Are you afraid of fats?

Anvil_Head

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Sued0nim wrote: »

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Anvil_Head wrote: »

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Anvil_Head wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »

Fats don't fill me up at all.

I just had a big apple and a tea latte made with Fairlife 2% milk (extra protein) 3 hours ago.

I'm still full. The combination of carbs and protein does it for me every time.

That's great. But fat does it for me. To each his own. So why tell the world that there are 9 calories/gram, when I and others (including the 30,000 on the HFLC site here) get filled up by eating fat? It has no relevance for us.

Why are you so hung up on that? It's like you have intentionally ignored the rest of my post and my other posts and other people's posts and are weirdly hung up on that. ..you're a weird dude.

I don't see the problem in stating the FACT that fat has 9 calories per gram, while carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram. It's a factual, truthful, relevant statement. Good for the 30,000 people on the HFLC group who are satiated by fat - that doesn't apply to everybody and it's not a FACT that fat is more satiating than PRO or CHO.

The FACT is that foods which are high in fat are commensurately higher in calories and it's worth knowing and taking into consideration when meal planning and calorie counting. There's no reason to fear fats - they're essential to health in proper quantities - but it's good to be aware of the effect they have on calorie counts.

It's a FACT that fat has 9 calories per gram, while carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram.

It's also a FACT that the sky is blue and the grass is green.

Foods which are high in fat are higher in calories? No they're not. A bagel with low-fat cream cheese has a lot more calories, but a lot less fat, than a 2-egg cheese omelet.

Want to lose weight? Eat the fatty omelet. Who cares that it has 9 calories per gram?

We could play that game and move the goalposts around the field all day long, and say absolutely nothing in the process. That 2-egg cheese omelette has a lot more calories than a whole bag of broccoli. So what? Sometimes I like broccoli (usually with my steak), sometimes I like a cheese omelette. Sometimes I like a bagel with cream cheese. Sometimes I like a donut. They all have different calorie values and nutritional values and I don't eat any of them to the exclusion of all other foods.

I'm not afraid of fat in the least. I get plenty of it in my diet. But I also don't buy the ketovangelist "sugarz iz da debilz" stuff either. Each of them can have a place, in proper amounts, within the context of an overall well-rounded diet.

Keto is your gig. I get it. That doesn't mean it's a universal truth that everybody should adopt and cling to religiously. There are plenty of ways to eat which still promote optimal health and nutrition, in the proper context.

Nope. I had egg plant and spaghetti for dinner tonight. Never said anything about keto, never said anything about giving up carbs. What I did say, and I will say again, is to stop worrying about calories per gram. It is a completely worthless measure if you are trying to lose weight.

Actually for those who calorie count, measuring the calories per gram of all foods consumed, irrespective of macros, is a vital component of the actual calorie counting part

And this is...dah,dah,daaaaahhhhhh...a calorie counting website

I, and I'm pretty sure many others, have no idea why you continue to post comments that are simply not rational arguments of anything

We all know there are other ways to achieve your calorie goals ...which include not even noticing the calories

If you count calories and get great results, that is fantastic. Don't know how you do it, but good job.

This site is called Myfitnesspal, not Mycaloriecountingpal. There are 30,000 people on the HFLC group who are not counting calories.

Yet the centerpiece of the website is a tool to log your food and count your calories/macros. And they have a mechanism whereby you can input your data and it calculates a calorie goal for weight loss.

Oh, and it's also not named MyLCHFpal either.

If you count calories and get great results, that is fantastic. Don't know how you do it, but good job.

You don't know how people do it simply because you refuse to see/acknowledge that CI<CO is the fundamental principle behind weight/fat loss. If you'd open your eyes to that well-established scientific fact, it would be much easier to understand.

WinoGelato

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Sued0nim wrote: »

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Anvil_Head wrote: »

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

Anvil_Head wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

gonetothedogs19 wrote: »

GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »

Fats don't fill me up at all.

I just had a big apple and a tea latte made with Fairlife 2% milk (extra protein) 3 hours ago.

I'm still full. The combination of carbs and protein does it for me every time.

That's great. But fat does it for me. To each his own. So why tell the world that there are 9 calories/gram, when I and others (including the 30,000 on the HFLC site here) get filled up by eating fat? It has no relevance for us.

Why are you so hung up on that? It's like you have intentionally ignored the rest of my post and my other posts and other people's posts and are weirdly hung up on that. ..you're a weird dude.

I don't see the problem in stating the FACT that fat has 9 calories per gram, while carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram. It's a factual, truthful, relevant statement. Good for the 30,000 people on the HFLC group who are satiated by fat - that doesn't apply to everybody and it's not a FACT that fat is more satiating than PRO or CHO.

The FACT is that foods which are high in fat are commensurately higher in calories and it's worth knowing and taking into consideration when meal planning and calorie counting. There's no reason to fear fats - they're essential to health in proper quantities - but it's good to be aware of the effect they have on calorie counts.

It's a FACT that fat has 9 calories per gram, while carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram.

It's also a FACT that the sky is blue and the grass is green.

Foods which are high in fat are higher in calories? No they're not. A bagel with low-fat cream cheese has a lot more calories, but a lot less fat, than a 2-egg cheese omelet.

Want to lose weight? Eat the fatty omelet. Who cares that it has 9 calories per gram?

We could play that game and move the goalposts around the field all day long, and say absolutely nothing in the process. That 2-egg cheese omelette has a lot more calories than a whole bag of broccoli. So what? Sometimes I like broccoli (usually with my steak), sometimes I like a cheese omelette. Sometimes I like a bagel with cream cheese. Sometimes I like a donut. They all have different calorie values and nutritional values and I don't eat any of them to the exclusion of all other foods.

I'm not afraid of fat in the least. I get plenty of it in my diet. But I also don't buy the ketovangelist "sugarz iz da debilz" stuff either. Each of them can have a place, in proper amounts, within the context of an overall well-rounded diet.

Keto is your gig. I get it. That doesn't mean it's a universal truth that everybody should adopt and cling to religiously. There are plenty of ways to eat which still promote optimal health and nutrition, in the proper context.

Nope. I had egg plant and spaghetti for dinner tonight. Never said anything about keto, never said anything about giving up carbs. What I did say, and I will say again, is to stop worrying about calories per gram. It is a completely worthless measure if you are trying to lose weight.

Actually for those who calorie count, measuring the calories per gram of all foods consumed, irrespective of macros, is a vital component of the actual calorie counting part

And this is...dah,dah,daaaaahhhhhh...a calorie counting website

I, and I'm pretty sure many others, have no idea why you continue to post comments that are simply not rational arguments of anything

We all know there are other ways to achieve your calorie goals ...which include not even noticing the calories

If you count calories and get great results, that is fantastic. Don't know how you do it, but good job.

This site is called Myfitnesspal, not Mycaloriecountingpal. There are 30,000 people on the HFLC group who are not counting calories.

The foundation of this website is a calorie counting database. I'm not sure why it's so surprising to you that people get great results from counting calories, since the fundamental requirement for anyone to lose weight is to be in a calorie deficit, and counting calories using a tool like MFP is a simple way to achieve that deficit.

30,000 members in that group and not a single one counts calories? Or have they just chosen a way of eating that satisfies them or helps with a medical issue but for weight loss they know that CI<CO is still what matters? Even the most vocal proponents of LCHF on this site recognize that and bring it up in threads, I'm surprised you think none of them are actually counting calories...

Sarahb29

I'm not afraid of fats at all but that doesn't make them unlimited either, I keep my meals between 1200 - 1400 calories per day. I get plenty of fats every day with the rest of my meals. I stay away from sugar though.

Christine_72

stephenmoralee wrote: »

My mum has been on the low Fat trip since i was about 5 years old, im now 50 and she is over 70, she is still on the trip and i am fed up of trying to educate her..she just wont listen...

Haha My mum is the opposite, she has always put thick slices of butter on her bread (i mean ultra thick), and eats large amounts of cheese and milk everyday, cooks in copious amounts of olive oil, I don't think she's ever eaten anything low fat in her life! She's 76 and healthy as a horse!