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walterls
walterls Posts: 8 Member
hi- I just started a week ago and I am hungry. I have around 90 lbs to lose- how long before your stomach adjusted to the new calorie counts? I am eating around 1470 a day and trying to eat nutrient dense as much as possible.
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  • STEVE142142
    STEVE142142 Posts: 867 Member
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    It would be helpful if you listed some of your stats so people can give you some input. Without knowing your weight I can't comment on if your calories are enough.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    How much fat, protein and fibre are you getting?
  • Troutsy
    Troutsy Posts: 275 Member
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    Your diary is closed- I tried to take a peek at what you are eating on a daily basis just to get some ideas. You say your eating 1470 calories a day, are you eating back your exercise calories? How much fat and protein are you getting regularly?
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
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    1470 calories a day if you are 90 pounds overweight seems like a pretty low number of calories. Honestly its possible you are just being overly aggressive and you should eat more so that weight loss is comfortable and not a constant struggle.

    That said it is hard to know for sure without knowing more about you (weight/height/age/activity level/goal weight etc)
  • ChristyLane24
    ChristyLane24 Posts: 31 Member
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    What are you eating?
  • leanjogreen18
    leanjogreen18 Posts: 2,492 Member
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    Make sure you are getting 7-8 hrs of sleep too. It keeps your stress hormone from going up causing you to be hungrier.
  • Troutsy
    Troutsy Posts: 275 Member
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    johunt615 wrote: »
    Make sure you are getting 7-8 hrs of sleep too. It keeps your stress hormone from going up causing you to be hungrier.

    From my own personal experience this is true. If I don't get enough sleep I start craving carbs.
  • walterls
    walterls Posts: 8 Member
    edited August 2016
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    Just opened up my diary- new to this app. I am currently 266lbs, mother of 2 small kiddos, pescetarian/veggie. I usually have a protein smoothie for breakfast, or eggs and fruit, fruit/raw veggies for snacks, salad or wrap for lunch, veggie burger/veggies for dinner.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,558 Member
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    For me, it wasn't so much a timespan, as some helpful experiments.

    When I was hungry at first, I experimented with the timing and composition of my eating, until I found the routine that was most satiating for me.

    By timing, I mean things like whether you have 3 main meals only, or 3 + snacks, or 5-6 small meals, or one or two big daily meals only, etc. It also includes variables like whether you feel better with a big breakfast then smaller meals later in the day, or even-sized meals, or saving up calories for a big dinner. Some people find themselves more satisfied if they save some calories for evening snacking, too.

    By composition, I mean varying your macros & fiber - within a healthy range, of course - to see what you find filling. Some people feel fuller when they get plenty of protein, some need a bit more healthy fat to feel best, some need at least some carbs for satiation while others find that eating carbs make them crave even more carbs! Also, some people find that eating high-volume/low-calorie foods (usually fibrous veggies) is important to keep them feeling full.

    You may find that you adjust in a couple of weeks to eating less, but you might also want to experiment with some of these things. Try a new approach for a couple of days; if it helps, keep it; if it doesn't, try something else.

    Another option may be to "phase in" your calorie deficit. Even if you have quite a lot you want to lose, you can start by setting MFP to lose half a pound a week, figure that out, then a couple or few weeks later increase your deficit (reduce your calorie goal) to 1 pound a week, etc. For some, that's easier than an abrupt switch to a huge calorie deficit.

    A good part of the likelihood of succeeding is finding an approach that's sustainable over the long haul. There is no really healthy method of super-fast weight loss, so 90 pounds will take a while in any case. A slower, but do-able, consistent approach may get you to your goal faster than an aggressive approach that leads to slips & restarts.
  • Troutsy
    Troutsy Posts: 275 Member
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    walterls wrote: »
    Just opened up my diary- new to this app. I am currently 266lbs, mother of 2 small kiddos, pescetarian/veggie. I usually have a protein smoothie for breakfast, or eggs and fruit, fruit/raw veggies for snacks, salad or wrap for lunch, veggie burger/veggies for dinner.

    What is your activity level? With two little ones I assume your busy lol. It could be you aren't eating enough calories. How aggressive of weight loss did you set MFP to?
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
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    These are my really general tips for hunger:

    1. Make sure that your calorie goals are actually set appropriately. Don't skip this step. A lot of people set goals that are too aggressive and then wonder why they're having a hard time. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819055/setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets

    2. Look for foods higher in protein, fat, and fiber. These help us stay full and more satisfied longer. If you're using MFP's default settings, try to consider protein, fat, and fiber as minimums to reach every day rather than maximums to stay below.

    3. Drink plenty of fluids. Some people really do confuse thirst and hunger.

    4. Get plenty of rest. This includes sleeping enough and taking rest days from the exercise. Sometimes our bodies look for food when they're exhausted.

    5. Play around with your meal timings. Some people do really well on 5-6 small meals a day and others feel like they want to gnaw their own arm off eating like that. Skipping breakfast, eating breakfast, 16:8 fasting, 6 small meals, 3 larger meals, snacks, no snacks, meal timing won't make a big difference to your weight loss, but it may help your hunger levels, mood, concentration, gym performance, etc. throughout the day. Don't be afraid to try a different way and see if it helps.

    6. Wait it out. If you know you're eating enough and the other steps above aren't helping, you may just have to wait it out. Our bodies send out hunger signals partially out of habit. If you eat at a certain time every day your body will start to get hungry at that time. The good news is that these signals can be retrained to stop telling you to be hungry all the time. The bad news is that you may just have to be hungry for a little bit while that happens.

    7. I also think it's important to remember that there's a habitual component to hunger. This goes along with point #6, but if you eat because you're bored or you're used to eating in front of the TV or in the car or whatever it is, then you can replace those habits with others that are better for you. Things like keeping water on hand to sip instead of snacking or picking up hobbies that keep your hands busy or that get you out of the house more can help out a little while you're retraining your hunger cues. You might need to pay attention to why you're eating/hungry or what you're feeling when you eat and try to replace food with other things, but it can be really beneficial over time.
  • walterls
    walterls Posts: 8 Member
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    Awolturtle wrote: »
    walterls wrote: »
    Just opened up my diary- new to this app. I am currently 266lbs, mother of 2 small kiddos, pescetarian/veggie. I usually have a protein smoothie for breakfast, or eggs and fruit, fruit/raw veggies for snacks, salad or wrap for lunch, veggie burger/veggies for dinner.

    What is your activity level? With two little ones I assume your busy lol. It could be you aren't eating enough calories. How aggressive of weight loss did you set MFP to?

    I have been swimming a few times per week for around 6 months, and lifting once a week. I have increased my cardio in the last couple of weeks to include 30+ minutes early in the am before the kiddos get up around 4 days per week. -Yes, the kiddos keep me busy. :) I set the MFP weight loss to 2lbs per week. I realize it may be aggressive, but I also feel like I need to get some "wins" on the scale/clothing fit to keep me going.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    edited August 2016
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    At 266 pounds 1470 calories a day seems very low to me.

    Just pulling up two different TDEE calculators and using your weight and age from your profile and guessing on height at 5'6'' since you didn't give that info. Setting your activity as very low to sedentary:

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/CalRequire.html gives your TDEE at 2438 with no exercise

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ gives your TDEE at about 2350 with no exercise

    so eating 1450 a day is close to a 1000 calorie deficit if you don't exercise at all and higher deficit if you do. That is about a 2 pound loss per week.

    So what you are doing is pretty aggressive. If you are exercising its is likely overly aggressive which explains the hunger.

    From a few entries in your diary you are getting not very much protein, most of your calories coming from carbs. If you are hungry a lot you would probably benefit from lowering carbs and upping the amount of protein you eat. Protein is a lot more satiating than carbs for most people. Thats not to say go extreme, but getting 120 grams of protein instead of like 50 would probably help you with hunger. Do that and perhaps eat a bit more especially if you are exercising and that should help.

    In comparison I am lighter than you at 175 pounds and I lose weight at about a pound a week eating 2200 calories a day. Yes, I know, I'm a guy...but honestly the weight difference between us makes up for that and then some. I'm not trying to say that in an offensive way but if you are carrying around 266 pounds you do require more calories than someone carrying around 175.
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
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    walterls wrote: »
    Awolturtle wrote: »
    walterls wrote: »
    Just opened up my diary- new to this app. I am currently 266lbs, mother of 2 small kiddos, pescetarian/veggie. I usually have a protein smoothie for breakfast, or eggs and fruit, fruit/raw veggies for snacks, salad or wrap for lunch, veggie burger/veggies for dinner.

    What is your activity level? With two little ones I assume your busy lol. It could be you aren't eating enough calories. How aggressive of weight loss did you set MFP to?

    I have been swimming a few times per week for around 6 months, and lifting once a week. I have increased my cardio in the last couple of weeks to include 30+ minutes early in the am before the kiddos get up around 4 days per week. -Yes, the kiddos keep me busy. :) I set the MFP weight loss to 2lbs per week. I realize it may be aggressive, but I also feel like I need to get some "wins" on the scale/clothing fit to keep me going.

    Just be aware that a weight loss goal that is too aggressive can lead to excessive muscle loss. Ever since I realized the less muscle = lower metabolism connection that goes along with aging I've been working hard to preserve as much muscle as I can and even spent some time gaining weight to gain muscle.

    Losing weight quickly is simply not worth the flabbier body and greater difficulty maintaining my weight I was struggling with after simply doing cardio and starving myself.
  • Troutsy
    Troutsy Posts: 275 Member
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    walterls wrote: »
    Awolturtle wrote: »
    walterls wrote: »
    Just opened up my diary- new to this app. I am currently 266lbs, mother of 2 small kiddos, pescetarian/veggie. I usually have a protein smoothie for breakfast, or eggs and fruit, fruit/raw veggies for snacks, salad or wrap for lunch, veggie burger/veggies for dinner.

    What is your activity level? With two little ones I assume your busy lol. It could be you aren't eating enough calories. How aggressive of weight loss did you set MFP to?

    I have been swimming a few times per week for around 6 months, and lifting once a week. I have increased my cardio in the last couple of weeks to include 30+ minutes early in the am before the kiddos get up around 4 days per week. -Yes, the kiddos keep me busy. :) I set the MFP weight loss to 2lbs per week. I realize it may be aggressive, but I also feel like I need to get some "wins" on the scale/clothing fit to keep me going.

    Are you eating back your calories from your cardiovascular exercises? (Calorie burns from strength training tends to be very inaccurate) with the activity you do, I suggest changing your settings to lose 1 pound a week. That way you can have more calories during the day and water back half your exercise calories. Give it a few weeks and if you aren't losing, readjust.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
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    "Just be aware that a weight loss goal that is too aggressive can lead to excessive muscle loss. Ever since I realized the less muscle = lower metabolism connection that goes along with aging I've been working hard to preserve as much muscle as I can and even spent some time gaining weight to gain muscle"

    This is super important so I am just quoting it for emphasis.

    If you are too aggressive with your diet muscle loss will be inevitable. If you lose muscle your BMR will drop significantly and your weight loss in lb/wk will slow. With the muscle loss will come poorer health and fitness long term and the longer it goes on the lower your BMR will go and the harder and harder it will be to prevent putting the weight back on in the form of fat.

    The real problem is that although it is easy to put fat on it is extremely hard to put on muscle, so once you lose it it is very hard to get it back.

    Bottom line, don't try to rush to the finish line...ease back on this, have patience. I think the hunger is just a warning sign you might be pushing things a bit far.

    Also up your protein, eating low amounts of protein is just going to accelerate that muscle loss.
  • walterls
    walterls Posts: 8 Member
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    Awolturtle wrote: »
    walterls wrote: »
    Awolturtle wrote: »
    walterls wrote: »
    Just opened up my diary- new to this app. I am currently 266lbs, mother of 2 small kiddos, pescetarian/veggie. I usually have a protein smoothie for breakfast, or eggs and fruit, fruit/raw veggies for snacks, salad or wrap for lunch, veggie burger/veggies for dinner.

    What is your activity level? With two little ones I assume your busy lol. It could be you aren't eating enough calories. How aggressive of weight loss did you set MFP to?

    I have been swimming a few times per week for around 6 months, and lifting once a week. I have increased my cardio in the last couple of weeks to include 30+ minutes early in the am before the kiddos get up around 4 days per week. -Yes, the kiddos keep me busy. :) I set the MFP weight loss to 2lbs per week. I realize it may be aggressive, but I also feel like I need to get some "wins" on the scale/clothing fit to keep me going.

    Are you eating back your calories from your cardiovascular exercises? (Calorie burns from strength training tends to be very inaccurate) with the activity you do, I suggest changing your settings to lose 1 pound a week. That way you can have more calories during the day and water back half your exercise calories. Give it a few weeks and if you aren't losing, readjust.

    I have been eating back the calories. Thank you for the advice, I think I will have to readjust to 1lb per week, I have been getting a bit too hangry
  • Troutsy
    Troutsy Posts: 275 Member
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    walterls wrote: »
    Awolturtle wrote: »
    walterls wrote: »
    Awolturtle wrote: »
    walterls wrote: »
    Just opened up my diary- new to this app. I am currently 266lbs, mother of 2 small kiddos, pescetarian/veggie. I usually have a protein smoothie for breakfast, or eggs and fruit, fruit/raw veggies for snacks, salad or wrap for lunch, veggie burger/veggies for dinner.

    What is your activity level? With two little ones I assume your busy lol. It could be you aren't eating enough calories. How aggressive of weight loss did you set MFP to?

    I have been swimming a few times per week for around 6 months, and lifting once a week. I have increased my cardio in the last couple of weeks to include 30+ minutes early in the am before the kiddos get up around 4 days per week. -Yes, the kiddos keep me busy. :) I set the MFP weight loss to 2lbs per week. I realize it may be aggressive, but I also feel like I need to get some "wins" on the scale/clothing fit to keep me going.

    Are you eating back your calories from your cardiovascular exercises? (Calorie burns from strength training tends to be very inaccurate) with the activity you do, I suggest changing your settings to lose 1 pound a week. That way you can have more calories during the day and water back half your exercise calories. Give it a few weeks and if you aren't losing, readjust.

    I have been eating back the calories. Thank you for the advice, I think I will have to readjust to 1lb per week, I have been getting a bit too hangry

    You're welcome:) but I want to echo what a few other posters have said and increase your protein. Protein, fat and fiber tend to make people feel more satiated and will hold off hunger potentially a little longer.
  • walterls
    walterls Posts: 8 Member
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    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
    At 266 pounds 1470 calories a day seems very low to me.

    Just pulling up two different TDEE calculators and using your weight and age from your profile and guessing on height at 5'6'' since you didn't give that info. Setting your activity as very low to sedentary:

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/CalRequire.html gives your TDEE at 2438 with no exercise

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ gives your TDEE at about 2350 with no exercise

    so eating 1450 a day is close to a 1000 calorie deficit if you don't exercise at all and higher deficit if you do. That is about a 2 pound loss per week.

    So what you are doing is pretty aggressive. If you are exercising its is likely overly aggressive which explains the hunger.

    From a few entries in your diary you are getting not very much protein, most of your calories coming from carbs. If you are hungry a lot you would probably benefit from lowering carbs and upping the amount of protein you eat. Protein is a lot more satiating than carbs for most people. Thats not to say go extreme, but getting 120 grams of protein instead of like 50 would probably help you with hunger. Do that and perhaps eat a bit more especially if you are exercising and that should help.

    In comparison I am lighter than you at 175 pounds and I lose weight at about a pound a week eating 2200 calories a day. Yes, I know, I'm a guy...but honestly the weight difference between us makes up for that and then some. I'm not trying to say that in an offensive way but if you are carrying around 266 pounds you do require more calories than someone carrying around 175.

    No offense taken :) Thank you for the advice and the resource, I plan to re-calibrate my MFP goals, I had just been using the defaults.
  • Cahgetsfit
    Cahgetsfit Posts: 1,912 Member
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    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
    At 266 pounds 1470 calories a day seems very low to me.

    Just pulling up two different TDEE calculators and using your weight and age from your profile and guessing on height at 5'6'' since you didn't give that info. Setting your activity as very low to sedentary:

    http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/CalRequire.html gives your TDEE at 2438 with no exercise

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ gives your TDEE at about 2350 with no exercise

    so eating 1450 a day is close to a 1000 calorie deficit if you don't exercise at all and higher deficit if you do. That is about a 2 pound loss per week.

    So what you are doing is pretty aggressive. If you are exercising its is likely overly aggressive which explains the hunger.

    From a few entries in your diary you are getting not very much protein, most of your calories coming from carbs. If you are hungry a lot you would probably benefit from lowering carbs and upping the amount of protein you eat. Protein is a lot more satiating than carbs for most people. Thats not to say go extreme, but getting 120 grams of protein instead of like 50 would probably help you with hunger. Do that and perhaps eat a bit more especially if you are exercising and that should help.

    In comparison I am lighter than you at 175 pounds and I lose weight at about a pound a week eating 2200 calories a day. Yes, I know, I'm a guy...but honestly the weight difference between us makes up for that and then some. I'm not trying to say that in an offensive way but if you are carrying around 266 pounds you do require more calories than someone carrying around 175.

    Exactly this that he said here. Never use the MFP calculator - use the TDEE ones - MUCH more realistic. You shouldn't be feeling like you're hungry all the time. A bit peckish yes, ok - but not HUNGRY.