Premium?

Has anyone went premium and is it worth the money? I'd love new friends to motivate and be motivated by. Add me
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  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    It's worth the money for people who use specific premium features. Are there specific features that you're interested in?
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    Repeating what I said in another thread:

    Not at all. I need an accurate database before i pay for a calorie counting site.
  • tiletha444
    tiletha444 Posts: 9 Member
    I paid for a one month trial just yesterday. I like the option to set up daily goals; however, that is something I can possibly do mentally. So far, I do not plan on renewing.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    Repeating what I said in another thread:

    Not at all. I need an accurate database before i pay for a calorie counting site.

    I'd settle for a database that had the USDA officially-added entries marked/highlighted in some way. HOW HARD would that be? Can ya just put a little "+" mark by it? Or make it another color? Or put it in its own database? Or put it at the top somewhere?

    Seems so easy yet so elusive.

    Hear hear!!! Or filter out user-added entries.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Repeating what I said in another thread:

    Not at all. I need an accurate database before i pay for a calorie counting site.

    This.
    Repeating what I said in another thread:

    Not at all. I need an accurate database before i pay for a calorie counting site.

    I'd settle for a database that had the USDA officially-added entries marked/highlighted in some way. HOW HARD would that be? Can ya just put a little "+" mark by it? Or make it another color? Or put it in its own database? Or put it at the top somewhere?

    Seems so easy yet so elusive.

    And this.
  • Dano74
    Dano74 Posts: 503 Member
    I'll break ranks here and say "Yes". As a macro type of guy, the ability to change calories by day and the addition of the macro counter front and center was worth the price alone.

    As for accuracy, you can always find an "accurate" nutritional profile in the database. Considering nutritional labels allow for variance anyway, there will always be variance no matter how accurate one label is compared to the next. Do this long enough and you'll have a pretty good approximation to know what's right and wrong- generally speaking, we're talking relatively accurate ballpark for calorie counts anyway.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    Dano74 wrote: »
    I'll break ranks here and say "Yes". As a macro type of guy, the ability to change calories by day and the addition of the macro counter front and center was worth the price alone.

    As for accuracy, you can always find an "accurate" nutritional profile in the database. Considering nutritional labels allow for variance anyway, there will always be variance no matter how accurate one label is compared to the next. Do this long enough and you'll have a pretty good approximation to know what's right and wrong- generally speaking, we're talking relatively accurate ballpark for calorie counts anyway.

    Yeah... no. I am not paying to do extra work.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    CincyNeid wrote: »
    I have no issues paying premium prices for premium apps. I do not feel this is one of them.

    Ya, I pay for subscriptions to America's Test Kitchen and Hulu, and my OH pays for Netflix, and we feel these are worth the cost.
  • upoffthemat
    upoffthemat Posts: 679 Member
    Agreed, the database is worth what we are paying for it at this point
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Searching for "chicken breast" gives lots of verified results but the system entry I actually want, 'Chicken, broilers or fryers, breast, meat only, cooked, roasted' is no where to be found.

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    No system entry anywhere near the top for "chicken breast, cooked" either:

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    Now, I happen to know to get the syntax from the https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods so am able to find the system entry. But when I try to use grams, there is a decimal error:

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    No big deal, glitches happen, however I let Support know about this on August 10 as part of my July 29 case about the same issue with "butter, unsalted" and neither issue has been fixed yet.

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    So, not even going to consider paying for Premium until they get this basic stuff straightened out.


  • upoffthemat
    upoffthemat Posts: 679 Member
    1 g of chicken breast is 717 calories .... seems legit
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited September 2016
    makingmark wrote: »
    1 g of chicken breast is 717 calories .... seems legit

    Ya, there is a bug that causes some, but not all, of the 1 g entries to actually give results for 100 g.

    There's also a bug that causes some, but not all, solid foods to have liquid measurements like fluid ounces instead of regular ounces and grams. I report these to Support when I find them, with mixed results. Sigh.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Dano74 wrote: »
    I'll break ranks here and say "Yes". As a macro type of guy, the ability to change calories by day and the addition of the macro counter front and center was worth the price alone.

    As for accuracy, you can always find an "accurate" nutritional profile in the database. Considering nutritional labels allow for variance anyway, there will always be variance no matter how accurate one label is compared to the next. Do this long enough and you'll have a pretty good approximation to know what's right and wrong- generally speaking, we're talking relatively accurate ballpark for calorie counts anyway.

    What some of us are complaining about is the inability to differentiate user-created entries based on God knows what vs system entries that were pulled from the USDA database. We were able to differentiate before the Verified update via the asterisk vs no asterisk system. Now, if user-created Verified entries had yellow check marks and the system entries continued to have the green check marks, that would be a start.

    The ridiculous number of duplicates for the same foods should be removed as well.

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  • jdwils14
    jdwils14 Posts: 154 Member
    Repeating what I said in another thread:

    Not at all. I need an accurate database before i pay for a calorie counting site.

    1. You can create every entry you use and add that at each meal
    2. You will probably not find a site like this that has an accurate database.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    jdwils14 wrote: »
    Repeating what I said in another thread:

    Not at all. I need an accurate database before i pay for a calorie counting site.

    1. You can create every entry you use and add that at each meal
    2. You will probably not find a site like this that has an accurate database.

    3. This is why I won't pay for it.
    4. Lists are annoying.
  • jdwils14
    jdwils14 Posts: 154 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Searching for "chicken breast" gives lots of verified results but the system entry I actually want, 'Chicken, broilers or fryers, breast, meat only, cooked, roasted' is no where to be found.

    164b694d33f3750589540c3a18bd8473.png

    No system entry anywhere near the top for "chicken breast, cooked" either:

    0f14c47d7cde6abd9cbe89226bd59f7c.png

    Now, I happen to know to get the syntax from the https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods so am able to find the system entry. But when I try to use grams, there is a decimal error:

    8b9907b719ede9d1fc777c8828cce485.png

    No big deal, glitches happen, however I let Support know about this on August 10 as part of my July 29 case about the same issue with "butter, unsalted" and neither issue has been fixed yet.

    9e596284abccdebeabd6e5f45c038937.png

    So, not even going to consider paying for Premium until they get this basic stuff straightened out.


    If you create your own entry, with your own supplied data (only takes a minute to add nutrients in), every time you put that item in to count it, your entry will pop up first.

    Cmon, people. Don't be lazy because of the idiots.
  • maidengirl_
    maidengirl_ Posts: 283 Member
    Why pay for premium features? The site is just as effective without the extras. I have lost 40 pounds on FREE MFP which is more than I can say for other sites I have used that required a paid subscription.
  • Dano74
    Dano74 Posts: 503 Member
    Dano74 wrote: »
    I'll break ranks here and say "Yes". As a macro type of guy, the ability to change calories by day and the addition of the macro counter front and center was worth the price alone.

    As for accuracy, you can always find an "accurate" nutritional profile in the database. Considering nutritional labels allow for variance anyway, there will always be variance no matter how accurate one label is compared to the next. Do this long enough and you'll have a pretty good approximation to know what's right and wrong- generally speaking, we're talking relatively accurate ballpark for calorie counts anyway.

    Yeah... no. I am not paying to do extra work.

    That's cool. As for me, I'm not paying to do extra work. I'm paying for features I find more convenient/helpful than the free version.
  • Dano74
    Dano74 Posts: 503 Member
    edited September 2016
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Dano74 wrote: »
    I'll break ranks here and say "Yes". As a macro type of guy, the ability to change calories by day and the addition of the macro counter front and center was worth the price alone.

    As for accuracy, you can always find an "accurate" nutritional profile in the database. Considering nutritional labels allow for variance anyway, there will always be variance no matter how accurate one label is compared to the next. Do this long enough and you'll have a pretty good approximation to know what's right and wrong- generally speaking, we're talking relatively accurate ballpark for calorie counts anyway.

    What some of us are complaining about is the inability to differentiate user-created entries based on God knows what vs system entries that were pulled from the USDA database. We were able to differentiate before the Verified update via the asterisk vs no asterisk system. Now, if user-created Verified entries had yellow check marks and the system entries continued to have the green check marks, that would be a start.

    The ridiculous number of duplicates for the same foods should be removed as well.

    Agreed. I, personally, just don't find it all that troublesome or problematic as once I log an accurate item, it's in my personal database for easy reference later. And really, it's the features I pay for- not the free database:

    Ad-Free
    Focus on meeting your goals without distraction

    Macronutrients by Gram
    Set macronutrient goals by either gram or percentage

    Quick Add Macronutrients
    Quick Add users can now add macros to their calorie entries

    Different Goals by Day
    Set custom calorie and macronutrient goals for any day of the week

    Home Screen Dashboard
    Easily keep an eye on your nutrient goals rather than focusing solely on calories
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    jdwils14 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Searching for "chicken breast" gives lots of verified results but the system entry I actually want, 'Chicken, broilers or fryers, breast, meat only, cooked, roasted' is no where to be found.

    164b694d33f3750589540c3a18bd8473.png

    No system entry anywhere near the top for "chicken breast, cooked" either:

    0f14c47d7cde6abd9cbe89226bd59f7c.png

    Now, I happen to know to get the syntax from the https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods so am able to find the system entry. But when I try to use grams, there is a decimal error:

    8b9907b719ede9d1fc777c8828cce485.png

    No big deal, glitches happen, however I let Support know about this on August 10 as part of my July 29 case about the same issue with "butter, unsalted" and neither issue has been fixed yet.

    9e596284abccdebeabd6e5f45c038937.png

    So, not even going to consider paying for Premium until they get this basic stuff straightened out.


    If you create your own entry, with your own supplied data (only takes a minute to add nutrients in), every time you put that item in to count it, your entry will pop up first.

    Cmon, people. Don't be lazy because of the idiots.

    This is what I do, but since I have to do that, I wouldn't pay for it. I'm doing most of the work doing it this way and I'm not paying a premium price for having to do my own grunt work.

    Doesn't make me lazy - just not going to pay premium for a sub-premium service.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    jdwils14 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Searching for "chicken breast" gives lots of verified results but the system entry I actually want, 'Chicken, broilers or fryers, breast, meat only, cooked, roasted' is no where to be found.

    164b694d33f3750589540c3a18bd8473.png

    No system entry anywhere near the top for "chicken breast, cooked" either:

    0f14c47d7cde6abd9cbe89226bd59f7c.png

    Now, I happen to know to get the syntax from the https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods so am able to find the system entry. But when I try to use grams, there is a decimal error:

    8b9907b719ede9d1fc777c8828cce485.png

    No big deal, glitches happen, however I let Support know about this on August 10 as part of my July 29 case about the same issue with "butter, unsalted" and neither issue has been fixed yet.

    9e596284abccdebeabd6e5f45c038937.png

    So, not even going to consider paying for Premium until they get this basic stuff straightened out.


    If you create your own entry, with your own supplied data (only takes a minute to add nutrients in), every time you put that item in to count it, your entry will pop up first.

    Cmon, people. Don't be lazy because of the idiots.

    I have to do extra work. And therefore will not pay for the service. If the database functioned as designed, I might reconsider.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited September 2016
    Dano74 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Dano74 wrote: »
    I'll break ranks here and say "Yes". As a macro type of guy, the ability to change calories by day and the addition of the macro counter front and center was worth the price alone.

    As for accuracy, you can always find an "accurate" nutritional profile in the database. Considering nutritional labels allow for variance anyway, there will always be variance no matter how accurate one label is compared to the next. Do this long enough and you'll have a pretty good approximation to know what's right and wrong- generally speaking, we're talking relatively accurate ballpark for calorie counts anyway.

    What some of us are complaining about is the inability to differentiate user-created entries based on God knows what vs system entries that were pulled from the USDA database. We were able to differentiate before the Verified update via the asterisk vs no asterisk system. Now, if user-created Verified entries had yellow check marks and the system entries continued to have the green check marks, that would be a start.

    The ridiculous number of duplicates for the same foods should be removed as well.

    Agreed. I, personally, just don't find it all that troublesome or problematic as once I log an accurate item, it's in my personal database for easy reference later. And really, it's the features I pay for- not the free database:

    Ad-Free
    Focus on meeting your goals without distraction

    [snip]

    My browsing experience has been ad-free for years, thanks to a free program the name of which is now censored when I attempt to post it.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    edited September 2016
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    My browsing experience has been ad-free for years, thanks to a free program the name of which is now censored when I attempt to post it.

    "Block This" works for me on my Samsung S5.

    It's banned from GooglePlay but you can download ir direct from the maker.

    Just Google it. LOL!!!
  • Dano74
    Dano74 Posts: 503 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Dano74 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    Dano74 wrote: »
    I'll break ranks here and say "Yes". As a macro type of guy, the ability to change calories by day and the addition of the macro counter front and center was worth the price alone.

    As for accuracy, you can always find an "accurate" nutritional profile in the database. Considering nutritional labels allow for variance anyway, there will always be variance no matter how accurate one label is compared to the next. Do this long enough and you'll have a pretty good approximation to know what's right and wrong- generally speaking, we're talking relatively accurate ballpark for calorie counts anyway.

    What some of us are complaining about is the inability to differentiate user-created entries based on God knows what vs system entries that were pulled from the USDA database. We were able to differentiate before the Verified update via the asterisk vs no asterisk system. Now, if user-created Verified entries had yellow check marks and the system entries continued to have the green check marks, that would be a start.

    The ridiculous number of duplicates for the same foods should be removed as well.

    Agreed. I, personally, just don't find it all that troublesome or problematic as once I log an accurate item, it's in my personal database for easy reference later. And really, it's the features I pay for- not the free database:

    Ad-Free
    Focus on meeting your goals without distraction

    [snip]

    My browsing experience has been ad-free for years, thanks to a free program the name of which is now censored when I attempt to post it.

    Awesome!
  • I've been a tester for it this month, honestly it is a huge waste of money for how much you need to pay. It' doesn't offer enough. I'd save my money.