Does the media put pressure on your body image and should there be laws to stop this?

RachelElser

Sure, it effects me to a degree, but at the same time I darn well know none of those images are untouched. Law wise- no- people have to be responsible for their own actions. Like I tell the 5 year olds, focus on what you are doing instead of tattle telling on someone else.

leanjogreen18

Aaron_K123 wrote: »

leanjogreen18 wrote: »

I think there is a difference in calling someone out and calling someone a name. There doesn't need to be name calling to get a point across. You don't need to censor yourself too much to not call people names.

I've learned the most from snarky and what some would call "mean" posts. But I can't get past the name calling, that sounds childish to me and takes away from the intent of the post.

ETA - Some would call me a "land whale" when I'm out and about at the store or whatever BUT you wouldn't know how hard I've been working to lose weight or how many times I've tried succeeded and only failed on maintaining.

Call people out for being ignorant, call people out for being slow at the grocery store or for whining about why they aren't losing weight cleaning their house but theres no need to call people names. It takes away from the very valuable information you are giving.

I've never reported anyone for what its worth.

I guess that is the part I don't understand and its hard to truly empathize with someone without having at least some understanding of why they feel the way they do.

I am a bit overweight, that is why I am here. If Gallow here called me a land whale in a comment on here I can easily state it would have no emotional impact on me whatsoever. Why? Because he isn't a close friend or family member to me that I have some deep running respect for. He is a total stranger. If he calls me a land-whale my thought isn't "how rude" my thought is "well that was a stupid thing for him to say" and I either move on or point out that was a stupid thing to say. The last thing I do is get hurt by a total stranger making a random flippant comment on the internet and if you are truly THAT sensitive that total strangers making flippant comments can ruin your day then most likely you shouldn't be actively participating in public forums on the internet.

Because that is how I feel I sort of assume that other people feel that way as well and am suprised when an adult gets offended by a stranger on the internet. For example I freely state that I don't have a deep running respect for Gallow fully expecting he isn't going to take any offense to that statement simply because I'm not a personal friend or family member to him. I just don't understand how people get so amazingly sensitive that they need total strangers praising them or remaining neutral to them all the time and are thrown off by a single stranger saying something negative. Why not just ignore it if you don't agree with it? Is it a requirement that everyone on earth like and respect us?

That brings up that second point that was mentioned earlier, its hard not to think that people who are offended are offended because they see truth in a statement and they don't like hearing it. If they really think its utterly wrong then why does it have ANY impact on them at all coming from a complete stranger?

Of course there is truth in the statement thats why it hurts feelings but my more important point is that it takes away from the very important message one is trying to post. I've made my peace with Gallow I understand sorta where he is coming from, but I don't have to like it anymore than he doesn't have to stop calling people names.

If I see a stranger on the side of the road needing help I stop. A stranger on the internet being called a name isn't any different to me. People have feelings, emotions and most here are looking for help. At Gallows own admission some of his insightful posts are being deleted.

I hope I never stop feeling sad over anyone's hurt feelings internet or not justified or not - this is me. But I will stop addressing it because most people can stand up for themselves and don't need me too:).

I also understand ones right to post or say whatever they want, thats why I haven't or won't ever flag/report these types of posts.

Go and read my very first post on zig zagging its quite embarrassing but I came here to learn and thankfully I can learn from so called "snarky,mean" posts. My issue (after my very first post and my defensiveness dropped) hasn't been with insightful post regardless of how they are presented only with name calling but I'm trying to get over that now, to each his own:).

avalonblues

MichaelKarnes wrote: »

No and no.

Agreed!

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Therealobi1

Packerjohn wrote: »

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lemurcat12 wrote: »

jrulo16 wrote: »

We will soon see the health consequences of ignoring health for the sake of feelings.

I see no evidence that anyone is actually ignoring health for the sake of feelings. Doctors still (properly) identify obesity/overweight as a health concern, and the government has had an ongoing effort to educate the public in eating less and moving more. I think people are more aware than being overweight is a health issue than when I was a kid (and far fewer people were overweight).

On the other hand, both then and now (at least in the circles I'm in) health is only a small part of why people don't want to be fat -- it's considered far preferable and more attractive to be thin (and I'm not objecting to this, I agree, which is why my preferred weight isn't simply within the healthy zone, but more like BMI 20-21, where I think I look better). That many people are overweight isn't because they no longer think being thin is preferable, at least not in the society I live in, it's because the environment makes it harder and they haven't adjusted/figured out how to stay a healthy weight despite this yet or simply because humans don't always choose long-term health or even other positive things when making a tradeoff.

I'm honestly not sure which is worse: preferences that induce horrible consequences, or ignorance in a time when the free flow of information has never been more available to the masses.

There is MORE information available for sure. Now the accuracy of that information... well, just look at these forums or the popularity of folks like Food Bad and David "Avocado" Wolfe.

That's true, but as I have said many times, I am not the smartest person in the world, and even I have managed to sort out most of the crap from the useful.

I tend to catch a lot of *kitten* on these forums because I push optimal and not "good enough for sedentary housewives". Believe me, if I can read studies, read work from reputable experts, and shuffle in the "broscience" that actually works in between, anyone who isn't completely mentally deficient should be capable of doing the same. I know, I know...effort.

In my opinion, nothing wrong with pushing optimal, fact of the matter most people will not get there, but much better than pursuing good enough for sedentary housewives and not getting there. Need to keep the bar high.

Quote from, I believe Vince Lombardi, "perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we catch excellence".

Or end up looking mash up after lots of botched plastic surgery

Therealobi1

Lizarking wrote: »

Weak mindedness should be addressed by a counselor, not by changing a generally acceptable environment.

Think parenting skills need to kick in too

Therealobi1

It effects many people, but I can't imagine what laws would stop it
We can't even stop knife and gun crimes