Restrictive diet venting
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concrete_daisies wrote: »I think the OP's point was that she can have the bread, but not all the bread she would like to eat when she wants to eat it. Those of us with allergies and intolerances can't have the bread (so to speak) at all, so it's a different struggle. Going over sodium here and there doesn't usually have immediate repercussions, more long-term, and to my mind that makes it a little harder to manage the cravings since there may not be immediate consequences.
Regardless of whether allergies makes it easier or harder to regulate your dietary restrictions (which I don't actually think it does, not when some of the allergens are so ubiquitous), that doesn't invalidate my rant? Or may it any less relevant to the topic in fact: OP was frustrated about only being able to eat small amounts of low-sodium bread when what she really wants is fluffy bakery bread. I can eat some dark chocolate, but what I really want is all of the milky chocolate truffles. Which I do eat, on occasion, and regret it. Cashews scare the *** out of me, but chocolate... just makes me miserable. I love chocolate so much, it is still a question of willpower.
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I'm not attacking your POV, and believe me I understand your struggles and sympathize. I'm just pointing out that the OP set the context and it should be respected.
And I was questioning her assumption. Because it seemed odd to me, she didn't specifically justify it, and I felt like I could relate to her despite apparently not fitting the criteria. Which wasn't attacking her or trying to derail the thread, maybe she just hadn't thought about allergies as a health issue similiar to the other issues people are talking about on this thread.1 -
concrete_daisies wrote: »I think the OP's point was that she can have the bread, but not all the bread she would like to eat when she wants to eat it. Those of us with allergies and intolerances can't have the bread (so to speak) at all, so it's a different struggle. Going over sodium here and there doesn't usually have immediate repercussions, more long-term, and to my mind that makes it a little harder to manage the cravings since there may not be immediate consequences.
Regardless of whether allergies makes it easier or harder to regulate your dietary restrictions (which I don't actually think it does, not when some of the allergens are so ubiquitous), that doesn't invalidate my rant? Or may it any less relevant to the topic in fact: OP was frustrated about only being able to eat small amounts of low-sodium bread when what she really wants is fluffy bakery bread. I can eat some dark chocolate, but what I really want is all of the milky chocolate truffles. Which I do eat, on occasion, and regret it. Cashews scare the *** out of me, but chocolate... just makes me miserable. I love chocolate so much, it is still a question of willpower.
this post is about OP and HER situation. if you want to talk about your sitatuon then make your own post.6 -
... you are making too much out of this. is there a reason you are making this about you? its not about you.. your are not the OP. Get off her back a little bit she came to a place to vent about her situation. its not any less valid then yours. geeze man.concrete_daisies wrote: »I'm not attacking your POV, and believe me I understand your struggles and sympathize. I'm just pointing out that the OP set the context and it should be respected.
And I was questioning her assumption. Because it seemed odd to me, she didn't specifically justify it, and I felt like I could relate to her despite apparently not fitting the criteria. Which wasn't attacking her or trying to derail the thread, maybe she just hadn't thought about allergies as a health issue similiar to the other issues people are talking about on this thread.2 -
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concrete_daisies wrote: »It's not that I don't ever eat white bread, it's that I can't eat white bread every day and keep low sodium.
I feel this thread will keep going in the "you can still eat what you want" direction which is not what I intended (just a vent, not asking for advice). I can't be the only person who is slightly frustrated at not being able to eat certain types of foods due to a dietary restriction (barring allergies and OMGDEATH food).
Why are we barring allergies from this vent? Allergies ARE a health issue. And they drive me absolutely crazy.
I am allergic to dairy, treenuts, and soy. What is one of my favourite foods ever? Chocolate almonds. Can I eat them without getting an asthma attack? Nope. Cheesecake? Won't be able to talk the next day. Anything nommy and vegatarian with tofu? Nausea, dizziness, and more asthma. I used to be vegetarian, and I love vegetarian food. But can I eat 90% of it without feeling ill?
You try going to a cafe for lunch and watching your friends scarf down a chocolate mudcake that you couldn't eat even on a cheat day, even though it looks like the most amazing thing in the world, while you sip your long black coffee (because the cafe offers normal, trim, almond, and soy milk, but nothing you can eat).
I think the OP's point was that she can have the bread, but not all the bread she would like to eat when she wants to eat it. Those of us with allergies and intolerances can't have the bread (so to speak) at all, so it's a different struggle. Going over sodium here and there doesn't usually have immediate repercussions, more long-term, and to my mind that makes it a little harder to manage the cravings since there may not be immediate consequences.
I actually find it tougher to have a little bit of a favorite food than none at all. A little bit is just a tease. Not good.
Yes, exactly! I can have chocolate cake* in the house and never give it more than a longing glance, but a pint of Ben and Jerry's is torture!
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concrete_daisies wrote: »
its actually a thread about OP.. and yes others are posting their threads in a respectful way.. you on the other hand are not. your upset at the op with her personally struggle.2 -
We have it in our household too. I am gluten and lactose intolerant. Makes things challenging but I find it easy to just say no because the effects are immediate and very uncomfortable. I am also eating to lower my cholesterol which just adds to the limitations and frustrations. It sucks and I have been more frustrated over the new restrictions than the intolerance.
My husband is a fairly newly diagnosed T2 diabetic. Much harder to just say no because the effect (except on his meter) is off in the future. He is doing very, very well in controlling his blood sugar and changing his habits. I think it is harder than my issues. When friends offer something that he shouldn't eat but he can, tough to say no. When I am offered something that hits the intolerances, I cannot eat it. Easy.3 -
concrete_daisies wrote: »I think the OP's point was that she can have the bread, but not all the bread she would like to eat when she wants to eat it. Those of us with allergies and intolerances can't have the bread (so to speak) at all, so it's a different struggle. Going over sodium here and there doesn't usually have immediate repercussions, more long-term, and to my mind that makes it a little harder to manage the cravings since there may not be immediate consequences.
Regardless of whether allergies makes it easier or harder to regulate your dietary restrictions (which I don't actually think it does, not when some of the allergens are so ubiquitous), that doesn't invalidate my rant? Or may it any less relevant to the topic in fact: OP was frustrated about only being able to eat small amounts of low-sodium bread when what she really wants is fluffy bakery bread. I can eat some dark chocolate, but what I really want is all of the milky chocolate truffles. Which I do eat, on occasion, and regret it. Cashews scare the *** out of me, but chocolate... just makes me miserable. I love chocolate so much, it is still a question of willpower.
this post is about OP and HER situation. if you want to talk about your sitatuon then make your own post.
*nodding head* Much more direct.0 -
@fishshark I respectfully disagree, but I'm not actually interested in getting into an argument, so I'm just going to leave this topic1
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concrete_daisies wrote: »@fishshark I respectfully disagree, but I'm not actually interested in getting into an argument, so I'm just going to leave this topic
how can you respectfully disagree that when a person psychically writes a post about THEIR situation... stating that it is a VENT is not specifically abou her. uhh... ok. sure.1 -
General vent thread: I'm venting about whatever I'm venting about today. What's annoying you?
Personal vent thread: I'm venting about whatever I'm venting about today. Thanks for listening.7 -
It's not that I don't ever eat white bread, it's that I can't eat white bread every day and keep low sodium.
I feel this thread will keep going in the "you can still eat what you want" direction which is not what I intended (just a vent, not asking for advice). I can't be the only person who is slightly frustrated at not being able to eat certain types of foods due to a dietary restriction (barring allergies and OMGDEATH food).
I am slightly frustrated by my allergies because you can't eat without reading the label or asking what's in what your coworker cooked. I only have one OMGDEATH food, but there six or seven that make me very sick to eat. I feel for your on not having the yummy bread.0 -
dasher602014 wrote: »We have it in our household too. I am gluten and lactose intolerant. Makes things challenging but I find it easy to just say no because the effects are immediate and very uncomfortable. I am also eating to lower my cholesterol which just adds to the limitations and frustrations. It sucks and I have been more frustrated over the new restrictions than the intolerance.
My husband is a fairly newly diagnosed T2 diabetic. Much harder to just say no because the effect (except on his meter) is off in the future. He is doing very, very well in controlling his blood sugar and changing his habits. I think it is harder than my issues. When friends offer something that he shouldn't eat but he can, tough to say no. When I am offered something that hits the intolerances, I cannot eat it. Easy.
So true. When there are not immediate health effects form eating something, it makes it harder to abstain, or eat just a little bit.1 -
I can relate, I try to stick with lower carb/sugar and higher protein due to medical reasons and multiple doc recommendations. It can suck some days because carbs and sugar are sooooo much easier to pile on. But it's what is best for my body. I do slip up (quite a bit) and have slightly higher carbs than protein, but it's a work in progress and it's gotten a lot better. Sugar is the main issue and I usually do okay in that instance. Stay strong, you can do this. Also, enjoy a piece every once in a while and monitor your other sodium intake. Not saying eating it every day, but he well all have off days, we're human. Enjoy a piece, log it, and save it for another rainy or special day.
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We dont buy white bread and my kids prefer wholemeal anyway0
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Staying away from coffee and soda, at least until I can get to the doc later to get UTI treatment. I usually have 3 to 4 cups of black coffee a day. I already feel like death, and now the caffeine withdrawal. Took some excederin migraine, which still has caffeine, but I had to take the edge off somehow. Trying to keep the pain down with lots of water but that's getting old. I feel like starting a journal of my final days on this earth. 1
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I picked up a loaf of white bread from the Icelandic bakery up the street. I'm jealous of my husband because he doesn't give a shizzle about calories and sodium and just eats a couple sammiches made of this delicious fluffiness. Here I am being conscientious of my HBP by eating lower sodium. I know millions have it worse than HBP, but dammit I'm sitting here alone with crusty, fluffy, freshly-baked white bread.
I get you. It sucks being responsible. I'd like to eat all the carbs, but as a diabetic I have to pay attention to them and spread them through my day. Do I want a giant slice of hot fudge cake which is nearly my daily allotment of carbs? Heck yes. Does it annoy me that it just doesn't fit my world? Yep. You are doing what is right for your health, that doesn't always mean it's fun though. Keep up the good fight.1 -
billieljaime wrote: »yeah like my naturally skinny peeps who can slop the PB on their sammiches and move on with their lives.....no big deal man, I have to measure and work for PB like once a week
No such thing. PB cals go in and those PB cals must be burned off somehow so that the skinny peeps stay as such
There is a documentary on Youtube called Why Thin People are Not Fat or something to that effect. There's a lot of science. What happens to the extra calories depends a lot on the individual. Some of it is burned off as excess body heat. Some gain almost all of the excess as muscle even if they are not lifting weights.3 -
wait for it...1
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I feel you OP. It sucks and you definitely need to vent sometimes, especially if you can talk to people who have btdt! I'm careful of my food balance because of severe, crippling migraines- too much or too little of sodium, water, alcohol, certain processed foods, sugar and on and on and I'm out for a few days. It's not my only trigger but it's one I can usually control. It just sucks to always have to be on top of it or face the consequences
Good luck hun, you've got this!0 -
now I want white bread.0
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preferably with PB.
and a lot of it.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »now I want white bread.cmriverside wrote: »preferably with PB.
and a lot of it.
Me too!0 -
billieljaime wrote: »yeah like my naturally skinny peeps who can slop the PB on their sammiches and move on with their lives.....no big deal man, I have to measure and work for PB like once a week
No one is naturally skinny. CICO for everyone.0 -
Right there with you. Been living this same old suck since 2013. I think I'm expected to live on coffee and RX lol. Like you, I would really enjoy a nice loaf of fluffy white bread, and knowing me, I would plow right through the entire loaf like some kind of rampaging dinosaur and then my husband would find me twitching in the floor or something. lol2
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Yes...I have to be careful with meat...particularly red meat and shell fish...and I have to take it easy on the beers...I love steak, shrimp, and beers....it's annoying.0
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Can you bake white bread with less sodium? I'm not sure how bread works. But then you could eat it. And be full of bread.0
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