The "complete protein" myth

lauraesh0384

lithezebra wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

JeromeBarry1 wrote: »

I know too many centenarians who consumed meat all their lives to think that veganism matters beyond it's value as a religion.

Since I aim for 100 grams of protein every day, meat is high in fat, and fish is expensive, I like some of my protein to come from vegetable sources.

There is plenty of meat that is not high in fat...

I should have specified meat that tastes good is often high in fat. There's always chicken breast or 99% lean ground turkey - yuck. So I get maybe a third of my protein from vegetable sources, for variety, and to have more of my fats be monounsaturated.

Cook it with the right spices and flavors and it's amazing. I love seasoning mine with a southwest chipotle or chicken seasoning. I love eating it with a spicy bbq sauce. Delicious. I eat chicken around 3x a week.

Carlos_421

Christine_72 wrote: »

Don't some people treat their veganism like it's a religion, and every one that doesn't eat this way is going to go to hell. Same can be said about some low carbers, cicophants, vegetarians, IIFYMers etc etc There are many people who see their way as the only way, and do treat it like it is some kind of a religion.

Uh...I think it has more to do with the fact that veganism is based on an ideology more so than simply on a dietary choice. Also that there may be instances where a staunch vegan may want to have a protected status similar to a religion in a case where, say, they get a job and their employer wants to institute a uniform that incorporates leather. Classifying veganism as a religion affords them the right to say "sorry, I can't wear leather. I'm a vegan."

Low carb, IIFYM, and the like are just dietary approaches to health. Keto followers don't have a moral objection to eating carbs like a vegan would have a moral objection to wearing wool.

Christine_72

Carlos_421 wrote: »

Christine_72 wrote: »

Don't some people treat their veganism like it's a religion, and every one that doesn't eat this way is going to go to hell. Same can be said about some low carbers, cicophants, vegetarians, IIFYMers etc etc There are many people who see their way as the only way, and do treat it like it is some kind of a religion.

Uh...I think it has more to do with the fact that veganism is based on an ideology more so than simply on a dietary choice. Also that there may be instances where a staunch vegan may want to have a protected status similar to a religion in a case where, say, they get a job and their employer wants to institute a uniform that incorporates leather. Classifying veganism as a religion affords them the right to say "sorry, I can't wear leather. I'm a vegan."

Low carb, IIFYM, and the like are just dietary approaches to health. Keto followers don't have a moral objection to eating carbs like a vegan would have a moral objection to wearing wool.

Good points

janejellyroll

Christine_72 wrote: »

Don't some people treat their veganism like it's a religion, and every one that doesn't eat this way is going to go to hell. Same can be said about some low carbers, cicophants, vegetarians, IIFYMers etc etc There are many people who see their way as the only way, and do treat it like it is some kind of a religion.

I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I've never heard a vegan claim that non-vegans will go to Hell.

When I question whether veganism is a religion, I'm not saying that some vegans don't take veganism seriously or that some vegans don't go overboard in arguing for veganism. I'm questioning whether it is literally a religion.

If someone said that low carb or IIFYM was a religion, I would question that too because I think "religion" has a specific meaning, one that doesn't apply to an ethical position on animal exploitation or a specific approach to fitness/health.

lithezebra

stevencloser wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

JeromeBarry1 wrote: »

I know too many centenarians who consumed meat all their lives to think that veganism matters beyond it's value as a religion.

Since I aim for 100 grams of protein every day, meat is high in fat, and fish is expensive, I like some of my protein to come from vegetable sources.

There is plenty of meat that is not high in fat...

I should have specified meat that tastes good is often high in fat. There's always chicken breast or 99% lean ground turkey - yuck. So I get maybe a third of my protein from vegetable sources, for variety, and to have more of my fats be monounsaturated.

There's lean cuts of pork and beef.

And they're tasty if you stir fry them in extra fat.