What's up with kids these days?
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My friend is a teacher. In one of the more memorable workshops they attended, a speaker that had worked in the classrooms for decades mentioned this: The question parents ask has shifted from "What can my kids do to bring up their grade" to "What can you do to improve my kid's grade"1
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CooCooPuff wrote: »My friend is a teacher. In one of the more memorable workshops they attended, a speaker that had worked in the classrooms for decades mentioned this: The question parents ask has shifted from "What can my kids do to bring up their grade" to "What can you do to improve my kid's grade"
That's more an issue with the adults not children. So the real question is what is up with the child bearing age adults and their love of helicoptering.3 -
One word for me: Parenting3
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Yeah, and what's this thing I hear about Snapchat anyway?0
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It's the Parents.1
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Kids are just a reflection of their environment. The biggest environment is the one at home.
As a daily yard duty at my DD's school, I deal with kids who have good manner, bad manners, polite, rude, hardworking, entitled and respectful, disrespectful. Most kids are pretty good, but the handful that are bad, make sure they let you know it.
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Kids are just a reflection of their environment. The biggest environment is the one at home.
As a daily yard duty at my DD's school, I deal with kids who have good manner, bad manners, polite, rude, hardworking, entitled and respectful, disrespectful. Most kids are pretty good, but the handful that are bad, make sure they let you know it.
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I agree. I was an elementary teacher and can attest to this.0 -
Spoiler alert: Joyless old people will always be blithely bitter about (and secretly just jealous of) younger generations, and the secret to not becoming a cane-shaking husk is to remember that every single generation in human history has always complained about "the youth" and probably always will.
Peter the Hermit, 11th Century
“The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no respect for their parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone know everything and what passes for wisdom in us foolishness in them. As for the girls, they are foolish and immodest and unwomanly in speech, behavior, and dress.”
Seneca, 1st Century AD
“Our young men have grown slothful. There is not a single honorable occupation for which they will toil night and day. They sing and dance and grow effeminate and curl their hair and learn womanish tricks of speech; they are as languid as women and deck themselves out with unbecoming ornaments. Without strength, without energy, they add nothing during life to the gifts with which they were born — then they complain of their lot.”
Plato, 5th century BC
“Our youth have an insatiable desire for wealth; they have bad manners and atrocious customs regarding dressing and their hair and what garments or shoes they wear.”
Hesiod, 8th Century BC
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint.”
Assyrian Clay Tablet, 2800 BC
“Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.”
In conclusion, don't give in to the pattern and break the cycle. Remember all of the complaints and untruths your elders said about you and your peers when you were young and why you thought they were uncharitable. Every generation is shaped by different things and has different priorities, values and beliefs, and you're buried in your ignorance if you think your way of life and seeing things is the only right way. I try to remind myself of this as I'm getting older and older.
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I think I'm a kid compared to all y'all. Come at me bros1
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Lol come at me bros.1
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I kinda feel sorry for the youngings. It's harder and less fun growing up and becoming adults these days - can't roam freely much, very little privacy, the textbooks are 10 times bigger and less useful, and not too many decent paying jobs for their parents. I live in the U.S., not North Korea, in case if anyone was wondering.4
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I wonder what the textbooks say these days. I'm pretty sure history ended with FDR for me0
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I think ever since is too much controversy as faras hhistory goes0
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I kinda feel sorry for the youngings. It's harder and less fun growing up and becoming adults these days - can't roam freely much, very little privacy, the textbooks are 10 times bigger and less useful, and not too many decent paying jobs for their parents. I live in the U.S., not North Korea, in case if anyone was wondering.
Though iirc the crime statistics are the same or lower than when I was a kid so there isn't a reason for (most) kids to roam freely. I also find there are more job opportunities now than when my parents were young adults especially for women. When my mom graduated from high school the majority of females in her class became either a stay at home mom, nurse, teacher or secretary. I'm not young but I'm not ancient (I'm 40)
Eta I'm not American
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Get off my lawn! *shakes cane*7
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singingflutelady wrote: »I kinda feel sorry for the youngings. It's harder and less fun growing up and becoming adults these days - can't roam freely much, very little privacy, the textbooks are 10 times bigger and less useful, and not too many decent paying jobs for their parents. I live in the U.S., not North Korea, in case if anyone was wondering.
Though iirc the crime statistics are the same or lower than when I was a kid so there isn't a reason for (most) kids to roam freely. I also find there are more job opportunities now than when my parents were young adults especially for women. When my mom graduated from high school the majority of females in her class became either a stay at home mom, nurse, teacher or secretary. I'm not young but I'm not ancient (I'm 40)
Eta I'm not American
I'm not Canadian either but every other day we have a neighbourhood boy ride over on his scooter and knock on our door and ask if my son can come out to play. We walk to school, my son comes home for lunch. There are always herds of kids in the playground at the school, our older neighbour boys are always out on their scooters with friends.
Kids are encouraged to remain kids in my neighbourhood...of course I also usually leave a door unlocked, there are lots of stay at home moms and all the neighbours know each others' business so I guess I just live in a throw back to 1950s neighbourhood.1 -
*kitten* if I know, but that's what adults used to say about us when we were growing up right?0
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Sometimes it's the parents, though society has taken over and the parents can't discipline anymore. Everything is considered abuse.Cutaway_Collar wrote: »@43501
Thank you. That was fantastic. That is exactly my thought as well. I was actually gonna quote the who's my generation but you did way better.
Ya see - People believe anything that's on the internet. To prove @43501 theories incorrect: You said "In conclusion, don't give in to the pattern and break the cycle. Remember all of the complaints and untruths your elders said about you and your peers when you were young and why you thought they were uncharitable."
You see A43501 - I grew up and realized that they were all correct, I and most people I knew were lazy, know it all punks. Around 25 years old, I took my Mom & Dad to lunch and apologized for the hell I put them through.
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Spoiler alert: Joyless old people will always be blithely bitter about (and secretly just jealous of) younger generations, and the secret to not becoming a cane-shaking husk is to remember that every single generation in human history has always complained about "the youth" and probably always will.
Peter the Hermit, 11th Century
“The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no respect for their parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone know everything and what passes for wisdom in us foolishness in them. As for the girls, they are foolish and immodest and unwomanly in speech, behavior, and dress.”
Seneca, 1st Century AD
“Our young men have grown slothful. There is not a single honorable occupation for which they will toil night and day. They sing and dance and grow effeminate and curl their hair and learn womanish tricks of speech; they are as languid as women and deck themselves out with unbecoming ornaments. Without strength, without energy, they add nothing during life to the gifts with which they were born — then they complain of their lot.”
Plato, 5th century BC
“Our youth have an insatiable desire for wealth; they have bad manners and atrocious customs regarding dressing and their hair and what garments or shoes they wear.”
Hesiod, 8th Century BC
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint.”
Assyrian Clay Tablet, 2800 BC
“Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.”
In conclusion, don't give in to the pattern and break the cycle. Remember all of the complaints and untruths your elders said about you and your peers when you were young and why you thought they were uncharitable. Every generation is shaped by different things and has different priorities, values and beliefs, and you're buried in your ignorance if you think your way of life and seeing things is the only right way. I try to remind myself of this as I'm getting older and older.
Respectfully, you forgot:
Walt Kowalski (C. Eastwood), 2008 AD [/b]
"Get Off My Lawn!"1 -
The main thing my parents complained about our youth was our hair and clothing. I grew up in the 70's and 80's and look back and could see why. But they never complained about mannerisms. One can still have UPDATED values and beliefs and STILL BE CORDIAL. There a lots of kids these days that aren't. And again, I get it from daily experience, not just from what I've heard.Spoiler alert: Joyless old people will always be blithely bitter about (and secretly just jealous of) younger generations, and the secret to not becoming a cane-shaking husk is to remember that every single generation in human history has always complained about "the youth" and probably always will.
Peter the Hermit, 11th Century
“The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no respect for their parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they alone know everything and what passes for wisdom in us foolishness in them. As for the girls, they are foolish and immodest and unwomanly in speech, behavior, and dress.”
Seneca, 1st Century AD
“Our young men have grown slothful. There is not a single honorable occupation for which they will toil night and day. They sing and dance and grow effeminate and curl their hair and learn womanish tricks of speech; they are as languid as women and deck themselves out with unbecoming ornaments. Without strength, without energy, they add nothing during life to the gifts with which they were born — then they complain of their lot.”
Plato, 5th century BC
“Our youth have an insatiable desire for wealth; they have bad manners and atrocious customs regarding dressing and their hair and what garments or shoes they wear.”
Hesiod, 8th Century BC
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint.”
Assyrian Clay Tablet, 2800 BC
“Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.”
In conclusion, don't give in to the pattern and break the cycle. Remember all of the complaints and untruths your elders said about you and your peers when you were young and why you thought they were uncharitable. Every generation is shaped by different things and has different priorities, values and beliefs, and you're buried in your ignorance if you think your way of life and seeing things is the only right way. I try to remind myself of this as I'm getting older and older.
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Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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I don't. Kids today don't know they aren't having fun. They have fun differently than when I was growing up. Mine was outdoor play, kids today like making videos and playing video games. Heck back when I was a kid, I'd have wanted what kids have today when it comes to electronics. And I bet my parents thought the same of my generation.I kinda feel sorry for the youngings. It's harder and less fun growing up and becoming adults these days - can't roam freely much, very little privacy, the textbooks are 10 times bigger and less useful, and not too many decent paying jobs for their parents. I live in the U.S., not North Korea, in case if anyone was wondering.
But still, kids can still have good manners and respect. Many today don't. That starts at home, not in the schools.
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PlaydohPants wrote: »If I had a dollar for every time someone over 40 complained about my generation I'd be able to afford a house in the economy they ruined.
It is history repeating itself. Our parents didn't ruin the economy.
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I don't. Kids today don't know they aren't having fun. They have fun differently than when I was growing up. Mine was outdoor play, kids today like making videos and playing video games. Heck back when I was a kid, I'd have wanted what kids have today when it comes to electronics. And I bet my parents thought the same of my generation.I kinda feel sorry for the youngings. It's harder and less fun growing up and becoming adults these days - can't roam freely much, very little privacy, the textbooks are 10 times bigger and less useful, and not too many decent paying jobs for their parents. I live in the U.S., not North Korea, in case if anyone was wondering.
But still, kids can still have good manners and respect. Many today don't. That starts at home, not in the schools.
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Agreed. Also as someone that works with kids and their parents everyday, so I see their interactions. Too many parents want to be hip, cool and their kids' friend rather than their disciplinary. Not all, but way too many parents are this way. These kids talk to me the way their parents allow them to talk to them. Rude, disrespectful and no manners at all. Guess what? The kids who have parents that are more of a disciplinary figure are always polite. I am in no way saying there isn't room for fun and joking around, nor that the polite kids don't have their snotty kid moments but the snotty moments are way more rare than the kids that aren't taught how to behave in public. I wasn't always respectful or mindful of my parents rules. I have since apologized to them for this but I never ever would have talked to strangers in public the way I have been talked to by some kids the past 10 years. The way the behave has nothing to do with their appearance, I believe everyone should be allowed to portray their personality. But they should also be kind and respectful.1 -
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littlemissbgiff wrote: »They have been raised to believe that they are all special. You show up at a game, you get a trophy. Didn't win? Of course you did, there are no losers. Didn't get a good grade? You just don't test well, therefor you get another chance but this time the timed portions are lifted. Want to be in the talent show? Good thing that in favor of not excluding anyone there are no auditions, everyone has talent. Fact is, very few are talented, special or extraordinarily smart. Parents cannot accept that their kids are average so they lower the bar for special so no one gets their feelings hurt. Then kids go out into the real world and don't know how to lose. Don't know how to earn what they want because they were taught that they are entitled to everything.
I was thinking these same things just last night. And was just complaining to a friend a few minutes ago about my daughter's basketball game shortly, they don't keep score as so no one feels like a Loser.
This also sounds like a day on the interwebz with some adults.0 -
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many children and their parents would benefit greatly from having the hand of knowledges and wisdom repeatedly, and with vigor, applied to the seat of learning.0
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My son does kick boxing (fighting & forms) football, Irish football, hurling and rugby - he know there are winners and losers in every game.
Sometimes the winner doesn't deserve the win, sometimes the loser doesn't deserve to lose, but that's the way it is and he'll congratulate the winner or show grace to the loser.
Giving every participant a medal in a talent show is ok, it's an acknowledgment for having the courage to get up and do something in frount of a crowd of people, it encourages further participation as children get older.
I agree - Not having a winner/loser in a talent competition or sport is a whole different kettle of fish ...2
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