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  • itsbasschick
    itsbasschick Posts: 1,584 Member
    i'm a 5' 3.5" female, and i lose weight with the calories you said you're eating. i do resistance training and walk for exercise, less than you. unless you're under 5' (and maybe even then) with all your exercise you'd be losing insanely fast unless you have a thyroid issue or you're mistaken about the number of calories you're eating. or unless you have some pretty mega cheat days/meals.

    so the big questions -

    do you actually weigh (not measure) and accurately log your food (which means finding an accurate listing for EVERYTHING you eat in the database)?

    have you had your thyroid checked recently?
  • Evamutt
    Evamutt Posts: 2,689 Member
    I do water aerobics
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Off topic, my daughter used to show her Afghan hound, now sadly passed away. What breed do you show?
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Consider if one of your animals was limping. Would you insist it push it through, or would you work on rehabilitation first?

    The same analogy applies to losing weight. To get a show dog get to ideal shape, you'd control the diet. A little romping around wouldn't hurt.

    When it comes to exercise, make sure you are having fun.
  • Evamutt
    Evamutt Posts: 2,689 Member
    I had to step away quick. I can't do a whole lot either. I do 20min on treadmill or bike, 2 sets of ten on machines (3 of them) & go swim. I love to swim. easy on joints. After that i feel like I did a real work out, lol, but it works for me
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    Off topic, my daughter used to show her Afghan hound, now sadly passed away. What breed do you show?

    Borzoi :)

    I ordered new shoes last night, and have taken it easy, worked out with the PT yesterday, but am forgoing today as I'm sick ;P Will rest this weekend and try again next week.

  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »

    When it comes to exercise, make sure you are having fun.

    That's the thing, I was having fun LOL
  • tennileb
    tennileb Posts: 265 Member
    I have ongoing issues with plantar fasciitis and a heel spur, I get good relief from physio therapy as well as the use of a sock similar to the The Strassburg Sock, it helps anytime I know I have over done it and will pay in the morning. I roll my foot over a frozen water bottle and use the sock at night, makes in managable.
  • annette_15
    annette_15 Posts: 1,657 Member
    Maybe just try some lower intensity cardio if you wanna do extra, go for a long walk, the elliptical or bike. That wont be too taxing on the body if you just wanna burn some extra calories
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    annette_15 wrote: »
    Maybe just try some lower intensity cardio if you wanna do extra, go for a long walk, the elliptical or bike. That wont be too taxing on the body if you just wanna burn some extra calories

    This time of year, walking is out of the question, and I just find the elliptical and bike BORING :P Going to go back on Monday and just not do the cardio, and see what happens.
  • Zinka61
    Zinka61 Posts: 563 Member
    I think adjusting your diet will do more to help you lose weight than doing more and more extreme exercise. Older bodies can't always tolerate heavy exercise, but eating less will eventually work. I agree that you should at least measure everything you eat and log without fail. Try 1200 to 1400 calories a day and see what that does for you.

    I have bone spurs in my two big toes and have had some success with physical therapy. There are ways to stretch the joint and exercises that can limber them up a bit. Hot soaks can help some, too. But some days, walking is awfully painful for me, and my foot pain keeps me from walking/running as much as the rest of my body could tolerate. Cushioned shoes like Brooks Launch were my favorites for the last couple of years, but I'm finding the newer version of that shoe is a little heavier, and I'm needing a larger sized shoe to keep my toes comfortable. I'm looking for a new shoe, but Sketchers have not worked for me in the past.

    I typically walk 4-6 miles a day, and over the summer I did strength training, which I hope to get back to soon. As long as I stick to my calorie deficit, I lose whether or not I exercise. I am mindful of my toe joints and avoid too much running out of fear my knees will pay the price. I don't think getting stronger will do me much good if I wreck my joints, so I go for moderation.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    mielikkibz wrote: »
    Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
    It sounds to me like you are simply pushing too hard. Pushing to the point of injury or pain is counterproductive. Weight loss is about calories.

    yes, I understand that, but need muscle to replace some of this fat, in order to make myself healthier. I would like to get off the BP meds and hopefully lesson the asthma as well as strengthen my heart. You can lose weight and still not be healthy :p

    you dont replace fat with muscle. you can build muscle(in maintenance and in a surplus) but in a deficit its harder to do than if you were in a surplus.you have muscle under your fat,you can become stronger, but it doesnt always mean you are building muscle,you can only lose so much fat at a time as well. weight loss shouldnt be fast. so if you are expecting to lose more than 2 lbs a week(which is a healthy rate for someone with over 75lbs to lose) then you are setting yourself up for failure.weight not going down doesnt mean its muscle growth,it could be you are not in a deficit but eating in maintenance(hence eating more than you think),water retention masking loss,a plateau,etc.
  • Zinka61
    Zinka61 Posts: 563 Member
    edited November 2016
    Swimming or biking might be good exercises for you?
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    what is your current weight? goal weight (from the DR)? how long were you working on it before she put you on the medication to suppress appetite? were you tracking all your food intake then?

    re: boot camp - i know its fun, but the modifications are there for a reason - heel spurs/PF suck! I know almost immediately when I have done too much post workout (and i'll regret it the next day)

    you could try something like swimming or aquajogging for less impact
  • shellyld2016
    shellyld2016 Posts: 288 Member
    I also have plantar fasciitis and bone spurs. I found out I had the problems after pushing myself too hard running. Doctor said running just isn't a great thing for me to be doing. Once it flairs up it can take awhile for the pain to go. You simply need to make the most of it. Low impact for me now. I still use my treadmill as I love it, but I have to alternate between that, the rowing machine, and my elliptical. Pilates is a great option in addition to the weights along with yoga. You would be surprised at how effective they can be! If you have a place to swim that's great too. You can still do it, I am, you just have to adapt.
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    yeah - I "rested" like the doc wanted me to from a PF flare up...after 3 weeks of no resting, I said no more! and found a massage therapist who did myofascial release on my feet/calves
  • hneagle1
    hneagle1 Posts: 16 Member
    First - you should be extremely proud of your accomplishments thus far! Any progress is great progress! Mentally, I would start recognizing what you have succeeded in. This will help you propel yourself to bigger goals. Second, don't push yourself to the point of tears. Little by little it will get better. Yes, you should push yourself to your goals. But, I think overwork can be quite counterproductive. I was very guilty of this a year ago and was considered your typical "yo-yo dieter." That did not work and I felt terrible about myself. As soon as I focused on eating real foods and combined a exercise program I loved, the results slowly showed up.

    Also, like many have said already in the thread -- diet is truly key. I almost say it is closer to 90% of the weight loss journey. I view exercise as more of an additional burn. The body is created in the kitchen. With that being said, I have found that meal prep does wonders!!! I find that if I do a consistent meal prep routine and only keep my meal prep foods in the kitchen I stick to the diet. This will help if there are a few slip ups during the week.

    I would also get someone to check your shoes. A running store, etc. to make sure you have the right gear for the work you are doing in the gym. Hope that helps! Hang in there, you will be so successful!

  • gentlygently
    gentlygently Posts: 752 Member
    Not sure if you are checking in on responses any more - but it would be good to know how you ate getting on now. You were given a lot of good advice.

    Just a thought but - you have dogs. Why not also set dog walking goals....good for weight loss, good cardio (if you ate brisk or hills come into it) and good for the mind. A gentle way of helping you reach your goals...as long as you have the right shoes!
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    edited November 2016
    Maybe it's been mentioned, but can your doctor refer you to a podiatrist for footwear advice? Maybe some orthotics are needed.

    Normally I suggest a place like Roadrunner for their ability to analyze feet and stride, but the bone spurs make me think a doc might be more helpful.

    Also ... socks! When I was running, and now for hiking, I wear socks with lots of padding at the ball of the foot and the heel. They're so padded, I go up a half shoe size. :smiley:
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    edited December 2016
    gentlygently wrote: »
    Not sure if you are checking in on responses any more - but it would be good to know how you ate getting on now. You were given a lot of good advice.

    Just a thought but - you have dogs. Why not also set dog walking goals....good for weight loss, good cardio (if you ate brisk or hills come into it) and good for the mind. A gentle way of helping you reach your goals...as long as you have the right shoes!

    I used a foam roller on my foot wed, and it felt much better, so bought one of my own. New shoes came in and hoping that helps

    Dog walking is not possible right now, although I do enjoy long walks with the four legged kids. I'm at work at 7, and home when it's dark, and live out in the country. SO right now, gym time is the only workout I get.

    Did use a co workers foam roller and it helped immensely, so bought one of my own. And my new shoes came in.
    I did a dog event thanksgiving weekend and walked almost 6 miles, foot was sore, but it is not aching.

    Thanks guys, just frustrated when I find something i enjoy, that I can't do cuz of my body :p
    cerise_noir wrote: »
    trigden1991 wrote: »
    hope516 wrote: »
    80% food, 20% exercise.

    Nope! It's 100% calorie deficit. One does not need to do any exercise or movement and can still lose weight.

    Obviously if you can exercise, it's a bonus.

    Agreed with this right here. I have lost weight without exercise (after I messed up my foot running).

    Calorie deficit was not working, I hit a plateau and it was going nowhere. And I want to lose 30 lbs before February where I hope to show one of my dogs at Westminster. TO do so, need to be in better shape :) I am down 10 lbs from Dr visit 5 weeks ago, so am on my way to that goal.





  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    if you open up your diary so people can take a look, there may be some that can provide advice
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    mielikkibz wrote: »
    gentlygently wrote: »
    Not sure if you are checking in on responses any more - but it would be good to know how you ate getting on now. You were given a lot of good advice.

    Just a thought but - you have dogs. Why not also set dog walking goals....good for weight loss, good cardio (if you ate brisk or hills come into it) and good for the mind. A gentle way of helping you reach your goals...as long as you have the right shoes!

    I used a foam roller on my foot wed, and it felt much better, so bought one of my own. New shoes came in and hoping that helps

    Dog walking is not possible right now, although I do enjoy long walks with the four legged kids. I'm at work at 7, and home when it's dark, and live out in the country. SO right now, gym time is the only workout I get.

    Did use a co workers foam roller and it helped immensely, so bought one of my own. And my new shoes came in.
    I did a dog event thanksgiving weekend and walked almost 6 miles, foot was sore, but it is not aching.

    Thanks guys, just frustrated when I find something i enjoy, that I can't do cuz of my body :p
    cerise_noir wrote: »
    trigden1991 wrote: »
    hope516 wrote: »
    80% food, 20% exercise.

    Nope! It's 100% calorie deficit. One does not need to do any exercise or movement and can still lose weight.

    Obviously if you can exercise, it's a bonus.

    Agreed with this right here. I have lost weight without exercise (after I messed up my foot running).

    Calorie deficit was not working, I hit a plateau and it was going nowhere. And I want to lose 30 lbs before February where I hope to show one of my dogs at Westminster. TO do so, need to be in better shape :) I am down 10 lbs from Dr visit 5 weeks ago, so am on my way to that goal.





    if you have very little to lose weight loss will be slow and 30 lbs in less than 3 months may be too aggressive of a goal unless you are severely obese and just starting out
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
    if you have very little to lose weight loss will be slow and 30 lbs in less than 3 months may be too aggressive of a goal unless you are severely obese and just starting out

    I have more than enough to lose, I am at 22 lbs since the beginning of hte year, 12 of the 30 down.


  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    mielikkibz wrote: »
    CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
    if you have very little to lose weight loss will be slow and 30 lbs in less than 3 months may be too aggressive of a goal unless you are severely obese and just starting out

    I have more than enough to lose, I am at 22 lbs since the beginning of hte year, 12 of the 30 down.


    ok Im confused. you said you are at 22 lbs and have lost 12 of 30? so do you only have 30 lbs to lose? but 30lbs in 3 months is still a lot of weight to lose at a time.
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    Well, broke down and went to the dr, plantar fascitis is the culprit. But now I have a game plan
    CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
    mielikkibz wrote: »
    CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
    if you have very little to lose weight loss will be slow and 30 lbs in less than 3 months may be too aggressive of a goal unless you are severely obese and just starting out

    I have more than enough to lose, I am at 22 lbs since the beginning of hte year, 12 of the 30 down.

    ok Im confused. you said you are at 22 lbs and have lost 12 of 30? so do you only have 30 lbs to lose? but 30lbs in 3 months is still a lot of weight to lose at a time.

    I'm down 22 for the year, wanted to lose a total of 30 (would've been 40 total), by next month. Alas depression and my foot has kept me from that goal. It's ok, the dress fits and that makes me happy.

  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    Well, official diagnosis was plantar fasciatis. Got exercises and a steroid shot and was able to show my dog at Wesmtinster, and will work on keeping it from coming back.

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