Powerlifters!
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Nodaysoff86 wrote: »Ok thanks everyone. Great info from all. What about eating? Im on the low side of calories now should i up that? Also what about supplements i only take a multivitamin right now.
Again, this will be dependent upon your goals and how long you've been lifting. If you're new to lifting, you'll likely still see strength gains while cutting. I'd recommend eating at maintenance and focus on the lifts revolving around powerlifting initially. Then you can compete, see what you think and reassess goals from there (just my two cents).2 -
Ok thanks.0
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Powerlifting isn't about being cut or shredded. You lift by weight classes so you didn't have to worry about % of body fat. You have 3 lifts Squat Bench and Deadlifts. You work on them twice a week except DL. that's once a week. You do one heavy day and one light day. We use to use excel programs to set up our max but now you can find max lift calculators.
A squats day will look like this.
155x10
185x8
215x6
240x4
250x3
265x2
215x6
Ext 3 sets of 8
Ham Curls 3 sets of 8
That would be a heavy day
Stop all running that takes away from your squats.
You don't train anything like body builders. Not a whole lot of exercises. Bench is bench press and incline press and some shoulder presses.
Good thing I'm just a bencher or I'd have been doing it wrong all along.
As far as weight, if you want to lose weight for health and/or aesthetic reasons, it's all good. I know quite a few masters athletes who are cutting down at least a weight class for health reasons. As someone told me, there is a reason you tend not to see any masters 3+ shw, and that's because they are simply not around anymore.
But I wouldn't cut weight just for a meet, especially not one of your first ones. Unless and until you are competitive on a higher level, honestly why put your body through the stress of a short term weight cut?2 -
I don't aspire to be a powerlifter - too old, don't want to gain weight or get hurt trying to lift too much (again) and don't have the genetics for it. . .
BUT I love watching powerlifters lift and am going to a local match this weekend to do just that.
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I don't aspire to be a powerlifter - too old, don't want to gain weight or get hurt trying to lift too much (again) and don't have the genetics for it. . .
BUT I love watching powerlifters lift and am going to a local match this weekend to do just that.
rubbish, you're never too old. anyone, any shape, any age , any size can powerlift. and powerlifting doesn't make you gain weight and its very safe when done correctly. in fact i get hurt way less in day to day life since i've been powerlifting.7 -
rubbish, you're never too old. anyone, any shape, any age , any size can powerlift. and powerlifting doesn't make you gain weight and its very safe when done correctly. in fact i get hurt way less in day to day life since i've been powerlifting.
I don't think you understood what I was saying.
I didn't say that powerlifting "makes you fat." But, it is well known and accepted that, in order to lift more you need to gain weight and I don't want to do that, especially after just losing 30+ lbs and currently being at a weight that I like best in terms of my strength and appearance.
I'm 66 years old, 5'8" and 164#. My current PRs are above (or close to) an Elite level according to Killustrated charts based on my age and sex. I can squat 240 (10# less than Elite), DL 300, BP 195 and OPH 125. Look it up.
These are quite satisfactory levels of strength for ME. Doesn't mean that other men my age and size might not aspire to do more but that's not for me.
I have been seriously hurt lifting before -- lifting less weight than I am now which suggests that poor form was the reason. However, I don't want to hurt myself again.
All you need to do is scan any lifting forum to read the stories about people (mainly men) who get hurt lifting more and more weight for no good reason other than ego, which was simple due to trying to lift too much weight - not bad form.
That's not what I care to do.
This is a personal choice that deserves to be respected given my current state of strength and fitness, as I respect the right of any person to set goals that make sense for him or her.
So, do me (and others) a favor and put a sock in the macho lifting BS. Thank-you.
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rubbish, you're never too old. anyone, any shape, any age , any size can powerlift. and powerlifting doesn't make you gain weight and its very safe when done correctly. in fact i get hurt way less in day to day life since i've been powerlifting.
I don't think you understood what I was saying.
I didn't say that powerlifting "makes you fat." But, it is well known and accepted that, in order to lift more you need to gain weight and I don't want to do that, especially after just losing 30+ lbs and currently being at a weight that I like best in terms of my strength and appearance.
I'm 66 years old, 5'8" and 164#. My current PRs are above (or close to) an Elite level according to Killustrated charts based on my age and sex. I can squat 240 (10# less than Elite), DL 300, BP 195 and OPH 125. Look it up.
These are quite satisfactory levels of strength for ME. Doesn't mean that other men my age and size might not aspire to do more but that's not for me.
I have been seriously hurt lifting before -- lifting less weight than I am now which suggests that poor form was the reason. However, I don't want to hurt myself again.
All you need to do is scan any lifting forum to read the stories about people (mainly men) who get hurt lifting more and more weight for no good reason other than ego, which was simple due to trying to lift too much weight - not bad form.
That's not what I care to do.
This is a personal choice that deserves to be respected given my current state of strength and fitness, as I respect the right of any person to set goals that make sense for him or her.
So, do me (and others) a favor and put a sock in the macho lifting BS. Thank-you.
Your initial vague post would lead MANY to believe that you were in fact saying:
1.) There is an age limit on powerlifting
2.) One would have to gain weight to be a powerlifter
3.) One would get hurt trying to lift "too much"
4.) One has to have a certain genetic makeup to be a successful powerlifter
You're far too defensive as well if I'm being honest. I think her response was geared more towards that thought process and not you individually. I shouldn't speak for her, but that's how I took it.
I'd also like to add that nothing about her post sounded like "macho lifting BS." You seem mad?4 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »rubbish, you're never too old. anyone, any shape, any age , any size can powerlift. and powerlifting doesn't make you gain weight and its very safe when done correctly. in fact i get hurt way less in day to day life since i've been powerlifting.
I don't think you understood what I was saying.
I didn't say that powerlifting "makes you fat." But, it is well known and accepted that, in order to lift more you need to gain weight and I don't want to do that, especially after just losing 30+ lbs and currently being at a weight that I like best in terms of my strength and appearance.
I'm 66 years old, 5'8" and 164#. My current PRs are above (or close to) an Elite level according to Killustrated charts based on my age and sex. I can squat 240 (10# less than Elite), DL 300, BP 195 and OPH 125. Look it up.
These are quite satisfactory levels of strength for ME. Doesn't mean that other men my age and size might not aspire to do more but that's not for me.
I have been seriously hurt lifting before -- lifting less weight than I am now which suggests that poor form was the reason. However, I don't want to hurt myself again.
All you need to do is scan any lifting forum to read the stories about people (mainly men) who get hurt lifting more and more weight for no good reason other than ego, which was simple due to trying to lift too much weight - not bad form.
That's not what I care to do.
This is a personal choice that deserves to be respected given my current state of strength and fitness, as I respect the right of any person to set goals that make sense for him or her.
So, do me (and others) a favor and put a sock in the macho lifting BS. Thank-you.
Your initial vague post would lead MANY to believe that you were in fact saying:
1.) There is an age limit on powerlifting
2.) One would have to gain weight to be a powerlifter
3.) One would get hurt trying to lift "too much"
4.) One has to have a certain genetic makeup to be a successful powerlifter
You're far too defensive as well if I'm being honest. I think her response was geared more towards that thought process and not you individually. I shouldn't speak for her, but that's how I took it.
I'd also like to add that nothing about her post sounded like "macho lifting BS." You seem mad?
Yeah this is how i took his post. no one should be discouraged from powerlifting because of any of those reasons. anyone can powerlift, if they want to.
And it kinda cracks me up that he says put a sock in the macho lifting bs on a thread titled Powerlifters. The thread isn't titled Toning and Cardio . Powerlifters grunt and brag about lifting heavy things, thats what we do.7 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Nodaysoff86 wrote: »Ok thanks everyone. Great info from all. What about eating? Im on the low side of calories now should i up that? Also what about supplements i only take a multivitamin right now.
Again, this will be dependent upon your goals and how long you've been lifting. If you're new to lifting, you'll likely still see strength gains while cutting. I'd recommend eating at maintenance and focus on the lifts revolving around powerlifting initially. Then you can compete, see what you think and reassess goals from there (just my two cents).
+1 powerlifters don't worry too much about cutting till they are ready to compete. That doesn't mean go crazy and get bulky but you need to find a good weight range to maximize your strength to weight ratio.0 -
rubbish, you're never too old. anyone, any shape, any age , any size can powerlift. and powerlifting doesn't make you gain weight and its very safe when done correctly. in fact i get hurt way less in day to day life since i've been powerlifting.
I don't think you understood what I was saying.
I didn't say that powerlifting "makes you fat." But, it is well known and accepted that, in order to lift more you need to gain weight and I don't want to do that, especially after just losing 30+ lbs and currently being at a weight that I like best in terms of my strength and appearance.
I'm 66 years old, 5'8" and 164#. My current PRs are above (or close to) an Elite level according to Killustrated charts based on my age and sex. I can squat 240 (10# less than Elite), DL 300, BP 195 and OPH 125. Look it up.
These are quite satisfactory levels of strength for ME. Doesn't mean that other men my age and size might not aspire to do more but that's not for me.
I have been seriously hurt lifting before -- lifting less weight than I am now which suggests that poor form was the reason. However, I don't want to hurt myself again.
All you need to do is scan any lifting forum to read the stories about people (mainly men) who get hurt lifting more and more weight for no good reason other than ego, which was simple due to trying to lift too much weight - not bad form.
That's not what I care to do.
This is a personal choice that deserves to be respected given my current state of strength and fitness, as I respect the right of any person to set goals that make sense for him or her.
So, do me (and others) a favor and put a sock in the macho lifting BS. Thank-you.
I can understand not wanting to get hurt but you can still compete for the fun of it if you enjoy it. I'm not going to blaze any new trails, my PR's are elite for my stats but I'm now thinking I might be at my limit due to injuries as well. Of course, to each their own and I'm set to jump from powerlifting seriously to lightening up and training for boxing and Muay Tai so I certainly can understand how our priorities change. I might still compete just for the fun of it though. 0 -
Powerlifters grunt and brag about lifting heavy things, thats what we do.
Indeed but I didn't know that common sense and reading comprehension was lost to those who advocate powerlifting regardless of the risks._incogNEATo_ wrote: »You seem mad?
Not mad. Just think I've been misunderstood and what I said was incorrectly characterized.
Nothing I said about my personal choice in limiting the amount I want to lift has anything to do with what anyone else wants to do. Too each his or her own. I was only expressing my personal point of view about how much I want to lift.
To restate what was earlier ignored and to try to end this "discussion" on a positive note::
I admire and respect powerlifters and what they can do, which is more than I can and care to try to do. That's why I regularly visit powerlifting events, as I am going to do this coming weekend.
EOM. Ciao!0 -
Nodaysoff86 wrote: »Ok thanks everyone. Great info from all. What about eating? Im on the low side of calories now should i up that? Also what about supplements i only take a multivitamin right now.
Unlike body builders you can eat pretty much what ever you want. Pick a weight you are comfortable lifting in. That is your weight classes. Stay with in 5 to 10lbs of that. Here is what will happen. You will weigh in before the meet. Sometimes it's the night before. Sometimes it's that morning. You can drop 5 lbs in water weight. As for supplements creatine will help you lift heavy. You will need a good wide 10mm belt a squat suit bench shirt knee wraps some people get lifting shoes. Like everyone is saying I would go check our a meet see how you like it. Ask all kinds of questions there. Everyone will be glad to help you. Check out all the different Federations see which one you like the best and which one has meets close.I would just start training see if that is for you.
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Nodaysoff86 wrote: »Ok thanks everyone. Great info from all. What about eating? Im on the low side of calories now should i up that? Also what about supplements i only take a multivitamin right now.
Unlike body builders you can eat pretty much what ever you want. Pick a weight you are comfortable lifting in. That is your weight classes. Stay with in 5 to 10lbs of that. Here is what will happen. You will weigh in before the meet. Sometimes it's the night before. Sometimes it's that morning. You can drop 5 lbs in water weight. As for supplements creatine will help you lift heavy. You will need a good wide 10mm belt a squat suit bench shirt knee wraps some people get lifting shoes. Like everyone is saying I would go check our a meet see how you like it. Ask all kinds of questions there. Everyone will be glad to help you. Check out all the different Federations see which one you like the best and which one has meets close.I would just start training see if that is for you.
Please don't buy a squat suit, bench shirt, or knee wraps, OP. That stuff is way too expensive for a sport you may not even stick with, not to mention, you can lift in raw divisions. A quality belt, wrist wraps, and some knee sleeves are a good recommendation, but not necessary.3 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Nodaysoff86 wrote: »Ok thanks everyone. Great info from all. What about eating? Im on the low side of calories now should i up that? Also what about supplements i only take a multivitamin right now.
Unlike body builders you can eat pretty much what ever you want. Pick a weight you are comfortable lifting in. That is your weight classes. Stay with in 5 to 10lbs of that. Here is what will happen. You will weigh in before the meet. Sometimes it's the night before. Sometimes it's that morning. You can drop 5 lbs in water weight. As for supplements creatine will help you lift heavy. You will need a good wide 10mm belt a squat suit bench shirt knee wraps some people get lifting shoes. Like everyone is saying I would go check our a meet see how you like it. Ask all kinds of questions there. Everyone will be glad to help you. Check out all the different Federations see which one you like the best and which one has meets close.I would just start training see if that is for you.
Please don't buy a squat suit, bench shirt, or knee wraps, OP. That stuff is way too expensive for a sport you may not even stick with, not to mention, you can lift in raw divisions. A quality belt, wrist wraps, and some knee sleeves are a good recommendation, but not necessary.
You said it far nicer than I was about to. I'd say about 75% of brand new lifters I see come in with chucks and a singlet.3 -
You don't need supplements. Just sleep, food, and consistency. And a little less sexism. Quite uncalled for considering your very vague title. Also, no way in hell you're 18%. If you think you're too heavy. Cut. If you feel like you could gain more weight. Bulk. Your calories are dependent on which route you choose. It's not that difficult man.3
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You don't need supplements. Just sleep, food, and consistency. And a little less sexism. Quite uncalled for considering your very vague title. Also, no way in hell you're 18%. If you think you're too heavy. Cut. If you feel like you could gain more weight. Bulk. Your calories are dependent on which route you choose. It's not that difficult man.
Take it easy tough guy0 -
The most important decision you will make in the gym is: natty or not.1
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trigden1991 wrote: »The most important decision you will make in the gym is: natty or not.
I thought it was spot or not.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »The most important decision you will make in the gym is: natty or not.
I thought it was spot or not.
Hmmm, I thought it was high bar or low bar squats
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piperdown44 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »The most important decision you will make in the gym is: natty or not.
I thought it was spot or not.
Hmmm, I thought it was high bar or low bar squats
We don't go there! 0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »The most important decision you will make in the gym is: natty or not.
I thought it was spot or not.
Hmmm, I thought it was high bar or low bar squats
We don't go there!
Because the answer is always low bar2 -
_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »The most important decision you will make in the gym is: natty or not.
I thought it was spot or not.
Hmmm, I thought it was high bar or low bar squats
We don't go there!
Because the answer is always low bar
And you went there.
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Its actually Sumo or Conventional...1
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »Nodaysoff86 wrote: »Ok thanks everyone. Great info from all. What about eating? Im on the low side of calories now should i up that? Also what about supplements i only take a multivitamin right now.
Unlike body builders you can eat pretty much what ever you want. Pick a weight you are comfortable lifting in. That is your weight classes. Stay with in 5 to 10lbs of that. Here is what will happen. You will weigh in before the meet. Sometimes it's the night before. Sometimes it's that morning. You can drop 5 lbs in water weight. As for supplements creatine will help you lift heavy. You will need a good wide 10mm belt a squat suit bench shirt knee wraps some people get lifting shoes. Like everyone is saying I would go check our a meet see how you like it. Ask all kinds of questions there. Everyone will be glad to help you. Check out all the different Federations see which one you like the best and which one has meets close.I would just start training see if that is for you.
Please don't buy a squat suit, bench shirt, or knee wraps, OP. That stuff is way too expensive for a sport you may not even stick with, not to mention, you can lift in raw divisions. A quality belt, wrist wraps, and some knee sleeves are a good recommendation, but not necessary.
Yea you are right and I put this stuff in because it is stuff you should know about. I haven't competed in over 20 years now. I did compete for 10 years and set several state squat records in different weight classes. I lifted with NASA Federation. It is an all natural Federation and Rich will test you if he thinks you are on steroids. They also have a non supported class. This would be my recommendation.0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »Its actually Sumo or Conventional...
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LolBroScience wrote: »Its actually Sumo or Conventional...
Jefferson
That's like the red headed step child3 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Oh, forgot my favourite PL site: http://www.powerliftingtowin.com/ it has a lot of information that you should find very helpful.
^ This site is underrated IMO. TONS of great info here ^2 -
When you first start out in powerlifting I would make the following very generalized statements:
1) Typically I wouldn't worry about making it into a specific weight class for your first meet and maybe even your first season (after the first meet I think it really depends on the person).
2) For the majority of people I think it's best to let the body composition/body weight goals exist independently of the weight class divisions. For example if someone is overweight then they probably are (or probably should) be focused on reducing their weight for health reasons. And so while I wouldn't want them to cut to make weight, I'd want them to cut because it's the right goal to have given their body composition.
And so it's still fine to diet during contest prep, just don't do it for purposes of an arbitrary weight cut off.2 -
butterbuns123 wrote: »Just go binge watch Chad Wesley Smith, max aita, Mark bell, silent mike, massthetics, and Alan thrall.
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