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SaliDale
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Just signed up for this app and it is telling me I need to eat 189 grams of protein per day. This is wayyyyyy toooooo much protein. Wondering how accurate this app is?
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How much do you weigh?0
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I took my weight. 185lbs minus my percentage of body weight. Guessed at 20%. 1/2 gram per lean body mass in pounds I come up with 74 grams.0
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Lean body weight that is.0
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Recommended is somewhere from 1g-1.4g protein per pound body weight if you are exercising3
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thanhluu1226 wrote: »Recommended is somewhere from 1g-1.4g protein per pound body weight if you are exercising
Actually 1/2 pound per lean body mass. More if you're exercising.0 -
thanhluu1226 wrote: »Recommended is somewhere from 1g-1.4g protein per pound body weight if you are exercising
Actually 1/2 pound per lean body mass. More if you're exercising.
If you're trying to improve your body composition then target 0.8 grams per pound of overall body weight or 1 gram per pound of lean body mass, and get yourself on a progressive overload strength program such as a 5x5.3 -
It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.0
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Redwineandmuscles wrote: »It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.
As for naturopaths see below.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html
ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:
"Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.
http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7
More on protein intake (from 2015):
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-05490 -
Just signed up for this app and it is telling me I need to eat 189 grams of protein per day. This is wayyyyyy toooooo much protein. Wondering how accurate this app is?
Also, to get down to another issue you're raising, MFP doesn't calculate protein intake based on the specific number of grams per pound of body weight, lean mass, or even goal weight. It uses a percentage system so that you get a certain percentage of your calories from each of protein, fats, and carbohydrates. In other words, it's shorthand. You can customize your goals and would suggest you do so. That said, as you add exercise (and thereby exercise calories) your target protein, fats, and carbohydrates also increase. You should be getting sufficient protein and fats based on body weight or lean mass and any excess calories from exercise can simply go to carbs, but there's nothing wrong with extra fat or protein.1 -
No that doesn't sound right0
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As a 205 pound male that exercises and is looking to maintain as muscle mass as possible as I age, I aim for 30% of my calories from protein. The USDA, Harvard Med School, etc recommend protein should make up 10-35% of daily calories:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/protein/
I typically eat around 2700 calories a day so doing the math 30% of calories from protein would give 203 grams of protein, or pretty much 1 gram per pound of bodyweight.
I noted the op is a 49 year old man. .5g per pound would, in most cases put him at the lower end of the recommended range. Not where I would think most people who want to maintain/build muscle mass should be.0 -
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I find that the larger my caloric deficit the higher I want my protein intake to be as well as my workout volume.
Doing everything I can so that the weight I do lose does not come from broken down muscle tissue.
And it worked well for me, consistently tracking with a body composition scale from InBody I lost 15lbs of bodyfat and less than a quarter pound of muscle throughout my cut eating between 185-210g a protein a day.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Redwineandmuscles wrote: »It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.
As for naturopaths see below.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html
ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:
"Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.
http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7
More on protein intake (from 2015):
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Redwineandmuscles wrote: »It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.
As for naturopaths see below.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html
ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:
"Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.
http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7
More on protein intake (from 2015):
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.
The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.1 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Redwineandmuscles wrote: »It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.
As for naturopaths see below.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html
ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:
"Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.
http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7
More on protein intake (from 2015):
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.
The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.
I'm not getting in a passing match bud. No need to be defensive over one study.im sure as you know there is on going debates back and forth. I agree the general public can benefit from more than the "minimum" requirements as they're the "minimum".0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Redwineandmuscles wrote: »It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.
As for naturopaths see below.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html
ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:
"Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.
http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7
More on protein intake (from 2015):
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.
The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.
I'm not getting in a passing match bud. No need to be defensive over one study.im sure as you know there is on going debates back and forth. I agree the general public can benefit from more than the "minimum" requirements as they're the "minimum".
It's not a p match, and there's more than one study. No worries if you don't enjoy discussing the issue but seems silly given where you are posting.1 -
Great articles sunny beaches. I stopped seeing my naturopath when she decided that b12 shots would help with my fatigue, (even though I'm not deficient and we both knew my iron was low). When I said that the shots weren't helping, she suggested more shots. I'm not going back to her, but it was nice to feel like I can relax a bit on the protein from time to time.1
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sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Redwineandmuscles wrote: »It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.
As for naturopaths see below.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html
ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:
"Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.
http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7
More on protein intake (from 2015):
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.
The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.
I'm not getting in a passing match bud. No need to be defensive over one study.im sure as you know there is on going debates back and forth. I agree the general public can benefit from more than the "minimum" requirements as they're the "minimum".
It's not a p match, and there's more than one study. No worries if you don't enjoy discussing the issue but seems silly given where you are posting.
No not at all I got the wrong impression purely here to try and help if I can. My appologies my man
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sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Redwineandmuscles wrote: »It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.
As for naturopaths see below.
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html
ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:
"Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.
http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7
More on protein intake (from 2015):
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.
The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.
In addition to the studies, do a little research and you will find high level athletes will generally be consuming protein at the gram per bodyweight level or above. I'm by no means a top level athlete but I am able to look at what they do and emulate their practices where applicable in my diet and training.1
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