More plateau advice
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That's a great idea. People need to think of their holistic calorie count. It's not like your body simply starts fresh every day. Look at your eating over a longer period of time.1
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A couple questions:
1. How soon after you work out do you refuel ?
2. What do you refuel with?
3. Have you tried high intensity interval training (HIIT) as part of your workout regime?
4. How soon after your last meal do you go to bed?
Part of the solution MAY lie in the timing of your meals relative to exercise. The other part may lie in the fact that your body has acclimated to regular workout routines and needs to be shocked by high intensity interval training (HIIT)0 -
Open diary would get more help than just the typical general advice that you've already gotten.4
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Think you need a diet break. Every time I take one, I lose more weight afterward.
http://rippedbody.jp/diet-break/3 -
arditarose wrote: »I think you might have to lower your calories, unfortunately
It's worth a shot again, I guess! Thank you.
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Unless you have celiac disease there is no reason to eliminate gluten. Gluten free foods still have as many calories as the foods you would substitute them for. If someone has eliminated gluten and lost weight it is because of a calorie deficit and nothing else.
Lol, thank you. Guess that's out then. 0 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Go back over the last 30 days in your Reports. Accumulate your total calorie deficit. If your monthly calorie deficit recorded with as much accuracy as you claim is less than 10000 calories, I will assert that you likely are experiencing water retention for any of the plethora of reasons that afflict women. If your monthly deficit totals up to 20,000 or more, I'm flummoxed.
Good tip - thank you. Will try this!0 -
You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.5
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What RunRutheeRun said.
If you haven't lost any weight in months, nor gained it, then you are eating at maintenance. The calories you take in through food are the same as the calories you are expending through being alive, daily activity and exercising.
Now it may be that this seems unfair, that you feel you are not eating enough for it to be maintenance - but this does seem to be the case from what you are saying. And it may be that there is a medical reason for it or that you are one of the few who does have a slow metabolism, or another condition that means you have a very efficient body that does not need much food.
But even if that is so (and it may be), how would that impact you? Are you willing to increase your deficit more to lose more weight?
I agree. That's certainly what it seems like. I just don't know why or what to adjust to fix it given that I've already made so many adjustments. The reason I went through a nutritionist is because when I use weight loss calculators, the calories it tells me I need to be eating is obscene - anywhere from 2,000-3,000/day depending on what I enter as my goal weight. If I ate 3,000 calories a day, I'm pretty sure I'd blow up like a balloon, especially considering I am eating less than half that right now and not losing anything at all. How do I make good calls to these changes without using a weight loss calculator? Any tips?
It's just a matter of decreasing even more than advised. I'm of course willing to increase my deficit if that is what it takes.0 -
Raptor2763 wrote: »A couple questions:
1. How soon after you work out do you refuel ?
2. What do you refuel with?
3. Have you tried high intensity interval training (HIIT) as part of your workout regime?
4. How soon after your last meal do you go to bed?
Part of the solution MAY lie in the timing of your meals relative to exercise. The other part may lie in the fact that your body has acclimated to regular workout routines and needs to be shocked by high intensity interval training (HIIT)
1. & 2. I eat dinner about an hour or so after my workouts. Usually consists of chicken (or other form of protein like beans or eggs - I do not eat red meat) or sometimes shrimp, vegetables/salad and sometimes a carb/starch like brown rice, sweet/russet potato, etc. On the days I workout I try not to have vegetarian meals because I know I need the heavier protein (while not exceeding my carbs).
3. I have, but I can only do low impact at the moment. I find it really fun but very difficult to find low impact HIIT. I have a few that are mixed into my cardio programs.
4. About 4 hours after my last meal.0 -
Think you need a diet break. Every time I take one, I lose more weight afterward.
http://rippedbody.jp/diet-break/
Thank you for this tip!0 -
Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:2 -
Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary. And it's not because I am omitting information but to me it's a very private thing because I also write notes that I just am not comfortable with the general public seeing. On top of that, people on here can be very critical and I'm not looking to be attacked. I'm sorry. I get what you're saying and I understand it can be helpful.
I understand the statement about the deficit for my body but that's why I am here then... to ask how I might do that (with perhaps more info than just "cut calories").1 -
Was just reading an article on MSN and here's a snippet on plateaus:
"First, you were losing weight like crazy. Now? The scale won’t budge! “What you need to do is give yourself a couple of days of rest and bump up your calories by 10 percent. When you lose weight quickly, your body often responds by releasing hormones to increase your appetite and store more fat. That's a survival instinct meant to help us conserve fuel during times of famine. You can outsmart it by eating a little more and resting. That usually helps jump-start your metabolism again,” explains Jillian <Michaels>. A weight loss plan that involves eating more? We’re totally on board with that!"
No idea if the science behind the statement is true, but thought I'd throw it out there. This was part of "30 Weight Loss Tips from Jillian Michaels" http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/weightloss/30-weight-loss-tips-from-jillian-michaels/ss-BBuyLTh?li=BBnba9O
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TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.2 -
carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
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TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
This.2 -
carnivalnights wrote: »How did you adjust your macros? I would up protein significantly, cut out any foods that could lead to inflammation to see if they have that effect on you (I cut out dairy, gluten, added sugar - I also cut out most packaged foods because I'm allergic to a preservative in many of them). And weight train. I'm down about 80 pounds depending on the day.
I was told by my nutritionist to decrease carbs and up protein, but that didn't seem to help. I have done that for about a month or so with no difference in loss. Because I don't eat red meat, I actually can't cut out something like dairy because it's where I get a lot of my protein (eggs, yogurt, etc.) but thank you for the tip. I could try gluten! You never know. I don't eat any packaged foods either. Congrats on your 80!
Weight loss is never about food type but about eating at a calorie deficit. Cutting out gluten, or any other food type, is not the answer to weight loss. Eating less calories is.
You said you've been to the doctor and have discovered no medical issues. You need to figure out where your error is.
If you open your diary others can provide more specific advice.6 -
Raptor2763 wrote: »A couple questions:
1. How soon after you work out do you refuel ?
2. What do you refuel with?
3. Have you tried high intensity interval training (HIIT) as part of your workout regime?
4. How soon after your last meal do you go to bed?
Part of the solution MAY lie in the timing of your meals relative to exercise. The other part may lie in the fact that your body has acclimated to regular workout routines and needs to be shocked by high intensity interval training (HIIT)
Timing and exercise have nothing to do with weight loss, and there is no reason to shock your body.8 -
Was just reading an article on MSN and here's a snippet on plateaus:
"First, you were losing weight like crazy. Now? The scale won’t budge! “What you need to do is give yourself a couple of days of rest and bump up your calories by 10 percent. When you lose weight quickly, your body often responds by releasing hormones to increase your appetite and store more fat. That's a survival instinct meant to help us conserve fuel during times of famine. You can outsmart it by eating a little more and resting. That usually helps jump-start your metabolism again,” explains Jillian <Michaels>. A weight loss plan that involves eating more? We’re totally on board with that!"
No idea if the science behind the statement is true, but thought I'd throw it out there. This was part of "30 Weight Loss Tips from Jillian Michaels" http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/weightloss/30-weight-loss-tips-from-jillian-michaels/ss-BBuyLTh?li=BBnba9O
Interesting info. A couple other people have said similar things. It is perhaps worth a try even though the word "more" scares me when it comes to calories, haha. My nutritionist gave me some ideas to jump start my system (working out more times per week, drastically changing the type of workout, etc.) but I have not tried this one. Thank you for the article. 0 -
DetroitDarin wrote: »Consider eliminating anything that's 'cheat foods'. Eat for the body and lifestyle you want to maintain.
Have you been to a doctor to check-see if other things are going on?
I only have take-out once a week, a dinner with my father. And it's nothing extreme. Something like Swiss Chalet (rotisserie chicken place here in Canada). I agree with your statement though.
Yes. I went specifically about this and got all my regular blood work, like thyroid, and also had my testosterone tested which was fine too. I don't believe it is anything medical. Or at least nothing that is showing up in blood work...0 -
carnivalnights wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary. And it's not because I am omitting information but to me it's a very private thing because I also write notes that I just am not comfortable with the general public seeing. On top of that, people on here can be very critical and I'm not looking to be attacked. I'm sorry. I get what you're saying and I understand it can be helpful.
I understand the statement about the deficit for my body but that's why I am here then... to ask how I might do that (with perhaps more info than just "cut calories").
That's understandable, but know this; the only useful advice you can be given from this point forward is exactly what you said you wanted more than which is to cut calories. It's not your carbs, fat, or protein, it's your calorie amount. A five to six month stall is eating at maintenance and cutting calories is what is needed. Either that or cut the cheat meal out. Depending on what you are ordering out, that one cheat meal could easily be 2000+ calories.5 -
Was just reading an article on MSN and here's a snippet on plateaus:
"First, you were losing weight like crazy. Now? The scale won’t budge! “What you need to do is give yourself a couple of days of rest and bump up your calories by 10 percent. When you lose weight quickly, your body often responds by releasing hormones to increase your appetite and store more fat. That's a survival instinct meant to help us conserve fuel during times of famine. You can outsmart it by eating a little more and resting. That usually helps jump-start your metabolism again,” explains Jillian <Michaels>. A weight loss plan that involves eating more? We’re totally on board with that!"
No idea if the science behind the statement is true, but thought I'd throw it out there. This was part of "30 Weight Loss Tips from Jillian Michaels" http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/weightloss/30-weight-loss-tips-from-jillian-michaels/ss-BBuyLTh?li=BBnba9O
This is poor advice. You can't outsmart your body, and there is no jump-starting weight loss.
Jillian Michaels is out to sell her product, which pretty much means she does not know what she's talking about.
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TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
Totally in agreement with this. After reading everything about this case, the only option is to look at the diary entries.
edited add: I do understand that you do not want to do this, but its only a few minutes (you can give a window of say 15 - 20 minutes for it to be open and then close it) for some experts to view things that can probably be pointed out in a matter of minutes and possibly solve this puzzle for you.1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
I understand and that's fine. Never said it was bad advice.0 -
carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
I understand and that's fine. Never said it was bad advice.
you said it wasn't helpful advice... it really is!1 -
carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
I understand and that's fine. Never said it was bad advice.
well you sort of said it was NOT helpful advice.. It's great and helpful advice because a problem can be solved quickly instead of grasping at straws for clues and ideas on how to solve a very very very long plataue!0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
I understand and that's fine. Never said it was bad advice.
you said it wasn't helpful advice... it really is!
In the past when I used MFP to log food (I use a different app now), I was afraid to open my diary because I thought I would be criticized for the type of food I ate. When I opened my diary, nobody cared about food type but pointed out errors in my logging. I followed the advice, which were logging errors (underestimating calories) and got back on track. 4 -
TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »carnivalnights wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »You keep responding to posts, but specifically ignoring the ones asking if you'd be willing to open your diary for more tailored advice. In my opinion that screams information is being omitted. If you don't want to open it up, the least you could do is say you don't want to do so. In any case, you're eating at a deficit on paper, but not for your body, as stated earlier in the thread.
and there was me thinking i was invisible!!! :flowerforyou:
As stated, I will edit my post to state I am not opening my diary but to me, "Open your diary" is not helpful advice. In fact, it's more like a command. I'm not comfortable with it and it has nothing to do with what I am eating. I keep private notes in there and am just not comfortable having it open to the public. To me it's like an actual diary. It's not a big deal. No need to scrutinize.
asking you to open your diary is very good advice, because its the best way for people to be able to help you based on what you're consuming....
if you don't want to, that's fine, but people are limited in what they can offer as suggestions without that information.
I understand and that's fine. Never said it was bad advice.
you said it wasn't helpful advice... it really is!
In the past when I used MFP to log food (I use a different app now), I was afraid to open my diary because I thought I would be criticized for the type of food I ate. When I opened my diary, nobody cared about food type but pointed out errors in my logging. I followed the advice, which were logging errors (underestimating calories) and got back on track.
My diary is closed like this too. But I would open it in a heart beat after being sooooo many months in a stall, I would probably be bald by now tearing out my own hair.. 0 -
What is your exercise plan specifically?
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