Am I eating too much fat and protein??
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Today starts week 5 for me on LCHF. I have to say I LOVE IT! I have been sugar free for 4 solid weeks, and that is monumental. I had a huge sugar addiction. Now on LCHF, I don't crave any carbs or sugar. It's like a switched has been flicked and I am immune to them. I eat what I want of eggs, meat, cheese, broccoli, and Slim Jims! Slim Jims are like my candy bars. The monster size have 9 grams of carbs. I use MFP to help monitor the daily carbs and keep them around the 20g mark. So far I've lost 12 lbs. I could see staying on this food plan for a very very long time. Good luck to you. I think if you continue to keep carbs at 20g per day, you'll see the weight come off, or at least the inches.2
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justinfarmer919 wrote: »Plus you dont eat more fat to lose fat... That is not how it works. You want your body to burn your fat reserves for fuel. If you over feed it fat the diet is pointless.
I thought fat was what kept us feeling fuller for longer? I thought most of my diet was supposed to be fat and protein ??
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I think that people who do LCHF realize it's still about calories. But one premise behind Keto is that you will be less hungry and eat less. But I think the appetite suppression is an illusion. What happens is that the diet becomes boring, and with the somewhat limited food choices, you get tired of eating the same things over and over. So you eat less of them. This is what happened to me, anyway. But I hope it works for you in the long term.
I have found that I'm not missing the obvious bread and pasta and other high carb foods. In fact my problem giving the carbs up wasn't hard at all.
I just am struggling with understanding this diet haha.
I now know I have been eating too many calories a day. My carbs have always remained low, protein has always been ok or very slightly over but the fat and calories have been over by a lot some days which obviously means I'm eating too much of the naughty stuff such as cream, nuts, and maybe even meats.
I just want to find a happy-medium where the weightless isn't dramatic but I'm losing something each week! So do u still do the diet even thou bored of the foods?
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I did Atkins years ago and ate meat to my hearts content - bacon, pork you name it and I lost a ton of weight BUT I ate only 20 carbs. I have no idea the calorie count but I'm sure it was high because I ate cheese like it was going out of style. This maybe why I'm vegetarian (I do eat tuna) now lol. It worked great for losing but not a sustainable diet for me as soon as I added carbs I gained it back.0
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justinfarmer919 wrote: »Plus you dont eat more fat to lose fat... That is not how it works. You want your body to burn your fat reserves for fuel. If you over feed it fat the diet is pointless.
No, how you are stating it is not how it works. If a person is in a calorie deficit, for weight loss it does not matter what that food they eat is made up of.1 -
bclarke1990 wrote: »Generally most people don't need much fat in their diet. I know some strict "IIFYMers" go for like 80g a day. (Ths is fine if it's working for you). If my goal was weight loss though, I would keep my fats reasonably low. Not because fat makes you fat, but because adding 100 calories of peanut butter to my oatmeal doesn't fill me up as 300g of brussel sprouts with my supper.
I can eat huge amounts of veggies, brussel sprouts includes, and while I may be full for a while, I get hungry again soon after because they simply are not satisfying to me. That is obviously different for you. BTW, I am not LCHF, but I do find fat and protein far more satiating than just veggies.2 -
jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.0 -
jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?
The fact that I'm on a LCHF diet means that I NEED to have plenty of sodium in my diet. I can eat minimally processed food and load it up with salt, and not experience the same effect. So, no, I don't believe it's the sodium.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?
The fact that I'm on a LCHF diet means that I NEED to have plenty of sodium in my diet. I can eat minimally processed food and load it up with salt, and not experience the same effect. So, no, I don't believe it's the sodium.
Why does a low carb diet NEED 'plenty' of sodium?1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?
The fact that I'm on a LCHF diet means that I NEED to have plenty of sodium in my diet. I can eat minimally processed food and load it up with salt, and not experience the same effect. So, no, I don't believe it's the sodium.
Why does a low carb diet NEED 'plenty' of sodium?
Hey, I'm not going to get into a debate with you about LCHF. If you do not know the answer to your question, you might not want to be involved in this thread since the OP specified she is eating LCHF, and therefore her question is specific to LCHF diet. Have a nice day.1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?
The fact that I'm on a LCHF diet means that I NEED to have plenty of sodium in my diet. I can eat minimally processed food and load it up with salt, and not experience the same effect. So, no, I don't believe it's the sodium.
Why does a low carb diet NEED 'plenty' of sodium?
Hey, I'm not going to get into a debate with you about LCHF. If you do not know the answer to your question, you might not want to be involved in this thread since the OP specified she is eating LCHF, and therefore her question is specific to LCHF diet. Have a nice day.
It wasn't a debate, I merely had never heard of needing more sodium when you're low carb so was asking the question, but you obviously have an attitude about it so....0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?
The fact that I'm on a LCHF diet means that I NEED to have plenty of sodium in my diet. I can eat minimally processed food and load it up with salt, and not experience the same effect. So, no, I don't believe it's the sodium.
Why does a low carb diet NEED 'plenty' of sodium?
Hey, I'm not going to get into a debate with you about LCHF. If you do not know the answer to your question, you might not want to be involved in this thread since the OP specified she is eating LCHF, and therefore her question is specific to LCHF diet. Have a nice day.
It wasn't a debate, I merely had never heard of needing more sodium when you're low carb so was asking the question, but you obviously have an attitude about it so....
Been attacked on these forums too many times TavistockToad. And, both of your questions seemed to have a bit of a condescending "attitude" so . . . . Google is your friend. I am not.0 -
@TavistockToad Just in case your question is sincere: LCHF is well-known for its diuretic effect. Carbs cause the body to hang on to more water. Depending on how low the carb intake is, a significant amount of extra sodium (and potassium sometimes) is helpful to combat the orthostasis (low blood pressure causing dizziness) that results.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?
The fact that I'm on a LCHF diet means that I NEED to have plenty of sodium in my diet. I can eat minimally processed food and load it up with salt, and not experience the same effect. So, no, I don't believe it's the sodium.
Why does a low carb diet NEED 'plenty' of sodium?
Hey, I'm not going to get into a debate with you about LCHF. If you do not know the answer to your question, you might not want to be involved in this thread since the OP specified she is eating LCHF, and therefore her question is specific to LCHF diet. Have a nice day.
It wasn't a debate, I merely had never heard of needing more sodium when you're low carb so was asking the question, but you obviously have an attitude about it so....
You do need more sodium on LCHF, at least in the initial stages where you are using up your glycogen stores, which are bound in water. When you lose water weight, sodium goes with it. Many low carb "flu" symptoms are directly related to low levels of sodium, potassium, and/or magnesium. Getting more salt in your diet, and possibly supplementing with potassium and magnesium can help. Once you have been low carb for a decent amount of time, you can back off (at least I was able to). Processed meats are something I only have occasionally as I do find the super high sodium levels cause water retention. Salting my food doesn't cause this, and even eating foods that have somewhat high sodium (think roasted nuts or cheese) doesn't pose a problem. But hot dogs, kielbasa, bacon, and other cured/smoked meats? Yeah, the ultra high sodium levels will cause water weight gain. Heck, even just dining out and sticking with low carb - restaraunt food tends to be ultra high in sodium and I gain a couple lbs over night. Don't get me wrong, I don't go out of my way to keep sodium low, and probably get a bit more than I used to, but once I was done dropping water wieght I found I didn't need to actively seek out salt, and having a wicked high sodium meal does cause water retention. HTH!
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KetoneKaren wrote: »@TavistockToad Just in case your question is sincere: LCHF is well-known for its diuretic effect. Carbs cause the body to hang on to more water. Depending on how low the carb intake is, a significant amount of extra sodium (and potassium sometimes) is helpful to combat the orthostasis (low blood pressure causing dizziness) that results.
It was, thanks.
I don't low carb but that doesn't mean I don't want to learn more. Every days a school day!0 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jameela798 wrote: »Oh hey, one other thing. I'm also on LCHF, and I spent 2 or 3 weeks fluctuating up and down the same 3 or 4 pounds (even though I was eating under my calorie goals). I finally picked up a tip from a Keto group and figured out that I had to ditch the nitrates/nitrites. I was eating a lot of processed meat (like beef hot dogs, turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, etc.) Once I stopped that, I have been steadily losing. I still have days where I end up eating a lot more protein than I planned, but I am still losing weight.
So do you not eat any process meat anymore?? I eat a lot of pepperoni and bacon! Do you think I should avoid these on a daily basis then cause of the nitrates in them?
I can't say I NEVER eat it anymore. It's just too convenient. But, I am trying to limit it a lot or eliminate it altogether. I was eating a lot of turkey pepperoni, turkey bacon, and hot dogs (because summer, kids, and cooking out a lot). When I stopped eating those things for a week, my weight began to drop again. This week, I did eat hot dogs a couple of times, and my weight spiked up immediately.
And you don't think the sodium in processed meat has anything to do with that?
The fact that I'm on a LCHF diet means that I NEED to have plenty of sodium in my diet. I can eat minimally processed food and load it up with salt, and not experience the same effect. So, no, I don't believe it's the sodium.
Why does a low carb diet NEED 'plenty' of sodium?
Hey, I'm not going to get into a debate with you about LCHF. If you do not know the answer to your question, you might not want to be involved in this thread since the OP specified she is eating LCHF, and therefore her question is specific to LCHF diet. Have a nice day.
It wasn't a debate, I merely had never heard of needing more sodium when you're low carb so was asking the question, but you obviously have an attitude about it so....
You do need more sodium on LCHF, at least in the initial stages where you are using up your glycogen stores, which are bound in water. When you lose water weight, sodium goes with it. Many low carb "flu" symptoms are directly related to low levels of sodium, potassium, and/or magnesium. Getting more salt in your diet, and possibly supplementing with potassium and magnesium can help. Once you have been low carb for a decent amount of time, you can back off (at least I was able to). Processed meats are something I only have occasionally as I do find the super high sodium levels cause water retention. Salting my food doesn't cause this, and even eating foods that have somewhat high sodium (think roasted nuts or cheese) doesn't pose a problem. But hot dogs, kielbasa, bacon, and other cured/smoked meats? Yeah, the ultra high sodium levels will cause water weight gain. Heck, even just dining out and sticking with low carb - restaraunt food tends to be ultra high in sodium and I gain a couple lbs over night. Don't get me wrong, I don't go out of my way to keep sodium low, and probably get a bit more than I used to, but once I was done dropping water wieght I found I didn't need to actively seek out salt, and having a wicked high sodium meal does cause water retention. HTH!
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