Fed up with sugar?

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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Do Oreos have added fiber? If not, they should ;)
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    edited October 2016
    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/

    Conclusion

    The film’s thesis, that sugar has caused the obesity epidemic, is not well supported by evidence. It is a partial truth that the filmmakers have dogmatically represented as the whole truth, with nary a hint of nuance. And it’s not fair to demonize the food industry. It has done a lot of good by providing a greater variety of safer food to more people for lower prices. We must share the responsibility for their shortcomings, because their less healthy offerings were created in response to public demand, and large numbers of people have chosen to buy those products because they don’t know any better.

    The film will undoubtedly do some good by helping raise public awareness of childhood obesity and of hidden sugars in processed foods. I only wish it could have done so without misrepresenting the facts and without the bias and hype in support of the filmmakers’ political agenda of increasing food regulation. I try to eat a healthy diet, but I enjoy an occasional sugary treat and fast food meal, and I appreciate the convenience of packaged, processed foods when I don’t have a lot of time to shop and cook. I see no compelling reason to think it is impossible for people to lose weight on a diet that is overall nutritious and calorie controlled but that allows small amounts of even the “worst” foods.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    Do Oreos have added fiber? If not, they should ;)

    As this could potentially limit the number of Oreos I could safely eat, I do not approve of this plan! lol
  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
    Could we get a TL/DW?
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    richln wrote: »
    Jruzer wrote: »
    Could we get a TL/DW?

    Layne Norton video blog equivalent of an MFP sugar thread, except more informative and less entertaining.

    Yeah, PhD's tend to suck the fun out of topics. ;)

  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/

    Conclusion

    The film’s thesis, that sugar has caused the obesity epidemic, is not well supported by evidence. It is a partial truth that the filmmakers have dogmatically represented as the whole truth, with nary a hint of nuance. And it’s not fair to demonize the food industry. It has done a lot of good by providing a greater variety of safer food to more people for lower prices. We must share the responsibility for their shortcomings, because their less healthy offerings were created in response to public demand, and large numbers of people have chosen to buy those products because they don’t know any better.

    The film will undoubtedly do some good by helping raise public awareness of childhood obesity and of hidden sugars in processed foods. I only wish it could have done so without misrepresenting the facts and without the bias and hype in support of the filmmakers’ political agenda of increasing food regulation. I try to eat a healthy diet, but I enjoy an occasional sugary treat and fast food meal, and I appreciate the convenience of packaged, processed foods when I don’t have a lot of time to shop and cook. I see no compelling reason to think it is impossible for people to lose weight on a diet that is overall nutritious and calorie controlled but that allows small amounts of even the “worst” foods.

    I don't think you're replying to what you think you're replying to.

    Yes I do. I was just adding information.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-the-movie-fed-up-make-sense/

    Conclusion

    The film’s thesis, that sugar has caused the obesity epidemic, is not well supported by evidence. It is a partial truth that the filmmakers have dogmatically represented as the whole truth, with nary a hint of nuance. And it’s not fair to demonize the food industry. It has done a lot of good by providing a greater variety of safer food to more people for lower prices. We must share the responsibility for their shortcomings, because their less healthy offerings were created in response to public demand, and large numbers of people have chosen to buy those products because they don’t know any better.

    The film will undoubtedly do some good by helping raise public awareness of childhood obesity and of hidden sugars in processed foods. I only wish it could have done so without misrepresenting the facts and without the bias and hype in support of the filmmakers’ political agenda of increasing food regulation. I try to eat a healthy diet, but I enjoy an occasional sugary treat and fast food meal, and I appreciate the convenience of packaged, processed foods when I don’t have a lot of time to shop and cook. I see no compelling reason to think it is impossible for people to lose weight on a diet that is overall nutritious and calorie controlled but that allows small amounts of even the “worst” foods.

    I don't think you're replying to what you think you're replying to.

    Yes I do. I was just adding information.

    Gotcha. Thought you were shooting down Fed Up, thinking that's what I'd posted.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    richln wrote: »
    Jruzer wrote: »
    Could we get a TL/DW?

    Layne Norton video blog equivalent of an MFP sugar thread, except more informative and less entertaining.

    and less derpy
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    leajas1 wrote: »
    bphv5dyn3i8b.jpg

    Where?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
    richln wrote: »
    Jruzer wrote: »
    Could we get a TL/DW?

    Layne Norton video blog equivalent of an MFP sugar thread, except more informative and less entertaining.

    Thanks!
  • leajas1
    leajas1 Posts: 823 Member
    @Carlos_421 Universal Studios, Springfield USA!! Lard Lad Donuts, my friend.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    I know where my next vacation will be.
  • ccrdragon
    ccrdragon Posts: 3,374 Member
    you can get one like that at Round Rock Donuts in Round Rock Texas (just north of Austin) - it's only $6.99!
  • leajas1
    leajas1 Posts: 823 Member
    ccrdragon wrote: »
    you can get one like that at Round Rock Donuts in Round Rock Texas (just north of Austin) - it's only $6.99!

    Will they serve it with Butter Beer?
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    Fat used to be Dietary Enemy No. 1. Today, it’s sugar. But reductions in the consumption of both have done little to curb obesity rates. Why?

    http://undark.org/article/in-the-fight-against-obesity-the-real-enemy-is-oversimplification/
  • TheAncientMariner
    TheAncientMariner Posts: 444 Member
    I'm definitely no fan of sugar, at least not outside of reasonable moderation. I wholeheartedly believe that it is one of the single most causes of the obesity epidemic.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    I'm definitely no fan of sugar, at least not outside of reasonable moderation. I wholeheartedly believe that it is one of the single most causes of the obesity epidemic.

    True, too much sugar will cause obesity and other causes also include: too much fat, too much protein, and too much alcohol.

    Don't say alcohol!
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    I'm definitely no fan of sugar, at least not outside of reasonable moderation. I wholeheartedly believe that it is one of the single most causes of the obesity epidemic.
    @TheAncientMariner
    Curious what would be your explanation of the point made in the video that when sugar consumption falls obesity continues to increase?
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    I'm definitely no fan of sugar, at least not outside of reasonable moderation. I wholeheartedly believe that it is one of the single most causes of the obesity epidemic.

    True, too much sugar will cause obesity and other causes also include: too much fat, too much protein, and too much alcohol.

    Don't say alcohol!

    I'm going to wash my mouth out now! ;)
  • Wynterbourne
    Wynterbourne Posts: 2,235 Member
    You know what is causing the obesity epidemic? Too many calories. I've been overweight since second grade and I am not a sugar fan. I was fat due to too many calories from too much steak, pasta, rice, cheese, etc. The only *one* culprit will always be too many calories, regardless of the source.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    I'm definitely no fan of sugar, at least not outside of reasonable moderation. I wholeheartedly believe that it is one of the single most causes of the obesity epidemic.

    Did you watch the video?
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    I'm definitely no fan of sugar, at least not outside of reasonable moderation. I wholeheartedly believe that it is one of the single most causes of the obesity epidemic.

    It played a big role in my own weight gain. But looking back on it, it was probably the sugar (and or starches) in combination with fat that did me in -- cake, cookies, pastries, double double coffees etc. Fats have a ton of calories, and although the sweet taste was what was drawing me in, the calories from fat add up quickly. Having identified overconsumption of carbs and fats as being the primary factors in my weight gain, I have to point out the obvious corollary to that; lack of protein and fibre were big factors too. I just didn't get the fullness cues I needed.

  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    I love my sugar and I have never been overweight never mind obese.

    Childhood favourite: sugar buttie.
    1 slice white bread
    Lashings of butter
    Sugar on top.
    Served with a cup of milky sweet tea.

    Other weird sugar enjoyments
    Tomatoes dipped in sugar
    Lettuce leaves with sugar sprinkled on top then rolled up to eat.

    It just ain't the devil.

    Cheers, h.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    edited October 2016
    I didn't get fat off sugary things. I always wanted savory/salty stuff. When I used to munch out on food after school in high school, it was always things like buttered saltines or instant mashed potatoes with butter that were my favorites. Oh! And cream cheese on pumpernickel and platefuls of cheese and crackers.

    I like sweet stuff more now that I'm older and thin. I have kettle corn almost every night.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I love my sugar and I have never been overweight never mind obese.

    Childhood favourite: sugar buttie.
    1 slice white bread
    Lashings of butter
    Sugar on top.
    Served with a cup of milky sweet tea.

    Cheers, h.

    OMG my mum has always done this and still does! Except she pours the sugar on to a plate, then dips the bread into her tea, then mops the sugar up with the bread.. Apparently it tastes better doing it this way :tongue:

  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    @Christine_72 that is hilarious. I would try it but I am not sure I could stomach the milky sweet tea anymore.
    Was your mum born in the UK in the late 40's early 50's when there was still some rationing?
    I am from a north of England working class family and that was our 'treat' some evenings. Cake and chocolate were special occasions.

    Cheers, h.
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