GOOD FAT?

Danvman1980
Danvman1980 Posts: 27
in Food and Nutrition
Hi all

Quick question!! I have been looking around for a few days now and different sites say different things so i thought i would ask here if that is ok ?

I am just after any good true sites on what is the rite fats to be eating on a low carb high fat mod protein diet? Resson i ask is because i eat a lot of bacon i love love love bacon but going to try mix it up with other fatty stuff but want to know what is the rite fats to eat. Thanks guys
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  • Chokis
    Chokis Posts: 131
    Coconut oil, olive oil, grapeseed oil. Avocados, nuts, cheese, butter. Flaxseed meal.
    Fat found in fish, meat, chicken, pork. It's all good.
    Just don't eat the crap like margarine or Crisco stuff.

    Bacon is goooooodd! :-)
  • StacyReneO
    StacyReneO Posts: 317 Member
    Coconut oil, olive oil, grapeseed oil. Avocados, nuts, cheese, butter. Flaxseed meal.
    Fat found in fish, meat, chicken, pork. It's all good.
    Just don't eat the crap like margarine or Crisco stuff.

    Bacon is goooooodd! :-)

    All of this! I eat high-fat. Eggs are another great option. I eat bacon & eggs A LOT. I make pork ribs at least once a week. I also snack on unsweetened toasted coconut flakes.
  • Chokis
    Chokis Posts: 131
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,449 Member
    I have bacon every day. My fats are set at 45%.

    Only bad thing about bacon is the high salt. But having 2-4 slices a day isn't going to make much difference.

    I also eat eggs, cheese, avocado, and almonds every day.

    Just stay within your calories and it's all good (except trans fats - those are the only ones I avoid). Trans fats are in many processed baked goods.
  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes
  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    By pork rinds do you mean pork scratching? Hehe
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,449 Member
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes
    Here's the thing. S o m e people are going to tell you not to eat saturated fats. But if you are doing low carb, you need to eat fats....because ....uh...only one other choice - protein.

    The unsaturated fats (mostly the vegetable and tree fruit/nut sourced fats) help your lipid profile, but unless you have a genetic reason to avoid animal fats, then go for all of them...butter, bacon, duck fat, beef, eggs (the Whole Egg) etc.

    Saturated fat got a bad rap in the 80s. If you research the outcomes of the research, you'll find it was unwarranted.

  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes
    Here's the thing. S o m e people are going to tell you not to eat saturated fats. But if you are doing low carb, you need to eat fats....because ....uh...only one other choice - protein.

    The unsaturated fats (mostly the vegetable and tree fruit/nut sourced fats) help your lipid profile, but unless you have a genetic reason to avoid animal fats, then go for all of them...butter, bacon, duck fat, beef, eggs (the Whole Egg) etc.

    Saturated fat got a bad rap in the 80s. If you research the outcomes of the research, you'll find it was unwarranted.




    Thanks a lot dude I have been doing a lot of google reading since I started a few wks ago. Been following jimmy Moore so I know I need to eat lots of fat I've been playing around with the amounts of fat to protein trying to work out what's good for me. So all meat is ok. And strawberries I like eat with full cream that's fine is it?
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,449 Member
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes
    Here's the thing. S o m e people are going to tell you not to eat saturated fats. But if you are doing low carb, you need to eat fats....because ....uh...only one other choice - protein.

    The unsaturated fats (mostly the vegetable and tree fruit/nut sourced fats) help your lipid profile, but unless you have a genetic reason to avoid animal fats, then go for all of them...butter, bacon, duck fat, beef, eggs (the Whole Egg) etc.

    Saturated fat got a bad rap in the 80s. If you research the outcomes of the research, you'll find it was unwarranted.




    Thanks a lot dude I have been doing a lot of google reading since I started a few wks ago. Been following jimmy Moore so I know I need to eat lots of fat I've been playing around with the amounts of fat to protein trying to work out what's good for me. So all meat is ok. And strawberries I like eat with full cream that's fine is it?

    If weight loss is your goal, then all you have to worry about is calorie intake. Full cream is fine - and yummy. You have to find your own place in the world. Tune out all the voices that tell you "Don't eat this or that."

    Just do you. Stay within your calorie goal and enjoy your foods. All the foods.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    where are the evil fats?
  • pluckabee
    pluckabee Posts: 346 Member
    anything that isn't a trans fat or a weird vegetable oil
  • aquinoz
    aquinoz Posts: 182 Member
    there aren't any bad fats.
  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes
    Here's the thing. S o m e people are going to tell you not to eat saturated fats. But if you are doing low carb, you need to eat fats....because ....uh...only one other choice - protein.

    The unsaturated fats (mostly the vegetable and tree fruit/nut sourced fats) help your lipid profile, but unless you have a genetic reason to avoid animal fats, then go for all of them...butter, bacon, duck fat, beef, eggs (the Whole Egg) etc.

    Saturated fat got a bad rap in the 80s. If you research the outcomes of the research, you'll find it was unwarranted.




    Thanks a lot dude I have been doing a lot of google reading since I started a few wks ago. Been following jimmy Moore so I know I need to eat lots of fat I've been playing around with the amounts of fat to protein trying to work out what's good for me. So all meat is ok. And strawberries I like eat with full cream that's fine is it?

    If weight loss is your goal, then all you have to worry about is calorie intake. Full cream is fine - and yummy. You have to find your own place in the world. Tune out all the voices that tell you "Don't eat this or that."

    Just do you. Stay within your calorie goal and enjoy your foods. All the foods.

    Well i did try taking that out look on eating and it got me from 14 stone to 20 stone in 3 years. So it scares me to undo all my hard work and the past 3 months have been very hard work fighting my hunger and sweating in my gym.
  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    anything that isn't a trans fat or a weird vegetable oil

    thanks
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    where are the evil fats?

    The ones that steal my lunch money.

    I thought the bad fats were the iranian fats..no?
  • StacyReneO
    StacyReneO Posts: 317 Member
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)

    I LOVE pork rinds. I dip them in mustard :)
  • Danvman1980
    Danvman1980 Posts: 27
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)

    I LOVE pork rinds. I dip them in mustard :)

    What do you mean by pork rinds I'm not American I'm from the uk/Wales I think you must be talking about pork scratchings yes?
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,252 Member
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)

    I LOVE pork rinds. I dip them in mustard :)

    What do you mean by pork rinds I'm not American I'm from the uk/Wales I think you must be talking about pork scratchings yes?
    Yup. Not a Canadian thing either.
  • ngyoung
    ngyoung Posts: 311 Member
    Yes pork rind = pork scratching
  • Chadomaniac
    Chadomaniac Posts: 1,785 Member
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)

    I LOVE pork rinds. I dip them in mustard :)

    Never heard of this . Must be an American thing ;)
  • CookNLift
    CookNLift Posts: 3,660 Member
    Also, pork rinds, but not everybody likes them. I like having them as a snack. 0 carbs, tons of fat! :-)

    I LOVE pork rinds. I dip them in mustard :)

    Never heard of this . Must be an American thing ;)

    they're deep fried pork skin. i never had a taste for the store bought ones, but when I make it homemade, they're absolutely amazing.

    the_publican_pork_rinds.jpg
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Ah thanks guys I was just worried I had been eating the wrong stuff... So everything I've been eating is ok? My bacon is all fresh. Are fresh sausages ok does anyone know? Sorry I'm sort of new to all the low carb high fat been doing it a few wakes

    Processed meats such as bacon and sausage have a high association with disease. There is much debate about saturated fats, but the medical recommendation is to eat more unsaturated than saturated.

    Below are some articles on fat and meat consumption, if you are interested.

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats-and-cholesterol/
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-meat/MY01329
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/eating-meat/MY02417
    http://preventcancer.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=elements_red_processed_meat
    http://www.wcrf-uk.org/cancer_prevention/recommendations/meat_and_cancer.php
    http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/Truth-about-fats.shtml
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262
  • ilmb87
    ilmb87 Posts: 216 Member
    BUMP
  • Lmns218
    Lmns218 Posts: 155
    I'm scared to eat that way because I have high cholesterol, but the traditional low fat diet is just not getting the results I want!!!! I think I am going to try and see a dietician.
  • PrimalGirl
    PrimalGirl Posts: 148 Member
    Hi

    I heartily recommend reading www.marksdailyapple.com for all your low-carb, high-fat needs.

    Tons of recipes, advice on diet and fitness, and he regularly debunks the half-assed, so-called research that scares the hell out of people and makes them believe fat is the Devil.

    Best of luck!
  • PrimalGirl
    PrimalGirl Posts: 148 Member
    I'm scared to eat that way because I have high cholesterol, but the traditional low fat diet is just not getting the results I want!!!! I think I am going to try and see a dietician.
    A high-fat diet has been proven to lower cholesterol - you have to make sure it's the right kind of fat and cut out carbs/processed foods/refined sugars.

    Also, don't forget our bodies actually MAKE cholesterol (both 'good' and 'bad'). They wouldn't do that if there wasn't a need for it.

    A lot of these 'everybody knows ... is bad for you' myths have come from bad science or one study that has never been correlated, but somehow they've got into the media and have become ingrained in how we live our lives.
  • bacitracin
    bacitracin Posts: 921 Member
    http://josepharcita.blogspot.com/2011/03/guide-to-ketosis.html?m=1#33MM
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/1511-reddit-keto
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/1160-keto
    http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
    http://www.vivalowcarb.com/
    http://nuclearfuzzgrunge.com/tlcm/
    http://www.gnolls.org/1141/eat-like-a-predator-not-like-prey-paleo-in-six-easy-steps-a-motivational-guide/
    http://www.contraros.com/nutritional-ketosis/ketogenic-food-list/
    http://cavemanketo.com/
    http://reddit.com/r/theketodiet

    Coconut oil is great for ketosis, but the main thing you want to look for is is a good Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio. For that, you probably want grass-fed beef. Bacon is a wonderful ratio of protein to fat to carbs, but the types of fat are not preferable. Bacon is better for you than a donut, but not as good for you as grass-fed beef liver. Salmon has a not-awesome protein to fat ratio, but it's extremely high in O3 fat to O6 fat. Salmon fried up in Kerrygold butter is like, a perfect Keto meal. Throw in some boiled broccoli and cauliflower with moar Kerrygold on it and you're golden.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    there aren't any bad fats.

    Not quite true. Trans and partially hydrogenated fats are awful for you, and many vegetable and seed oils aren't good for you either (not only do they have insanely high amounts of Omega-6 compared to Omega-3, but polyunsaturated fatty acids in general, which veggie and seed oils consist primarily of, oxidize easily with heat, causing free radicals that have been known to wreck havoc on the body - it's why your Omega-3 supplements should be stored in the fridge and have a short shelf life).
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I'm scared to eat that way because I have high cholesterol, but the traditional low fat diet is just not getting the results I want!!!! I think I am going to try and see a dietician.

    You don't need a low fat diet, you just need to eat the right types of fat. Unsaturated fats lower your LDL (sometimes referred to as bad cholesterol because it can clog arteries) and raise your HDL (referred to as good fat because it cleans out the clogs in arteries).

    Get most of your fats from plants - olive oil, nuts, nut butters, avocado, seeds, etc.

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