Allergic to gluten
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notsosimplyabby wrote: ».... aaaand I just found out I am allergic to gluten. Turns out my break-outs and lack of energy is coming from my gluten intake. Just as I am starting to get back on the healthy eating train, too! For me, it's so hard to find filling foods that aren't bread.
I need suggestions friends on yummy snacks and meals that are gluten free. I'm not a HUGE meat fan. I eat meat, but I honestly can do without. So please don't tell me chicken and broccoli
Thank you friends!
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.1 -
JustMissTracy wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Thoughts on gluten free paper plates? I saw these at the grocery store the other day...honestly, with the whole gluten thing I can't tell what's real and what's total BS. My BIL and SIL went gluten free a couple of years ago for no reason...they were just fine...all they complain about is how they've gone GF and haven't lost any weight.
LOL...I purchased shampoo the other day that said Gluten Free and was surprised too....
As for your BIL and SIL, maybe they substituted the gluten products for same amount or more of cals of non gluten...lots of people treat it like a fad diet, and we all know how well that works.
If I could eat it, I totally would...The smell of bread, bagels, pasta etc is enough to make me crazy sometimes, I miss it SO much!! But what a horror show whenever I do consume by accident...not worth it.
Many hair products have wheat in them. And in some cases, can affect a person. When my wife eliminated hair products that contained wheat proteins, she stopped having dry scale. I have some celiac friends that have adverse reactions to them as well.3 -
notsosimplyabby wrote: ».... aaaand I just found out I am allergic to gluten. Turns out my break-outs and lack of energy is coming from my gluten intake. Just as I am starting to get back on the healthy eating train, too! For me, it's so hard to find filling foods that aren't bread.
I need suggestions friends on yummy snacks and meals that are gluten free. I'm not a HUGE meat fan. I eat meat, but I honestly can do without. So please don't tell me chicken and broccoli
Thank you friends!
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.
Well you can definitely have allergies to wheat/gluten which can be tested with a allergy test. But I suspect you are referring to the most publicized study to argue against NCGS: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648697 ?
If that is the case, here is a follow up from the author of that study:
Gibson -
"The other factor is that the two mechanism (protein-induce injury or inflammation and FODMAP effects) are independent of each other and both can occur in the one person. This has not been directly studied because we are still struggling to devise good methods to identify those with wheat protein sensitivity.
It is also worth noting that in our study on NCGS, wheat protein did cause current feelings of depression – a finding that is currently being re-examined in a larger and more complete study (the other was another ‘pilot’)"
Gibson himself can't understand the backlash.
"PG: It is a pity that findings are over-interpreted and ‘dramatic’ spins are put on data. The people who suffered the most were those with IBS and food intolerances – the non-believers felt justified in saying it is in the imagination. IBS is not all in the head. The real question that was at times missed was what part of wheat was causing the problems. It is quite difficult to understand how the fact that demonstrating wheat protein is not the cause in a group of people equates to the idea that these people do not have a problem at all (except in their imagination)."
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Very good post here. - Lots of good info. Just read and read and read all labels. In the beginning. You will get to know stuff.1
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JustMissTracy wrote: »
Thanks for the response. I have identified a few restaurants with GF menus here in Texas, but not many. You are right that you have to be careful.
Related item - PF Chang's just changed many of their recipes, including some on the GF menu. The changes were not for the better, IMO.1 -
Lots of good suggestions here for things to eat. I also do corn tortillas and make tacos out of just about anything (meat, veggies, rice, eggs and combos of all). Quinoa and millet are GF grains. I make a big batch of quinoa every week and add beans, veggies, cilantro. Super yummy!
As far as gluten-sensitivity, I believe it's a very real thing despite what some experts might say. Until they live in your body they don't know how foods affect you personally! I have also found that most restaurants are very accommodating when you ask them to switch things out (substitute potatoes or rice for pasta, for example).
A really good read (IMO) about the subject is Wheat Belly by Dr. William Davis. It's got a lot of well researched information about how the wheat in the current century has been genetically altered from the wheat of our ancestors, primarily to produce greater yields. The theory is that the change in the genetic structure of the wheat used in most foods these days has created greater wheat sensitivity because humans have not evolved to fully digest this changed food, and it's such a large part of the Western diet. I know people may disagree with this, but I thought it was pretty fascinating.
Good luck on your Gluten-free journey. You can make it fun if you put your mind to it!2 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Anything that isn't wheat...potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, lentils, legumes, oats, etc, etc, etc...the only foods that have gluten are wheat products.
Uh, untrue. Barley, spelt, kamut, triticale, and rye also all have gluten. Many many pre-packaged spices add gluten ingredients that aren't wheat.
aren't all of those some kind of wheat product variety?
And Uh...regardless, my point was that there are plenty of awesome foods that are gluten free and really, I fail to see how people struggle with this as much as they seem to...
It's the food additives that get you. How they're sourced isn't always clear.
Another problem for people, particularly those with celiac disease is that of factory cross contamination. A particular product may not have a gluten containing item in its ingredient list, but it can be manufactured in a gluten-containing environment. Sensitive individuals have reactions to even minute amounts of air-borne or residual gluten left on equipment.
Another grain that celiacs have to be careful with is oats. While oats themselves are gluten free, most commercially available oats contain gluten picked up both in cross contamination from manufacturing and from the common practice of using oats as a rotation crop on grain fields that usually grow gluten-containing grains. There are always volunteers from prior year harvests in those oats.
Gluten free oats need to be grown on dedicated fields.
So would it be safe to say that someone who is gluten intolerant or celiac should probably focus substantially on whole foods.
They don't have to. There's a wide array of gluten free products out there.
I personally, through long experience, tend to focus on whole foods because I find them more satisfying. I also tend to focus on cuisine that's inherently gluten-free rather than using gluten-free analogs for gluten-containing foods (with the exception of bean pasta, because I find that to be pretty convenient).
But sometimes, I like a Snickers bar. I'm glad it's gluten free and am happy to know that.
Sometimes, I have the urge to have Oreos. I'm glad that Trader Joe's makes gluten free Joe-Joe's.
For the most part, though, sticking to lean proteins, veggies, fruit, beans, and starches like quinoa, potatoes, corn, gluten free oats, and rice would be the best course of action. It is nice to know that there are gluten free cookies out there to buy if you want them though. And Kind bars. They're pretty tasty.
This is exactly why my wife and I eat a lot of mexican and asian style foods. Both tend to be gluten free (gotta watch the sauces though.... damn that soy sauce). Albeit, my wife isn't celiac, so she doesn't have to worry about cross contamination as much.
You have to make everything on your own. I can get San-J stuff at Whole Foods, and it's really tasty. The hardest is finding the other Asian sauces in GF versions, like hoisin sauce. I've had to resort to making my own.
You beat me to mentioning San-J as a brand that does make a wheat-free soy sauce, (in addition to soy sauces that do contain wheat.)
My Sun Luck Hoisin Sauce is gluten-free. I have no idea where I got it, but don't recommend getting it on Amazon, as it is over priced, as are most of the Asian foods I've seen there.
https://www.amazon.com/SUN-LUCK-SAUCE-HOISIN-OZ/dp/B00I57FIE8/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1475085658&sr=8-2&keywords=Sun+Luck+Hoisin+Sauce
Ingredients: Sugar, Miso (Water, Soybeans, Rice, Salt, Rice Alcohol), Water, Molasses, Vinegar, Pumpkin, Salt, Garlic Powder, Caramel Color, Sesame Oil, Spices, Citric Acid, Xanthan Gum, Natural Flavors. Gluten free. CONTAINS: soybeans.0 -
notsosimplyabby wrote: ».... aaaand I just found out I am allergic to gluten. Turns out my break-outs and lack of energy is coming from my gluten intake. Just as I am starting to get back on the healthy eating train, too! For me, it's so hard to find filling foods that aren't bread.
I need suggestions friends on yummy snacks and meals that are gluten free. I'm not a HUGE meat fan. I eat meat, but I honestly can do without. So please don't tell me chicken and broccoli
Thank you friends!
Here are 1,643 gluten-free recipes: http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipe/search/ ?f[0]=field_special_diet:139
And 1,078 that are also vegetarian: http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipe/search/ ?f[0]=field_special_diet:139&f[1]=field_special_diet:251 -
I'm not a Celiac, but definitely have intolerances towards wheat - the less I have it, the better I am intestinally speaking. Otherwise, It's a horrible painful experience with lots of non-stop diarrhea. If you know the actress Jennifer Shapiro - she is very insightful in her own journey of finding out what works and what doesn't. This is a very real disease. I would eat a LOT of bread/buns/cakes/crackers/pizza and everything in between if I could.
At this point, I just don't eat rye, barley, wheat, etc. Barilla (in Canada) has excellent corn pasta - spaghetti, penne, fusili, etc.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »JustMissTracy wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Thoughts on gluten free paper plates? I saw these at the grocery store the other day...honestly, with the whole gluten thing I can't tell what's real and what's total BS. My BIL and SIL went gluten free a couple of years ago for no reason...they were just fine...all they complain about is how they've gone GF and haven't lost any weight.
LOL...I purchased shampoo the other day that said Gluten Free and was surprised too....
As for your BIL and SIL, maybe they substituted the gluten products for same amount or more of cals of non gluten...lots of people treat it like a fad diet, and we all know how well that works.
If I could eat it, I totally would...The smell of bread, bagels, pasta etc is enough to make me crazy sometimes, I miss it SO much!! But what a horror show whenever I do consume by accident...not worth it.
Yeah, I pretty much LMAO...they eat a lot of GF pasta, bread, muffins, etc...it all would seem to be roughly equivalent to a product with gluten, just without the gluten...but they're convinced that the gluten is the problem.
The whole paper plate thing I think is weird and I'm pretty much convinced that it's a marketing scam...it was like 20 plates for $15
Dixie used to have paper plates that used an ingredient that contained Gluten. They have probably since that time changed the ingredient in their product.
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JustMissTracy wrote: »
Unfortunately, most of them are currently going with a "gluten friendly" menu - which is lawyer speak for "probably doesn't contain gluten but we don't promise". So, great for people who are gluten free to be trendy and horrible for people who are gluten free for medical reasons.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »JustMissTracy wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Thoughts on gluten free paper plates? I saw these at the grocery store the other day...honestly, with the whole gluten thing I can't tell what's real and what's total BS. My BIL and SIL went gluten free a couple of years ago for no reason...they were just fine...all they complain about is how they've gone GF and haven't lost any weight.
LOL...I purchased shampoo the other day that said Gluten Free and was surprised too....
As for your BIL and SIL, maybe they substituted the gluten products for same amount or more of cals of non gluten...lots of people treat it like a fad diet, and we all know how well that works.
If I could eat it, I totally would...The smell of bread, bagels, pasta etc is enough to make me crazy sometimes, I miss it SO much!! But what a horror show whenever I do consume by accident...not worth it.
Yeah, I pretty much LMAO...they eat a lot of GF pasta, bread, muffins, etc...it all would seem to be roughly equivalent to a product with gluten, just without the gluten...but they're convinced that the gluten is the problem.
The whole paper plate thing I think is weird and I'm pretty much convinced that it's a marketing scam...it was like 20 plates for $15
Dixie used to have paper plates that used an ingredient that contained Gluten. They have probably since that time changed the ingredient in their product.
I never knew that! TIL
Then again, we don't use paper plates, so it was never an issue.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Anything that isn't wheat...potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, lentils, legumes, oats, etc, etc, etc...the only foods that have gluten are wheat products.
This is not correct. Gluten is found in wheat, barley, and rye.
I'm allergic to wheat so I eat gluten free because its the easiest way to avoid wheat for me but I can technically eat barley and rye. I also can't eat buckwheat or wheat grass both of which are gluten free but poison for someone with a wheat allergy.
The misinformation out there can be dangerous for people like me or people with celiac who get very sick.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Anything that isn't wheat...potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, lentils, legumes, oats, etc, etc, etc...the only foods that have gluten are wheat products.
This is not correct. Gluten is found in wheat, barley, and rye.
I'm allergic to wheat so I eat gluten free because its the easiest way to avoid wheat for me but I can technically eat barley and rye. I also can't eat buckwheat or wheat grass both of which are gluten free but poison for someone with a wheat allergy.
The misinformation out there can be dangerous for people like me or people with celiac who get very sick.
Keep reading
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I eat a lot of produce, meat, cheese, and rice. I do keep corn totillas and glutino bread (my fav brand) in the house.0
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notsosimplyabby wrote: ».... aaaand I just found out I am allergic to gluten. Turns out my break-outs and lack of energy is coming from my gluten intake. Just as I am starting to get back on the healthy eating train, too! For me, it's so hard to find filling foods that aren't bread.
I need suggestions friends on yummy snacks and meals that are gluten free. I'm not a HUGE meat fan. I eat meat, but I honestly can do without. So please don't tell me chicken and broccoli
Thank you friends!
Do you have Celiac disease or did you hear this from a naturepath?0 -
I always got hives and GI problems from wheat gluten. I figured it out because it happened the worst when I ate isolated wheat gluten. I have elevated auto-immune markers and malabsorption of grains and some other carbohydrates, starch, and foods. And I get an auto-immune histamine reaction to foods. It's been very challenging. But, it was worth figuring it out to be able to manage the symptoms. I eat a whole foods diet to try and avoid reactions, and make my own food as much as possible. I eat a lot of vegetables (mostly low fodmap). I increase my calories with oils such as olive and coconut. I can eat eggs now. I can eat chicken and sometimes steak. If meat isn't fresh I can have a histamine reaction, but it's improving. My issues were triggered by medical injury. It's a long story. I can eat a highly fermented kefir, but not other dairy, although I have the histamine reaction (but it's improving). I just have to be careful I don't have too much of a build up of histamine. I eat nuts like brazil and walnuts. Fruit like oranges and berries. I can't eat gluten free products or non-gluten grains like rice and quinoa. This only started a year ago. For the first six months I didn't know and I got very sick from foods like rice, quinoa, chickpeas, sweet potato (I couldn't digest those carbs). My Rheumatologist had me track my diet and symptoms. My symptoms are manageable now and some of the damage is healing. I also have scarring in my small intestines.1
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Anything that isn't wheat...potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, lentils, legumes, oats, etc, etc, etc...the only foods that have gluten are wheat products.
This is not correct. Gluten is found in wheat, barley, and rye.
I'm allergic to wheat so I eat gluten free because its the easiest way to avoid wheat for me but I can technically eat barley and rye. I also can't eat buckwheat or wheat grass both of which are gluten free but poison for someone with a wheat allergy.
The misinformation out there can be dangerous for people like me or people with celiac who get very sick.
Keep reading .
I responded to a specific comment. I know plenty on the topic as it directly affects me and has been affecting what I can and cannot eat most of my life.
Its also important for people to know a medical wheat allergy is usually to wheat germ and has nothing to do with gluten, which is why I still get terrible cramps and painful hives from wheat grass which is gluten free. People interchange the two and they are different.0 -
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.
I don't know where you get this from but it's a crock. I have blood work showing different members of my home highly allergic to gluten years ago. At one point the inflammation it was causing my son almost killed him. That said, a whole lot of work healing the guts in this house and we can eat gluten with no problems now. But it took me years of working with different people to get there.
Yes, gluten allergies and sensitivities are quite real.
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notsosimplyabby wrote: ».... aaaand I just found out I am allergic to gluten. Turns out my break-outs and lack of energy is coming from my gluten intake. Just as I am starting to get back on the healthy eating train, too! For me, it's so hard to find filling foods that aren't bread.
I need suggestions friends on yummy snacks and meals that are gluten free. I'm not a HUGE meat fan. I eat meat, but I honestly can do without. So please don't tell me chicken and broccoli
Thank you friend
Do you mean you have celiac disease? If so, I believe there is a group for celiacs here. Also, your doctor should have referred you to a dietician.
I eat a low Fodmap diet upon GI instructions, under the supervision of a dietitian, for digestive issues. This way of eating includes no gluten, and there are plenty of foods without gluten. I make my own gluten free bread, and it's delicious! If you like breads, you can find some tasty brands out there. Also, vegetables and fruits don't have gluten.
I suggest asking your doctor for a referral to a dietitian to help you out with your new way of eating.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Anything that isn't wheat...potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, lentils, legumes, oats, etc, etc, etc...the only foods that have gluten are wheat products.
Barley and rye have gluten as well.
ETA: I see this has already been addressed.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Thoughts on gluten free paper plates? I saw these at the grocery store the other day...honestly, with the whole gluten thing I can't tell what's real and what's total BS. My BIL and SIL went gluten free a couple of years ago for no reason...they were just fine...all they complain about is how they've gone GF and haven't lost any weight.
This is absolutely agree with. When did paper plates ever have gluten, or jello? Or many other product that are now labeled as gluten free?
The only time someone should go gluten free is if they have been advised to do so by a GI because of a medical issue, and then only under the supervision of a dietitian.
That's silly to think gluten free will cause weight loss.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »JustMissTracy wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Thoughts on gluten free paper plates? I saw these at the grocery store the other day...honestly, with the whole gluten thing I can't tell what's real and what's total BS. My BIL and SIL went gluten free a couple of years ago for no reason...they were just fine...all they complain about is how they've gone GF and haven't lost any weight.
LOL...I purchased shampoo the other day that said Gluten Free and was surprised too....
As for your BIL and SIL, maybe they substituted the gluten products for same amount or more of cals of non gluten...lots of people treat it like a fad diet, and we all know how well that works.
If I could eat it, I totally would...The smell of bread, bagels, pasta etc is enough to make me crazy sometimes, I miss it SO much!! But what a horror show whenever I do consume by accident...not worth it.
Yeah, I pretty much LMAO...they eat a lot of GF pasta, bread, muffins, etc...it all would seem to be roughly equivalent to a product with gluten, just without the gluten...but they're convinced that the gluten is the problem.
The whole paper plate thing I think is weird and I'm pretty much convinced that it's a marketing scam...it was like 20 plates for $15
Dixie used to have paper plates that used an ingredient that contained Gluten. They have probably since that time changed the ingredient in their product.
Really? Could it be rumor? Perhaps that paper plates were manufactured in a facility that manufactures wheat, barely or rye, which means there could have been a cross-contamination issue.0 -
ronjsteele1 wrote: »
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.
I don't know where you get this from but it's a crock. I have blood work showing different members of my home highly allergic to gluten years ago. At one point the inflammation it was causing my son almost killed him. That said, a whole lot of work healing the guts in this house and we can eat gluten with no problems now. But it took me years of working with different people to get there.
Yes, gluten allergies and sensitivities are quite real.
http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-who-found-evidence-for-gluten-sensitivity-have-now-shown-it-doesn-t-exist0 -
ronjsteele1 wrote: »
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.
I don't know where you get this from but it's a crock. I have blood work showing different members of my home highly allergic to gluten years ago. At one point the inflammation it was causing my son almost killed him. That said, a whole lot of work healing the guts in this house and we can eat gluten with no problems now. But it took me years of working with different people to get there.
Yes, gluten allergies and sensitivities are quite real.
http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-who-found-evidence-for-gluten-sensitivity-have-now-shown-it-doesn-t-exist
You should look at my response to your original claim. Peter Gibson did a post research interview and explained why the outcome was the way it was. We don't have adequate methods, nor tools to identify it currently. Pretty much, it's too new and the science isn't there yet.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Anything that isn't wheat...potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, lentils, legumes, oats, etc, etc, etc...the only foods that have gluten are wheat products.
This is not correct. Gluten is found in wheat, barley, and rye.
I'm allergic to wheat so I eat gluten free because its the easiest way to avoid wheat for me but I can technically eat barley and rye. I also can't eat buckwheat or wheat grass both of which are gluten free but poison for someone with a wheat allergy.
The misinformation out there can be dangerous for people like me or people with celiac who get very sick.
Keep reading .
I responded to a specific comment. I know plenty on the topic as it directly affects me and has been affecting what I can and cannot eat most of my life.
Its also important for people to know a medical wheat allergy is usually to wheat germ and has nothing to do with gluten, which is why I still get terrible cramps and painful hives from wheat grass which is gluten free. People interchange the two and they are different.
I am with you. My wife has been dealing with it too (she is affect by more than wheat). It was mainly to point out that we already explained why he was wrong.1 -
ronjsteele1 wrote: »
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.
I don't know where you get this from but it's a crock. I have blood work showing different members of my home highly allergic to gluten years ago. At one point the inflammation it was causing my son almost killed him. That said, a whole lot of work healing the guts in this house and we can eat gluten with no problems now. But it took me years of working with different people to get there.
Yes, gluten allergies and sensitivities are quite real.
http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-who-found-evidence-for-gluten-sensitivity-have-now-shown-it-doesn-t-exist
Articles like this are somewhat offensive to those of us who actually get really sick. If only I could read this, and then go eat some toast or a bagel, and NOT have any adverse reactions......1 -
JustMissTracy wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.
I don't know where you get this from but it's a crock. I have blood work showing different members of my home highly allergic to gluten years ago. At one point the inflammation it was causing my son almost killed him. That said, a whole lot of work healing the guts in this house and we can eat gluten with no problems now. But it took me years of working with different people to get there.
Yes, gluten allergies and sensitivities are quite real.
http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-who-found-evidence-for-gluten-sensitivity-have-now-shown-it-doesn-t-exist
Articles like this are somewhat offensive to those of us who actually get really sick. If only I could read this, and then go eat some toast or a bagel, and NOT have any adverse reactions......
I am going to quote what I said in another thread, because I agree and it should be reinforced.I wouldn't say this is an issue with science but rather an interpretation of the study at hand. Many people fail to understand the parameters of what the study is being conducted. .
Journalist or the fitness industry reads one study and makes a sweeping end all article about how people make this up in their head. The fact is, science may not just be there and there is probably a bunch of people who do make it up, which takes away from people who have a legitimate issue.
ref: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10462573/the-problem-with-science/p14 -
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JustMissTracy wrote: »ronjsteele1 wrote: »
Who told you that? Do you have celiac disease?
-because non-celiac gluten sensitivity has been proven (by the guy who originally discovered it) not to exist.
I don't know where you get this from but it's a crock. I have blood work showing different members of my home highly allergic to gluten years ago. At one point the inflammation it was causing my son almost killed him. That said, a whole lot of work healing the guts in this house and we can eat gluten with no problems now. But it took me years of working with different people to get there.
Yes, gluten allergies and sensitivities are quite real.
http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-who-found-evidence-for-gluten-sensitivity-have-now-shown-it-doesn-t-exist
Articles like this are somewhat offensive to those of us who actually get really sick. If only I could read this, and then go eat some toast or a bagel, and NOT have any adverse reactions......
I sincerely apologize. I should know better. My intention was to help but clearly I did not...who cares why it works for you so long as it does. It's none of my business and you're not hurting anybody by following your instincts. I'll steer clear in the future.1
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