Can anyone have the body they want?
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So my friend was overweight , lost some weight and is now at a healthy BMI and is really happy with her body. However , her period stopped completely and her mother told her that she should gain weight as she was not made to be thin and she is not naturally slim. Would really love to hear your opinions on this one !
Are you the "friend"? :huh:
Are you always so skeptical? Just asking for a friend.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So my friend was overweight , lost some weight and is now at a healthy BMI and is really happy with her body. However , her period stopped completely and her mother told her that she should gain weight as she was not made to be thin and she is not naturally slim. Would really love to hear your opinions on this one !
Are you the "friend"? :huh:
Are you always so skeptical? Just asking for a friend.
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If the body you want is realistically based on your own genetics, body composition, age, and other health factors ... sure. I just think someone's vision of the ideal body falls within those parameters on very rare occasions. Very few of us are grand prize winners in the genetic lottery.
Still doesn't mean we can't have rocking bodies as long as we are happy with what is possible for us.3 -
singingflutelady wrote: »
An idealized body is one that maybe 2% of the population have been genetically blessed with, and even then, only to the standards of what modern beauty looks like.
I don't think everyone defines ideal the same and the OP said the body they want, not ideal. I would never call a thigh gap or 24 inch waist or any of those trendy things ideal and I know I'm not alone.
And for what it's worth, I don't consider that an ideal body either. Not for me anyway. Because I'm both old enough to know better and to also think it really doesn't look all that good. But that's not what sells magazines unfortunately.
I have a thigh gap naturally and I'm old enough to know better
I guess I am a mutant freak who deserves to be body shamed lol
*Sigh* I meant trying to force your body into something that is unnatural for your specific body type. Dieting until you have no body fat to achieve a look.
Forget it, I'm wrong. I'll just shut my mouth from now on. Carry on.
Don't worry, everybody is wrong too.
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So my friend was overweight , lost some weight and is now at a healthy BMI and is really happy with her body. However , her period stopped completely and her mother told her that she should gain weight as she was not made to be thin and she is not naturally slim. Would really love to hear your opinions on this one !
Are you the "friend"? :huh:
What the hell would you think that ? Oo0 -
CipherZero wrote: »tl;dr answer: No.
Detailed answer: Barring exceedingly rare metabolic disorders, everyone can get to a healthy body fat level; that's a matter of how and what you eat. Most people, again with the caveat of medical issues, can both get stronger with a resistance training program AND increase their cardiovascular health with cardio exercise.
All of that said, the "body you want" is incredibly subjective. Lean people look differently because of how their muscle insertions are set, the shape of their musculature, and the length and thickness of their bones and connective tissues. None of these are alterable without some fairly significant and radical surgery.
Thats a really good answer !0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So my friend was overweight , lost some weight and is now at a healthy BMI and is really happy with her body. However , her period stopped completely and her mother told her that she should gain weight as she was not made to be thin and she is not naturally slim. Would really love to hear your opinions on this one !
Are you the "friend"? :huh:
Are you always so skeptical? Just asking for a friend.
I dont even know why you bothered to comment in the first place lol ? If you dont have anything nice to say , dont say anything.0 -
Well your friend is technically underweight at BMI 19.2 so it wouldn't hurt to gain.0
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If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.0
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singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
actually under 18.5 is underweight. so 19.2 is "normal" lower end, for sure, but depending on BF% and amount of lean muscle, may not be low for her at all. for someone with a lot of muscle 19.2 would be extremely low. If someone does not have a lot of muscle, it may be ideal1 -
singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
actually under 18.5 is underweight. so 19.2 is "normal" lower end, for sure, but depending on BF% and amount of lean muscle, may not be low for her at all. for someone with a lot of muscle 19.2 would be extremely low. If someone does not have a lot of muscle, it may be ideal
She lost her period so I would say her weight is too low.3 -
singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
Yeah thats what I said ! In fact , her dietician warned her not to go below 48kg as is it is dangerous
Its weird tho because she is short so she doesnt look too thin0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
actually under 18.5 is underweight. so 19.2 is "normal" lower end, for sure, but depending on BF% and amount of lean muscle, may not be low for her at all. for someone with a lot of muscle 19.2 would be extremely low. If someone does not have a lot of muscle, it may be ideal
She lost her period so I would say her weight is too low.
That may not we too low of weight, it could be too low calories for a period of time, or malnutrition. It isn't always about weight or BF%, can be about the diet.3 -
healthy491 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
Yeah thats what I said ! In fact , her dietician warned her not to go below 48kg as is it is dangerous
Its weird tho because she is short so she doesnt look too thin
She could consider adding muscle. It would improve her health and make her look slimmer.1 -
So if her dietitian said not to go lower I would highly recommend not going lower. I'm sure she looks thin but perhaps add in some progressive overload weight training and recomposition is she really doesn't want to gain but she has room to gain for sure.1
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Honestly , at first I thought is was due to protein or iron deficiency since she does not eat red meat and barely any meat !2
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I don't think iron deficiency makes you lose your period as I has 0 serum iron for a year because of my disease and still had my period. My symptoms were I was as white as a sheet, tachycardia (fast heart rate), sizziness, out of breath, exhaustion, etc.There are tons of non meat sources of iron. Also if she had a legitimate protein deficiency she would be very very sick. I also had very low albumin and my body was so bloated my shoes didn't even fit. She should get a blood test if she really suspects those.2
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singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
actually under 18.5 is underweight. so 19.2 is "normal" lower end, for sure, but depending on BF% and amount of lean muscle, may not be low for her at all. for someone with a lot of muscle 19.2 would be extremely low. If someone does not have a lot of muscle, it may be ideal
She lost her period so I would say her weight is too low.
That may not we too low of weight, it could be too low calories for a period of time, or malnutrition. It isn't always about weight or BF%, can be about the diet.
This.
I've lost my period for the majority of this year. At 148 pounds, I'm not low weight (health, yes, low, no.) If a recent DEXA is to be believed, at 36% bf I certainly don't have too low bf. However, I cut at 1650 calories for awhile, which was too low for me. Plus I've had an extremely stressful 6 months, which is also something that can affect your period.
If your friend cut weight at a low calorie level, it can take weeks, if not months, of eating at least at maintenance in order to get her period back. It's not an "eat at maintenance for a couple of weeks and all is back to normal" kind of thing.2 -
singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
Huh? 19.2 BMI is normal weight. It might not be ideal for this specific person (although once she returns to eating at maintenance for a while, her period may return) but as a general thing that's absolutely a healthy weight for lots of people. BMI is a range for a reason.1 -
Sorry I had a brain fart and thought 19.5 was the cut off not 18.5. Anyways she shouldn't aim to lose anymore weight and should not be eating below maintenance as she is flirting with danger.1
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healthy491 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »healthy491 wrote: »So my friend was overweight , lost some weight and is now at a healthy BMI and is really happy with her body. However , her period stopped completely and her mother told her that she should gain weight as she was not made to be thin and she is not naturally slim. Would really love to hear your opinions on this one !
Are you the "friend"? :huh:
Are you always so skeptical? Just asking for a friend.
I dont even know why you bothered to comment in the first place lol ? If you dont have anything nice to say , dont say anything.
Actually, did you miss my first response? This was just playing off a joke and was intended for you.
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singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
actually under 18.5 is underweight. so 19.2 is "normal" lower end, for sure, but depending on BF% and amount of lean muscle, may not be low for her at all. for someone with a lot of muscle 19.2 would be extremely low. If someone does not have a lot of muscle, it may be ideal
She lost her period so I would say her weight is too low.
I think 18.5 is still pretty high for someone to start losing their menstrual cycle. Generally, you need to be about 10% below normal body weight and I believe it's around 14% BF that women typically see weight-related amenorrhea. Although, excessive exercise and stress can also cause this so there might be a combination of factors at work.
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Stress can also halt or alter your menstrual cycle. If she's putting herself through stress and doesn't even realize it, then it would seem like a medical problem. I was living in a place where I was constantly stressing and sinking into depression, that it became a 'normal' for me. I didn't even realize I was stressed.
When I moved out, then the flood gates opened again. A month or so after I moved into an apartment by myself, I started being regular. When I got sick, it ended up getting pushed back a week due to the stress of being sick. It's not always a medical issue and can be as simple as something like stress.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »If she thinks 19.2 is normal weight she needs to get professional help especially since she jas lost her period.
actually under 18.5 is underweight. so 19.2 is "normal" lower end, for sure, but depending on BF% and amount of lean muscle, may not be low for her at all. for someone with a lot of muscle 19.2 would be extremely low. If someone does not have a lot of muscle, it may be ideal
She lost her period so I would say her weight is too low.
I think 18.5 is still pretty high for someone to start losing their menstrual cycle. Generally, you need to be about 10% below normal body weight and I believe it's around 14% BF that women typically see weight-related amenorrhea. Although, excessive exercise and stress can also cause this so there might be a combination of factors at work.
I vote for stress as well. 19.2 is perfectly fine unless she is super large framed. Then I could see that being a little on the low side. I have a BMI of 18.5, and am regular. When I was younger and had a much lower BMI (naturally, no eating disorders I swear), I was not regular.
Also, another consideration is if she is on or recently came off of any birth control. Low body fat and long term BC use made me lose my period for about 3 years. Gaining a few pounds deliberately brought it back.1 -
I've also voting for stress or some other cause too. While her BMI is low, she's not technically underweight.
Other people have already answered the larger question the way I would have. You can have the best body your genetics will allow, but that might not always match up with your ideals. I'd love to have longer, graceful legs, but mine are muscular and stocky, for example. Oh well.1 -
Missing periods and low energy availability (not eating enough to support activity), not low body fat, are two elements of the female athletic triad. They very much are connected. The third element is decreased bone mass, and stress is often a factor in the whole situation. There's a lot of info about FAT out there but here's a good article about it:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435916/5 -
Too late to edit my post above but I am in no way saying that low body fat or low weight does not cause the loss of a woman's period. They can, but other things can too.0
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healthy491 wrote: »So my friend was overweight , lost some weight and is now at a healthy BMI and is really happy with her body. However , her period stopped completely and her mother told her that she should gain weight as she was not made to be thin and she is not naturally slim. Would really love to hear your opinions on this one !
There is a healthy weight range for our heights. Usually people feel and look well somewhere within that range.
If your friend lost a bunch of weight in a relatively short amount of time or is at a low weight for her height then it would be worth considering that there has been an impact on her period from the weight loss. This does not mean she is meant to be overweight. It means she should keep seeing a doctor and get it figured out.0 -
Yeah stressed she definetly is !! She sometimes has trouble sleeping at night as she thinks WAY too much ! She is also very worried as to why her period stopped and what the consequences of not having her period are so that could also be why
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