
Depression and anxiety worsens.
amenorrhea
And much, much more.
I know about this because I ate very little for a while.
I got sick. Now that I am eating properly, I feel much better, but I am still suffering the horrible consequences of low calorie.
Look, I've lost close to 90lbs eating sensibly without low calories diets. It CAN be done without being miserable and sick. You may not fee sick now, but you may very well if you keep eating so little.
You're not even using a food scale or logging correctly. I would honestly start there and weigh all the food that you eat and log everything that you eat for a couple of weeks just to see where your calories are at. If you are truly eating as little as 1000, you would be losing weight, though. What calories does myfitnesspal give you to lose 1lb per week?
UGH....NO!!!!!erwingeminie20 wrote: »I am not promoting anything. But try to watch "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" documentary in Youtube. You will definitely loose weight. I already tried it. From 293lbs to 274lbs in 4 weeks. This will really help you.
Nope. No need. I eat lots of carbs and lose weight.To lose weight ditch all that fruit you been eating that much you you defeating your goal. You need a Low Carb (Veggies) Good Lean Protein and some good Healthy Fats (Nuts like Almonds and Walnuts and Avocados). You still can have fruit 1-2 serving a day. I been doing this for 6-months and lost 54-pounds.
All you need is a calorie deficit.
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Thank you for your advice. I really want to buy food scale but I am from a developing country of South East Asia. So not possible to buy it. I usually measure food by spoon or bowl . for no8. here no nutrition specialist doctordiannethegeek wrote: »1. If you aren't already, be sure that you're logging everything. Sometimes people forget about things like veggies, drinks, cooking oils, and condiments. For some people these can add up to enough to halt your weight loss progress.
2. Consider buying a food scale if you don't already have one. They're about $10-$20 dollars in the US and easily found at places like Amazon, Target, and Walmart. Measuring cups and spoons are great, but they do come with some degree of inaccuracy. A food scale will be more accurate, and for some people it makes a big difference.
3. Logging accurately also means choosing accurate entries in the database. There are a lot of user-entered entries that are off. Double-check that you're using good entries and/or using the recipe builder instead of someone else's homemade entries.
4. Recalculate your goals if you haven't lately. As you lose weight your body requires fewer calories to run. Be sure you update your goals every ten pounds or so.
5. If you're eating back your exercise calories and you're relying on gym machine readouts or MFP's estimates, it might be best to eat back just 50-75% of those. Certain activities tend to be overestimated. If you're using an HRM or activity tracker, it might be a good idea to look into their accuracy and be sure that yours is calibrated properly.
6. If you're taking any cheat days that go over your calorie limits, it might be best to cut them out for a few weeks and see what happens. Some people go way over their calorie needs without realizing it when they don't track.
7. If you weigh yourself frequently, consider using a program like trendweight to even out the fluctuations. You could be losing weight but just don't see it because of the daily ups and downs.
8. Some people just burn fewer calories than the calculators predict. If you continue to have problems after 4-6 weeks, then it might be worth a trip to the doctor or a registered dietitian who can give you more specific advice.
I can see that would be tougher, or at least different than how a lot of us do it.
What is nice... is that you know how much to eat to maintain your weight. You've been doing it for 3 months, after all!
My guess is that your food actually adds up to more than you estimate, but that might be hard for you to get accurate. My suggestion would be to keep eating exactly as you are eating now, but add in 30 - 60 minutes of moderate to high intensity exercise 5 days a week. Hopefully that will help! The key here is to NOT eat back your exercise calories, since your deficit would be coming entirely from exercise.
If you're finding yourself hungry, try adding in more meat for protein, and reducing how much juice or pasta you eat. See if that makes you feel less hungry.
If it were me, I'd stop with the juice all together and eat the fruit whole. That goes along way to making hunger less noticeable.
However... you mentioned also that you could just "stop consuming". That is a very, very dangerous idea. Do not stop eating. Eat about what you eat now plus exercise. Or, eat what you eat now, but switch the juice to plain water.1 -
Thank you for your advice. I really want to buy food scale but I am from a developing country of South East Asia. So not possible to buy it. I usually measure food by spoon or bowl . for no8. here no nutrition specialist doctordiannethegeek wrote: »1. If you aren't already, be sure that you're logging everything. Sometimes people forget about things like veggies, drinks, cooking oils, and condiments. For some people these can add up to enough to halt your weight loss progress.
2. Consider buying a food scale if you don't already have one. They're about $10-$20 dollars in the US and easily found at places like Amazon, Target, and Walmart. Measuring cups and spoons are great, but they do come with some degree of inaccuracy. A food scale will be more accurate, and for some people it makes a big difference.
3. Logging accurately also means choosing accurate entries in the database. There are a lot of user-entered entries that are off. Double-check that you're using good entries and/or using the recipe builder instead of someone else's homemade entries.
4. Recalculate your goals if you haven't lately. As you lose weight your body requires fewer calories to run. Be sure you update your goals every ten pounds or so.
5. If you're eating back your exercise calories and you're relying on gym machine readouts or MFP's estimates, it might be best to eat back just 50-75% of those. Certain activities tend to be overestimated. If you're using an HRM or activity tracker, it might be a good idea to look into their accuracy and be sure that yours is calibrated properly.
6. If you're taking any cheat days that go over your calorie limits, it might be best to cut them out for a few weeks and see what happens. Some people go way over their calorie needs without realizing it when they don't track.
7. If you weigh yourself frequently, consider using a program like trendweight to even out the fluctuations. You could be losing weight but just don't see it because of the daily ups and downs.
8. Some people just burn fewer calories than the calculators predict. If you continue to have problems after 4-6 weeks, then it might be worth a trip to the doctor or a registered dietitian who can give you more specific advice.
I can see that would be tougher, or at least different than how a lot of us do it.
What is nice... is that you know how much to eat to maintain your weight. You've been doing it for 3 months, after all!
My guess is that your food actually adds up to more than you estimate, but that might be hard for you to get accurate. My suggestion would be to keep eating exactly as you are eating now, but add in 30 - 60 minutes of moderate to high intensity exercise 5 days a week. Hopefully that will help! The key here is to NOT eat back your exercise calories, since your deficit would be coming entirely from exercise.
If you're finding yourself hungry, try adding in more meat for protein, and reducing how much juice or pasta you eat. See if that makes you feel less hungry.
If it were me, I'd stop with the juice all together and eat the fruit whole. That goes along way to making hunger less noticeable.
However... you mentioned also that you could just "stop consuming". That is a very, very dangerous idea. Do not stop eating. Eat about what you eat now plus exercise. Or, eat what you eat now, but switch the juice to plain water.
This^^ solid advice!!2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »erwingeminie20 wrote: »I am not promoting anything. But try to watch "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" documentary in Youtube. You will definitely loose weight. I already tried it. From 293lbs to 274lbs in 4 weeks. This will really help you.
The last thing this woman needs is more juice.
This is the 3rd or 4th thread I've read where this has been copied and pasta'd in.0 -
I know the "you're eating more than you think" line is the go-to everyone starts shouting out here on every thread...but seriously..unless this woman is really delusional and lying to us, how can she NOT be eating at a deficit with what she's listed here?? Regardless of tracking and weighing, how can a couple of servings of juice, some noodles and meat and a banana add up to the maintenance calories of a 150 lb woman (which are what, probably in the 1800-2000 range)??!!
There must be something else going on here...unless she's downing like gallons of the juice or something
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nettiklive wrote: »I know the "you're eating more than you think" line is the go-to everyone starts shouting out here on every thread...but seriously..unless this woman is really delusional and lying to us, how can she NOT be eating at a deficit with what she's listed here?? Regardless of tracking and weighing, how can a couple of servings of juice, some noodles and meat and a banana add up to the maintenance calories of a 150 lb woman (which are what, probably in the 1800-2000 range)??!!
There must be something else going on here...unless she's downing like gallons of the juice or something
Each of her self juiced-juices could be 500-600 calories each.. They probably aren't that bad given that she isn't gaining weight, but they could be close. That's why people are suggesting reducing the amount of juice and seeing what happens.
If nothing happens still, then she will need to explore other options.1 -
nettiklive wrote: »I know the "you're eating more than you think" line is the go-to everyone starts shouting out here on every thread...but seriously..unless this woman is really delusional and lying to us, how can she NOT be eating at a deficit with what she's listed here?? Regardless of tracking and weighing, how can a couple of servings of juice, some noodles and meat and a banana add up to the maintenance calories of a 150 lb woman (which are what, probably in the 1800-2000 range)??!!
There must be something else going on here...unless she's downing like gallons of the juice or something
Because it would be physically impossible to not lose weight on so little. If she's truly eating so little some days and she's not losing, she's eating more on other days and not tracking it. And it is very possible the juice she's drinking is very high in calories. Back when i thought juicing stuff was the way to go, I didn't realize i was easily consuming 600-800 in each glass I had, so give or take two glasses would have been my caloric limit for the day.2 -
Fruit smoothies are liquid sugars that get digested quickly leaving you hungry in no time. Sometimes more calorie dense that sugary fizzy drinks. As a diabetic my mum has chocolate, lucosade or orange juice when the wobbles set in.
I have no idea where the OP lives but there's plenty of Asian countries who have a very good diets.
Unfortunately, most of us in the West probably haven't seen half the vegetables you have on offer, but the Internet is there to find out what is high and low in calorie density.
Same for protein, white is usually the best calories wise, so eggs, chicken breast and fish are pretty awesome and fill you for hours. A chicken noodle soup I make is less than 500 calories and a hell of a lot more filling than a cup of fruit juice.1 -
Technically a fruit. Couldn't help myselfChristine_72 wrote: »Hello. I am 28 female, 150 lb(69kg) and 162 cm
So, My daily consume calories must have around 1500 to be the healthy diet , Even though I eat less than 1000 a day for 3 months and my weight is still constant. One more things,I kick out Sugar, sugar content juice and food, oil and fast food..
usually my breakfast is Fresh juice (mango/ papaya) lunch is vermichilli salad and some meat , Dinner, one banana or some juice.. So what's wrong with me , why so hard to reduce weight ??
You say you kicked out sugar and sugar content juice, yet you have juice for breakfast, and choose a high sugar fruit and/or juice again for dinner.
If you were truly eating less than 1000 calories then weight would be falling off of you. Somethings not adding up here.
then, what would be the substitute for juice, I mean fresh juice.. Sometime i bland itself or sometime with fat free milk.. Even lunch ( salad) I eat very few
I was not going to post but...
It sounds to me like you're making yourself miserable eating what you think of as healthy foods (juice, salad, fruit) in small (for you) quantities. Sitting there hungry and wondering what is wrong.
Regardless of whether we consider sugar to be a problem beyond the easy calories it tends to add, fruit juice and fruits are easily accessible sugars and vermicelli is also an easily digested starch that is converted quickly into sugar. Ask most diebetic whether there is any difference in how they react to fruit juice or candy.
Yes, fruits and vegetables are good because they are bulkier foods with lots of fiber and water to make you feel full.
Once juiced you lose that fullness factor and the digestion and absorption process is faster..
Banana is a wonderful fruit. it is also one of the highest calorie fruits (same as avocado is a wonderful veggie... but it sure as heck has more calories than celery).
You really need to sit down and re-think your plan and try to chose foods that are filling you up so that you're not hungry while at the same time lowering the total caloric count that you consume.
It also really does sound like you would benefit from counting your food items in grams and picking verified (green check mark) or USDA entries.
Lastly don't even try to go below 1500 if you are counting absolutely accurately. And look into whether you might be better served by primarily increasing your activity level and strength as opposed to reducing your food.
As for writing down everything.... 1 medium banana vs 113g of banana are two different things
and 1 cup of dry vermicelli vs 71.5g of vermicelli are also different things. And if you are measuring it cooked.... how do you know how much water it has absorbed?
Thyroid function can affect weight loss. That part you do need to talk to a doctor about!
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Find peace with body image issues, I say that not to be mean. But if you don't feel good about the body you have today and make peace with it you will sabotage yourself unknowingly. Also if you have a poor body image now weight loss will not always help that, and you might feel the same after weight loss. If friends body shame you, the easiest way to loose bad weight is to loose those friends, instant "weight loss", keep people who encourage you not shame you.
Do you even need to loose weight? I didn't see your stats as far as height and weight.
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There's a lot of decent advice here around diet (you probably should be eating more) and that it's wrong for your friends to body shame you. You look fine in your profile pic. Try to find something you're going to be able to sustain without making yourself sick/malnourished rather than just focusing on speed.
Another poster mentioned it briefly, but particularly if your goal is to "slim down", you may want to try to focus more on exercise. Calorie deficit is how you lose weight, but exercise (preferably strength exercises) are how you get toned (presumably those poor friends body shaming look more at you than your scale). There are plenty of bodyweight exercises you can do (push-ups, sit-ups, squats, planks) without any equipment. Use a chair to do tricep dips. If you have a kid, young sibling, niece/nephew that's small, do squats and then raise them above your head (they usually think it's fun and you get a great workout). You should also take measurements and not just rely on the scale to show you progress.2
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