Adding lifting/bulking friends

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  • letsgain01
    letsgain01 Posts: 106 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    letsgain01 wrote: »
    Jar_Rod44 wrote: »
    I just got off of a two month bulking session. Gained 4 lbs. I was eating around 3500 calories a day so obviously I'm a hard gainer.

    Obviously your TDEE is higher than you thought, you didn't track food accurately or overestimated your portions. "Hard gainer" is not a real thing.

    Not a common enough thing to not work on other possibilities before believing it *

    There is a woman who literally eats 5000-7000 calories a day and is still underweight and she isn't the only one but it isn't common at all and so you are right that these other things are way more likely buuut there are medical conditions that do actually make it harder to gain weight.

    If someone doesn't gain weight at the rate they predicted then their surplus is not as large as they calculated.

    If you are going to state a case study, then please provide evidence as well. Not to mention that a calorie range that broad is ridiculously inaccurate.

    I forget the woman's name, but she is on wikipedia because she has hyperthyroidism. Her metabolism really is crazy fast and should never been used as an example but rather an anomaly. Literally fall withing the 1-2% of people that have the issue.

    I literally said that it's highly unlikely that is the issue but it's plain rude to those who actually have these conditions to say it's IMPOSSIBLE to actually be a hard gainer. I also specifically said everything he mentioned is worth looking into first but yes, it is possible to genuinely be a hard gainer. Highly rare? Yes. Impossible? No. That was my entire point. Just tired of the word impossible here in regard to this.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    letsgain01 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    letsgain01 wrote: »
    Jar_Rod44 wrote: »
    I just got off of a two month bulking session. Gained 4 lbs. I was eating around 3500 calories a day so obviously I'm a hard gainer.

    Obviously your TDEE is higher than you thought, you didn't track food accurately or overestimated your portions. "Hard gainer" is not a real thing.

    Not a common enough thing to not work on other possibilities before believing it *

    There is a woman who literally eats 5000-7000 calories a day and is still underweight and she isn't the only one but it isn't common at all and so you are right that these other things are way more likely buuut there are medical conditions that do actually make it harder to gain weight.

    If someone doesn't gain weight at the rate they predicted then their surplus is not as large as they calculated.

    If you are going to state a case study, then please provide evidence as well. Not to mention that a calorie range that broad is ridiculously inaccurate.

    I forget the woman's name, but she is on wikipedia because she has hyperthyroidism. Her metabolism really is crazy fast and should never been used as an example but rather an anomaly. Literally fall withing the 1-2% of people that have the issue.

    I literally said that it's highly unlikely that is the issue but it's plain rude to those who actually have these conditions to say it's IMPOSSIBLE to actually be a hard gainer. I also specifically said everything he mentioned is worth looking into first but yes, it is possible to genuinely be a hard gainer. Highly rare? Yes. Impossible? No. That was my entire point. Just tired of the word impossible here in regard to this.

    I would never state it's impossible. There are always going to be exceptions to the rules on both sides of the equation. Not sure it came off that way, but I was supporting your position and know who you are referencing. We actually had a member on here that had the same issue. He maintained at 6k per day. So eating enough calories was very difficult.
  • letsgain01
    letsgain01 Posts: 106 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    letsgain01 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    letsgain01 wrote: »
    Jar_Rod44 wrote: »
    I just got off of a two month bulking session. Gained 4 lbs. I was eating around 3500 calories a day so obviously I'm a hard gainer.

    Obviously your TDEE is higher than you thought, you didn't track food accurately or overestimated your portions. "Hard gainer" is not a real thing.

    Not a common enough thing to not work on other possibilities before believing it *

    There is a woman who literally eats 5000-7000 calories a day and is still underweight and she isn't the only one but it isn't common at all and so you are right that these other things are way more likely buuut there are medical conditions that do actually make it harder to gain weight.

    If someone doesn't gain weight at the rate they predicted then their surplus is not as large as they calculated.

    If you are going to state a case study, then please provide evidence as well. Not to mention that a calorie range that broad is ridiculously inaccurate.

    I forget the woman's name, but she is on wikipedia because she has hyperthyroidism. Her metabolism really is crazy fast and should never been used as an example but rather an anomaly. Literally fall withing the 1-2% of people that have the issue.

    I literally said that it's highly unlikely that is the issue but it's plain rude to those who actually have these conditions to say it's IMPOSSIBLE to actually be a hard gainer. I also specifically said everything he mentioned is worth looking into first but yes, it is possible to genuinely be a hard gainer. Highly rare? Yes. Impossible? No. That was my entire point. Just tired of the word impossible here in regard to this.

    I would never state it's impossible. There are always going to be exceptions to the rules on both sides of the equation. Not sure it came off that way, but I was supporting your position and know who you are referencing. We actually had a member on here that had the same issue. He maintained at 6k per day. So eating enough calories was very difficult.

    Okay cool. I feel kind of bad for people that are actually hard gainers. I can't imagine having to eat that much a day just to maintain
  • serapel
    serapel Posts: 502 Member
    I'm a hard gainer....I see food, eat it, gain weight and think....man this is hard!!!
  • brandonation_81
    brandonation_81 Posts: 373 Member
    edited December 2016
    Started my first month of bulk in December. Working on it until about March. The cutting. I'm currently at 187lbs at 15% BF. My goal is 195-200lbs by end of bulk (eating about 300-500cal over my BMR) and then cut down to 190lbs hoping to be around 7-8% BF. Feel free to add me!
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