Restrictive diet venting
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I miss pizza the most since I was diagnosed with Celiac. Gluten free pizza does not taste the same no matter how many yummy topping you put on it!1
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When I think of fluffy white bread ingredients they don't have much room for messing around. Flour, water, yeast, a little vegetable oil, a small amount of sugar and a small amount of salt. That's basic white bread. IDK where she would cut the sodium. Commercial bakeries may have a way but at home I don't know what it would be.
The other thing is that this delicious type of bread is calorific as all hell. Even without a sodium issue, people with a low calorie allowance still have to watch it. It is like an occasional and limited treat rather than acting as the "staff of life" under these circumstances.
OP: You are not alone. If that helps at all.1 -
When I think of fluffy white bread ingredients they don't have much room for messing around. Flour, water, yeast, a little vegetable oil, a small amount of sugar and a small amount of salt. That's basic white bread. IDK where she would cut the sodium. Commercial bakeries may have a way but at home I don't know what it would be.
The other thing is that this delicious type of bread is calorific as all hell. Even without a sodium issue, people with a low calorie allowance still have to watch it. It is like an occasional and limited treat rather than acting as the "staff of life" under these circumstances.
OP: You are not alone. If that helps at all.
I wonder if a salt substitute like potassium chloride would work in the bread and taste ok?..... my inner scientist/baker is curious now.0 -
Celiac, here. I totally get it. Some days I'm fine, and other days I mourn the loss of everything bread.
I think my eyes would roll back in my head if I could just take one bite of a yeast roll.3 -
I totally feel you OP. I am restricted by choice (I eat keto because carbs make me feel terrible and my athletic performance is *kitten* fueled by glycogen) but occasionally I'll watch my husband scarf a blizzard or see nanaimo bars at the grocery and will be like, "Oh ffs HAVE LESS CARBS!"0
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It's not that I don't ever eat white bread, it's that I can't eat white bread every day and keep low sodium.
I feel this thread will keep going in the "you can still eat what you want" direction which is not what I intended (just a vent, not asking for advice). I can't be the only person who is slightly frustrated at not being able to eat certain types of foods due to a dietary restriction (barring allergies and OMGDEATH food).
I hear you. I avoid bread and most wheat based products for other reasons. I mean, sure I "can" eat them "if they fit my macros" and all that jazz. But the sinus problems I get from the stuff is just not worth it. I can have a sandwich to day and throat full of post nasal drip for the next week or so. It does truly suck sitting by and watching someone dive in head first when you really can just dip in a big toe. Frustration totally understood. I would vent too if it were me.0 -
It's not that I don't ever eat white bread, it's that I can't eat white bread every day and keep low sodium.
I feel this thread will keep going in the "you can still eat what you want" direction which is not what I intended (just a vent, not asking for advice). I can't be the only person who is slightly frustrated at not being able to eat certain types of foods due to a dietary restriction (barring allergies and OMGDEATH food).
I totally feel your pain. I'm an abstainer and not a moderator. It's not for health reasons. It's just because I have absolutely no control when I eat certain foods. This morning someone brought Shipley's donuts to work. I just wanted to scream. If I can't have 6 donuts, I won't eat any. So I get it.3 -
Technically you can have white bread and still be low sodium. Try looking at the food labels at various brands of bread for their sodium content. I'm sure there's a few with relatively low sodium [pretty sure Arnold's makes a bread that only has 100mg sodium per slice].
This will come across as me being a douche canoe, so apologies. I check labels for sodium. I buy special, low sodium food so I can eat the types of foods I want. Low sodium bread, turkey pepperoni, Swiss cheese, are some of what I eat that are low sodium, but they are not what I want (bakery bread, normal pepperoni, cheddar cheese).This wasn't about me being too ignorant to read a food label and eating bread that's less than 500 mg sodium per slice. My intention was to talk about food, aka delicious bakery white bread, that I can't have 2 slices of without blowing my sodium allowance for the day.
You don't have a food you enjoy eating but can't because of a health issue? How fortunate for you.
Totally understand. You are venting... not asking for advice. I hear ya!
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TavistockToad wrote: »A couple of slices on the weekend won't kill you... just don't have bacon between said slices... :laugh:
she said like twice that she eats it. Maybe im the only one but i eat everything in moderation.. cool.. fun. My issue isnt thst its that i want MORE. i eat one slice of pizza my athletic husband can eat the whole pizza. I want the whole pizza too. She eats bread... she said that.. her husband gets to eat more and shes venting.
Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
Hubby can eat the bread out of the house.. at work.. at the bakery.. But why bring it in the house where you feel like you can't enjoy your life? If it wasn't there you wouldn't be having the bad feelings. I keep all off limit foods out of the house . I set myself up for success by keeping only tasty on plan foods in my house.0
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I know raising your potassium intake helps your body release sodium and is normally a great way to combat a high sodium meal, but does that help for those with HBP?1
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elisa123gal wrote: »Hubby can eat the bread out of the house.. at work.. at the bakery.. But why bring it in the house where you feel like you can't enjoy your life? If it wasn't there you wouldn't be having the bad feelings. I keep all off limit foods out of the house . I set myself up for success by keeping only tasty on plan foods in my house.
The thing about husbands are that they are free to bring what ever they want into the house. He could just as easily be dragging in mountains of tasty bread.0 -
I found when it comes to my hubby and food I like the James Bay song...Why don't you be you and I'll be me. He can eat all day if he wants I'm not tempted except when he buys wine then I cave and have a glass or two. Ok maybe when he brings in beer too, so I just count them in and sometimes go over just a bit guilt free. 0
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JessicaMcB wrote: »I totally feel you OP. I am restricted by choice (I eat keto because carbs make me feel terrible and my athletic performance is *kitten* fueled by glycogen) but occasionally I'll watch my husband scarf a blizzard or see nanaimo bars at the grocery and will be like, "Oh ffs HAVE LESS CARBS!"
ohhhh nanaimo bars are so unbelievably good if i get some i will eat them all in two days ahh2 -
salembambi wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »I totally feel you OP. I am restricted by choice (I eat keto because carbs make me feel terrible and my athletic performance is *kitten* fueled by glycogen) but occasionally I'll watch my husband scarf a blizzard or see nanaimo bars at the grocery and will be like, "Oh ffs HAVE LESS CARBS!"
ohhhh nanaimo bars are so unbelievably good if i get some i will eat them all in two days ahh
Yes they are amazing! But at a ridiculous carb/calorie count- like 250 calories for a square so small it would make me weep lol0 -
Yes, all I can say is that I understand. I have a malabsorption disorder set in motion by medical injury. I have to be on a very strict diet or else I get very sick. Not just sick for a day, but can take months to recover (and I wouldn't even recover if I kept eating the foods). So, I understand. My husband and kids eat all kinds of stuff. Sometimes I just want to be able to eat stuff. Or just basically live a normal life. But, hopefully with time I will get better (at least to some degree). I understand how you feel and just wanting to vent and have understanding. You definitely have my understanding. Though I am thankful I can keep my symptoms under control with my diet.0
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I hear ya! For me, it is cake. I love cake! The flavor, the texture, the visuals of a nice slice of cake.
But, I no longer have it. I will, however, have a mini cupcake, a couple of times a year, which satisfies my craving.0 -
The struggle is real! Due to an autoimmune issue I can't eat dairy or gluten. Imagine the frustration of that lol! I also miss that yummy. Bakery bread mmm!1
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elisa123gal wrote: »Hubby can eat the bread out of the house.. at work.. at the bakery.. But why bring it in the house where you feel like you can't enjoy your life? If it wasn't there you wouldn't be having the bad feelings. I keep all off limit foods out of the house . I set myself up for success by keeping only tasty on plan foods in my house.
It's the hubby's house too.4 -
I understand completely. I have celiac, and I can smell bread, bagels, pizza a mile away. I'm actually really bad, because the smell will tempt me until I have "just one bite". Stupid. I pay for it every time, am trying to heal from a gluten rash right now, but the smell and softness of fresh bread?....ooo......I just can't help myself!!0
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Vent! Why is it that every time I go into the store that loads of cookies and snacks are the first things I see?0
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elisa123gal wrote: »Hubby can eat the bread out of the house.. at work.. at the bakery.. But why bring it in the house where you feel like you can't enjoy your life? If it wasn't there you wouldn't be having the bad feelings. I keep all off limit foods out of the house . I set myself up for success by keeping only tasty on plan foods in my house.
Because the hubby is not the one on the restricted diet and it's his house as well. One person doesn't get to decide for everyone what they can and can not eat at home. That's selfish and... well... wrong.
OP, I have to be on a restricted diet due to a medical reason as well. I can't have a number of things such as soy, tomatoes, citrus, caffeine, and a bunch of other stuff. Do you know how hard it is to stay away from soy? I never realized how many products use it as a cheap filler (soy flour and soy protein for examples)!2 -
JustMissTracy wrote: »I understand completely. I have celiac, and I can smell bread, bagels, pizza a mile away. I'm actually really bad, because the smell will tempt me until I have "just one bite". Stupid. I pay for it every time, am trying to heal from a gluten rash right now, but the smell and softness of fresh bread?....ooo......I just can't help myself!!
@JustMissTracy Oh no.
You know that you are hurting yourself more than just a few days of not feeling well, right. The inflammation can affect other body systems, and the antibodies can linger high for months. For example, it took my autoantibodies over a year and a half of GF eating to finally hit normal. Until then, I was still having intestinal damage in spite of not having obvious symptoms.... Try to stop so you can be well. 3 -
shinycrazy wrote: »When I think of fluffy white bread ingredients they don't have much room for messing around. Flour, water, yeast, a little vegetable oil, a small amount of sugar and a small amount of salt. That's basic white bread. IDK where she would cut the sodium. Commercial bakeries may have a way but at home I don't know what it would be.
The other thing is that this delicious type of bread is calorific as all hell. Even without a sodium issue, people with a low calorie allowance still have to watch it. It is like an occasional and limited treat rather than acting as the "staff of life" under these circumstances.
OP: You are not alone. If that helps at all.
I wonder if a salt substitute like potassium chloride would work in the bread and taste ok?..... my inner scientist/baker is curious now.
I suspect that would not work. Salt adds flavor and color, but it also regulates the yeast, allowing the bread to rise more slowly and develop better sourdough or yeast flavor, and it also strengthens the gluten bonds (so it doesn't give off too much gas and collapse). It might worthwhile, if she is a baker, to experiment with less-salt bread if, say, half a tsp per loaf would fit into her salt restrictions. At any rate, here is a good place for your inner baking geek to romp.
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/professional/salt.html
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elisa123gal wrote: »Hubby can eat the bread out of the house.. at work.. at the bakery.. But why bring it in the house where you feel like you can't enjoy your life? If it wasn't there you wouldn't be having the bad feelings. I keep all off limit foods out of the house . I set myself up for success by keeping only tasty on plan foods in my house.
I'm on a strict diet for medical reasons. It wouldn't be right to impose that on anyone without medical reason. My husband and kids can eat normally and have whatever they want in the house. I work on myself accepting that. Remembering what happens to me is enough to stop me. And I am happy they can enjoy what they want. After a while I got used to it. Doesn't mean I don't sometimes wish I could try something or eat pizza. But, I used to like to try a lot of things. It was the experience of trying new foods that I liked. But, that doesn't mean it was always so good tasting. So, I remind myself of that. And I make sure to have other fun in my life. The main issue for me is how it impacts my ability to get food while out. But, with time I will improve. And will continue figuring out how to manage this. I think about what I am thankful for instead. Like that I have the ability to eat a well balanced diet that helps me get better.1 -
Celiac disease. I can rarely even eat out without being sick for weeks. GF bread? Yuck.
And now I am LCHF so I skip all sugary foods and grains. That's over 80% of the grocery store items. But I feel so much better that the inconvenience and loss of certain foods is definitely worth it.
I feel you! Living GF and LCHF has its interesting moments. I love pancakes. Big fat fluffy American pancakes with yummy maple syrup and crispy bacon. I want to eat a whole stack. Can I? No, my SO on the hand can and will. I have one with butter and bacon when I want to eat the rest of the stack.
Being short and on 1200 cals a day, I cannot fit pancakes into my macro's too often. Does not stop me wanting them though.0 -
I miss pizza the most since I was diagnosed with Celiac. Gluten free pizza does not taste the same no matter how many yummy topping you put on it!
@Treece68 The Against the Grain Pizza shells (scroll down a bit) are so f-ing good. My husband and I like them better than any other pre-made crust.
I actually thought that my favorite organic/sustainable pizza place had the best gf crust until I read that they purchase that one.0 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »Hubby can eat the bread out of the house.. at work.. at the bakery.. But why bring it in the house where you feel like you can't enjoy your life? If it wasn't there you wouldn't be having the bad feelings. I keep all off limit foods out of the house . I set myself up for success by keeping only tasty on plan foods in my house.
It's the hubby's house too.elisa123gal wrote: »Hubby can eat the bread out of the house.. at work.. at the bakery.. But why bring it in the house where you feel like you can't enjoy your life? If it wasn't there you wouldn't be having the bad feelings. I keep all off limit foods out of the house . I set myself up for success by keeping only tasty on plan foods in my house.
I am not my husbands mother so i will never dictate what he can or cannot eat. He pays for our home and the food we buy couldn't imagine putting such crazy rules on my husband because I CHOSE to eat to much and gain wait. Why make my husband suffer?5 -
I don't have the dietary restrictions (other than weight management) but I have allowed myself to indulge in some good artisan bread occasionally (yum! with olive oil or butter!) but only on the days that I've done a high intensity activity (usually a long hike with elevation gain) so I've earned the calories. It's guilt free and oh so worth it. But, I hear ya, OP. My (super thin) sister eats all the bread she wants whenever she wants and doesn't gain an ounce...0
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