Eating Clean - No Such Thing

magerum

when was the last anyone saw an obese person who eats clean?

Vegan doesn't necessarily = clean

I'll just pretend you have a sense of humor.

Seefylol

when was the last anyone saw an obese person who eats clean?

Obese people are obese because they are eating above their daily calorie intake. Not because of what they eat. Seriously..... I give up.

i know this. its harder to go over ur cals when eating clean foods. u dont need so much self control. but when eating bonbons and poptarts its hard to stop.

I see we've never met. I was an overweight teen eating home cooked more or less clean foods. My mom made all of her good from scratch, starting with the most basic of ingredients.

And then I ate it all. And then I was 15 and 200+ pounds and had no idea how I got there, because I wasn't even really allowed to eat processed stuff, which is what I'd always heard made people get fat. Surly I didn't get fat eating carrot sticks and homemade chicken stew! ...except that is exactly what happened.

And then I started eating less, my mom loosened up and let me become a brownie a day eater, and I lost all kinds of weight. Then I got married and started eating like a man and put a bit back on, and now I'm losing again (While still being a brownie and ice cream everyday eater.)

BostonStrong617

I really don't care if you eat clean or "dirty' personally I have at least two donuts a week, normally have some sort of fast food lunch once a week & eat chocolate like a 7 year old locked in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. I also turn to frozen meals and drink Diet Coke like it's life sustaining.
The issue I have is that some clean eaters have this holier than thou attitude and think the way they eat makes them better than others. Honestly I think life would be pretty damn miserable without my "non clean" foods. I don't have the luxury of having extra time or money to prepare foods with organic ingredients and high quality fresh ingredients. I'd much rather spend the free time I have at the gym or on a long run.
I eat pretty much whatever I want, but I also wake up every morning before work a 5 AM (except for Friday) to run 5-8 miles and I do a long run of 10 to 13 miles every Saturday. I have low body fat, perfect blood pressure, perfect chorestoral (but horrible spelling lol) and am in great health. It only takes a couple glances are my diary to see I don't eat clean and yet I am probably in better shape than some people who DO eat clean and still over eat.
I agree it's not about clean eating or cutting out carbs or cutting out fat its always eating a balanced, portioned diet and exercising. But if you wanna eat clean, and that's important to you then go ahead. Just don't go around ac6ing like you're so much better than everyone else because you won't touch a Big Mac with a 10 Foot Pole.

Seefylol

I really don't care if you eat clean or "dirty' personally I have at least two donuts a week, normally have some sort of fast food lunch once a week & eat chocolate like a 7 year old locked in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. I also turn to frozen meals and drink Diet Coke like it's life sustaining.
The issue I have is that some clean eaters have this holier than thou attitude and think the way they eat makes them better than others. Honestly I think life would be pretty damn miserable without my "non clean" foods. I don't have the luxury of having extra time or money to prepare foods with organic ingredients and high quality fresh ingredients. I'd much rather spend the free time I have at the gym or on a long run.
I eat pretty much whatever I want, but I also wake up every morning before work a 5 AM (except for Friday) to run 5-8 miles and I do a long run of 10 to 13 miles every Saturday. I have low body fat, perfect blood pressure, perfect chorestoral (but horrible spelling lol) and am in great health. It only takes a couple glances are my diary to see I don't eat clean and yet I am probably in better shape than some people who DO eat clean and still over eat.
I agree it's not about clean eating or cutting out carbs or cutting out fat its always eating a balanced, portioned diet and exercising. But if you wanna eat clean, and that's important to you then go ahead. Just don't go around ac6ing like you're so much better than everyone else because you won't touch a Big Mac with a 10 Foot Pole.

I'm in love.

hookilau

I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.

exactly.

What they said...

Agreed.
Gifs please.
Edited for derrr

bspikes86

I am learning exactly what you said and in fact I lose more weight having ice cream once a day because I don't feel deprived and binge later on. but I make sure I eat on my fruits and veggies and protein and I do feel better and less tired. if i ate to my calorie goal by eating junk with no nutritional value I would feel tired and lethargic. Weight loss is a balancing act

Hexahedra

Eating 'clean' makes no difference when you want to lose weight, but it does when you're trying to gain without adding too much fat. Few people on MFP are looking to gain weight.

No it doesn't. I didn't eat 'clean' during my bulk. I didn't gain very much fat.

Personally I don't care about eating clean (and probably never will), but my wife normally does. I can tell the difference the few times she stopped eating clean. She's at competition-level bodybuilding though, her fat level is low enough that a little too much carb shows up pretty quick.

myofibril

Thanks.

I had no idea.

My0WNinspiration

There are different routes to the same destination.

DavidHusky

I really don't care if you eat clean or "dirty' personally I have at least two donuts a week, normally have some sort of fast food lunch once a week & eat chocolate like a 7 year old locked in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. I also turn to frozen meals and drink Diet Coke like it's life sustaining.
The issue I have is that some clean eaters have this holier than thou attitude and think the way they eat makes them better than others. Honestly I think life would be pretty damn miserable without my "non clean" foods. I don't have the luxury of having extra time or money to prepare foods with organic ingredients and high quality fresh ingredients. I'd much rather spend the free time I have at the gym or on a long run.
I eat pretty much whatever I want, but I also wake up every morning before work a 5 AM (except for Friday) to run 5-8 miles and I do a long run of 10 to 13 miles every Saturday. I have low body fat, perfect blood pressure, perfect chorestoral (but horrible spelling lol) and am in great health. It only takes a couple glances are my diary to see I don't eat clean and yet I am probably in better shape than some people who DO eat clean and still over eat.
I agree it's not about clean eating or cutting out carbs or cutting out fat its always eating a balanced, portioned diet and exercising. But if you wanna eat clean, and that's important to you then go ahead. Just don't go around ac6ing like you're so much better than everyone else because you won't touch a Big Mac with a 10 Foot Pole.

Do you have a fan club I can join? Well put...

AJ_G

I wish people would stop caring who calls what clean or unclean. Everyone has an opinion (yours is one as well) and it doesn't change anything.

exactly.

What they said...

Agreed.
Gifs please.
Edited for derrr

I like to eat things that are tasty

penrbrown

I eat dirty.

As in... if it didn't come from the dirt I don't eat it...

HAHAHA

Kidding.

MyM0wM0w

Some people are concerned about more than fat loss, such as cholesterol and blood sugar levels, etc. Eating crap food at a deficit will indeed cause weight loss but it doesn't necessarily equal physical health.

Thank you.

liftingheavy1

I really don't care if you eat clean or "dirty' personally I have at least two donuts a week, normally have some sort of fast food lunch once a week & eat chocolate like a 7 year old locked in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. I also turn to frozen meals and drink Diet Coke like it's life sustaining.
The issue I have is that some clean eaters have this holier than thou attitude and think the way they eat makes them better than others. Honestly I think life would be pretty damn miserable without my "non clean" foods. I don't have the luxury of having extra time or money to prepare foods with organic ingredients and high quality fresh ingredients. I'd much rather spend the free time I have at the gym or on a long run.
I eat pretty much whatever I want, but I also wake up every morning before work a 5 AM (except for Friday) to run 5-8 miles and I do a long run of 10 to 13 miles every Saturday. I have low body fat, perfect blood pressure, perfect chorestoral (but horrible spelling lol) and am in great health. It only takes a couple glances are my diary to see I don't eat clean and yet I am probably in better shape than some people who DO eat clean and still over eat.
I agree it's not about clean eating or cutting out carbs or cutting out fat its always eating a balanced, portioned diet and exercising. But if you wanna eat clean, and that's important to you then go ahead. Just don't go around ac6ing like you're so much better than everyone else because you won't touch a Big Mac with a 10 Foot Pole.

ok good for you, now come down from your Ivory Tower and grace us with your presence.

zacherybinx

Some people are concerned about more than fat loss, such as cholesterol and blood sugar levels, etc. Eating crap food at a deficit will indeed cause weight loss but it doesn't necessarily equal physical health.

^This. And as others have said the only goal for a lot of people isn't just weight loss but health. I would say the majority of the people in the World who think they're "healthy" would be surprised if they could see their insides.

j724mecham

Still waiting for jonnythan to show up in this thread haha

*shivers* Please God - NO

AJ_G

Still waiting for jonnythan to show up in this thread haha

*shivers* Please God - NO

Unlike you, I was actually hoping he'd show up, and he already did if you'd read back.

Snicklefritz81

Some people are concerned about more than fat loss, such as cholesterol and blood sugar levels, etc. Eating crap food at a deficit will indeed cause weight loss but it doesn't necessarily equal physical health.

this!

jpalocy77

Granted..I think eating clean is all in the eye of the beholder.. I try to eat whole grains more than I used too..more vegetables, more fruits and more protein packed food than I ever did in the past. That doesn't mean i dont enjoy a brownie from a package..and ice cream every few days! The only reason why I incorporate those "clean" food is to allow me to not going over my calories for the day and be starving!!I think those foods are definitely full of more "filling" vitamins than a candybar all day.. I know for me personally.. if I eat ONE brownie I want 12... just remember...this is a life changing thing..not a DIET... no one can eat clean 24/7..its impossible.. lol...

Ang108

To the OP:
In my book eating clean/healthy/mostly natural has very little to do with weight loss ( and therefore the " staying within your macros " is BS imo when it comes to processed & junkfood ) and has everything to do with general health.
You might be fine now, but lets meet again in 20 years, or when you are supposed to enjoy your deserved retirement and can't.

Kifissia

Read 'Salt, Sugar, Fat' by Michael Moss.

AJ_G

Some people are concerned about more than fat loss, such as cholesterol and blood sugar levels, etc. Eating crap food at a deficit will indeed cause weight loss but it doesn't necessarily equal physical health.

this!

You people have such little understanding of science based nutrition, I'm in awe...

Achrya

Some people are concerned about more than fat loss, such as cholesterol and blood sugar levels, etc. Eating crap food at a deficit will indeed cause weight loss but it doesn't necessarily equal physical health.

this!

My blood sugar is normal, my cholesterol is normal, my blood pressure actually skews a little low, and my doctors considers me incredibly healthy. I am losing weight but mostly because my pants wouldn't fit anymore, and that's a bad look.

I doubt a bowl of ice cream at the end of the night is gonna screw that up.

jonnythan

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1027933-look-what-fast-food-ice-cream-have-done-to-my-cholesterol?show=search

I'll just leave this here for the "you can eat dirty and lose weight but you'll destroy your body" people.

magerum

Some people are concerned about more than fat loss, such as cholesterol and blood sugar levels, etc. Eating crap food at a deficit will indeed cause weight loss but it doesn't necessarily equal physical health.

this!

Absolutely not this. My panels are perfect. Total cholesterol of 98 (kinda' low actually), A1 level of 3.7. I reject that completely.

AJ_G

To the OP:
In my book eating clean/healthy/mostly natural has very little to do with weight loss ( and therefore the " staying within your macros " is BS imo when it comes to processed & junkfood ) and has everything to do with general health.
You might be fine now, but lets meet again in 20 years, or when you are supposed to enjoy your deserved retirement and can't.

Please read some relevant scientific studies and do not derive your information on nutrition from some book you read that may be completely inaccurate...

VeinsAndBones

I'd like to clear this up once and for all. Lately, the forums have been plagued with people claiming that they are "eating clean" and it's getting quite annoying.

There is no such thing as “clean" food.

There is no such thing as “dirty" food.

You can eat processed foods. You can eat chocolate, poptarts, hotdogs, drink soda. Go ahead and even have a nice big juicey burger from McDonalds if you wish!

The key is to fit it in to your macronutrients. Make food work for you instead of cowering in fear like the mass majority. You can still enjoy the foods you love. Yes it’s in moderation. You can still even lose fat, eat at a caloric deficit, gain muscle mass and eat poptarts. I promise.

I wish everyone would stop the fear mongering with carbs, processed foods and paleo bullcrap.

FOODS LIKE THESE DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT. OVER EATING THEM DOES.

Thank you.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you over eat junk I would only assume that would be like putting crude oil in a Maybach, over time your beautiful piece of engineering is not gonna sound so nice. But thank god I'm not German, or an automobile >:D

maundrelle

I'd like to clear this up once and for all. Lately, the forums have been plagued with people claiming that they are "eating clean" and it's getting quite annoying.

There is no such thing as “clean" food.

There is no such thing as “dirty" food.

You can eat processed foods. You can eat chocolate, poptarts, hotdogs, drink soda. Go ahead and even have a nice big juicey burger from McDonalds if you wish!

bump!
i so love this message.
life is for living

The key is to fit it in to your macronutrients. Make food work for you instead of cowering in fear like the mass majority. You can still enjoy the foods you love. Yes it’s in moderation. You can still even lose fat, eat at a caloric deficit, gain muscle mass and eat poptarts. I promise.

I wish everyone would stop the fear mongering with carbs, processed foods and paleo bullcrap.

FOODS LIKE THESE DO NOT MAKE YOU FAT. OVER EATING THEM DOES.

Thank you.

magerum

Read 'Salt, Sugar, Fat' by Michael Moss.

Wouldn't waste my time on that propaganda

Joreanasaurous

Whenever I eat junk food like poptarts or In and Out I spend the rest of the day in the bathroom miserable. So I tend to eat clean or whatever you all call it. It has nothing to do with weight loss. I just don't like spending my days with an upset stomach.